Rate difference for platonic dates?

[Mark450]

Is there a rate difference for an escort's time if the date is simply dinner out verses a more intimate experience? I am in no way implying that a person's time is not equally important in either situation. Thanks

[adriano46]

Mark450 - you may want to do a search here as this topic has come up often.

 

What I know from my own experience as a client is that some of the better (and more considerate) escorts out there will give you a different price for multiple hours when there is dinner/theatre/some other activity involved that definately does NOT include sex. I found it always best to be up front on what your plans are, and what you would like to do.

 

Often, I may hire a guy for 2 hours (rarely, if ever, hire for an hour), and then, if we hit it off and he does not seem rushed, I may ask him if he would like to have dinner (depending on the hour). Many say "yes" (after all they have been working hard for 2 hours and just showered and cleaned up and probably are hungry too). So since I have to eat anyway, I invite them along (many refuse anything more beside my picking up the bill, but I definately offer them something extra for the time sitting across from me in the restaurant -- consider it payment for hiring "eye candy".

 

I also think of the song from CHICAGO: "You be good to Momma, and Momma will be good to you!"

[Mark450]

Thanks Adrian. I tried the search but came up empty. I was probably trying the wrong terms.

[adriano46]

Hey Mark, I should have helped there -- the topic comes up often but not in one particular thread; rather as chats go here, it comes up when speaking of tipping, overnights, extended visits etc..

 

Here are just a few:

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?77191-Haggling-On-A-Price&highlight=Escort+fees

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?55889-NOW-ON-RENTBOY-250-180-200&highlight=Escort+fees

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?75049-Escort-Fees-Going-Up&highlight=Escort+fees

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?72081-A-Regular-Lowers-His-Rate&highlight=Escort+fees

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?72677-NYC-Market-Pricing&highlight=Escort+fees

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?70971-Since-when-did-naming-a-price-become-popular&highlight=Escort+fees

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?70204-Clients-and-friends&highlight=Escort+fees

 

And these are only a few - it is a sort of obsession here with many, but hey, clients are people who pay, and so we discuss the ins and outs of "paying" a lot.

[Juan Vancouver]

I am a professional companion.

 

Here's another point of view:

 

My rates are exclusively for the time I spend with my client. I do not charge, negotiate, consider, or promise any sort of sexual activity, bodily fluid or number of orgasms. There are no exceptions to this. I am a professional in the field of companionship, therefore I charge for my company. I do offer discounts for extended periods, but never take in consideration what we will be doing in that time.

 

Once I am spending time with my client, we can decide, as two adults who spend time with each other, what is it that we want to spend our time doing. My rate is payment for my focus, my preparation, the work that I put in my body and my mind, the time I put in my grooming and the time I have spent in my life pursuing whatever interests that make me a better companion. My rates are not to remunerate me for doing reverse cowgirl, missionary or deepthroating.

 

My paid time with my client makes him the center of my full attention, and if I am treated with respect and consideration, then I want to utilize all that focus in making my client's experience an unforgettable one.

 

To me, spending time with my client talking about our mutual childhoods over dinner is every bit as exciting and pleasurable as having the chance to help him realize his anal sex fantasies. To me, sitting on a balcony in silence, holding hands overlooking a gorgeous medieval city is every bit as exciting as doing elaborate Japanese rope bondage. All these activities demand an ability for focus, for compassion, empathy, intelligence, sensitivity, tact, physical health and surrender. All these activities need me to be capable of understanding my client's needs even when he is not entirely aware of them.

 

I often cringe at the suggestion that since there is not going to be sex then it is obvious that the pay will be less. That only suggests that we believe that the sex with our clients is so abhorrent that we need a lot of money to compensate, but going for a free dinner, that's fun!

 

Lastly, whenever a client asks me out for dinner after a long session "just as friends", I always decline politely. People are often surprised ("You have to eat, anyway!"), but I believe this is very important in order to protect my client's emotional wellness. After such an intimate time together, our emotional boundaries tend to blur, and it is up to me to make sure that the boundaries are always clear to avoid sending the wrong message. Since of my main goals is to harness my client's wellness, I must do whatever I have in my power so that my interaction with my client is within healthy and respectful parameters.

 

Be it eye candy, arm candy, dick candy, ass candy or brain candy... my profession involves all of these. I am perfectly aware that there are many escorts who disagree with this, and they have my full respect. This is just the way that works well for me.

[KMEM]

I once asked an escort in FL, who attracted me mainly by what he wrote rather than how he "looked" ( he looked OK also), how much he would charge me to have dinner + conversation? He replied $100, BUT if we ended up back in my hotel room it would be at "regular" rates. I thought his answer and attitude and demeanor perfectly OK for the situation. Unfortunately, we did not meet, which was the fault of my schedule, not his.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[12is12]

Juan, I reject your premise:

"I often cringe at the suggestion that since there is not going to be sex then it is obvious that the pay will be less. That only suggests that we believe that the sex with our clients is so abhorrent that we need a lot of money to compensate, but going for a free dinner, that's fun!"

 

If I'll ask a person on the street if he/she's willing to sit and eat and converse with me for $200, most would say yes (after making sure I was sane); if I'll ask him/her to have sex with me, most would say no. It has nothing to do with "abhorrence", and everythign to do with intimacy/shyness/social mores. Having sex is rightly considered more special than having a conversation.

Which isn't to say I think that escorts should charge less. I was just taken back by the "abhorrence" claim...

[Gar1eth]

'I often cringe at the suggestion that since there is not going to be sex then it is obvious that the pay will be less. That only suggests that we believe that the sex with our clients is so abhorrent that we need a lot of money to compensate, but going for a free dinner, that's fun!'

 

In my case actually this is unfortunately the truth.

 

Gman

[doitb4ugo]

'I often cringe at the suggestion that since there is not going to be sex then it is obvious that the pay will be less. That only suggests that we believe that the sex with our clients is so abhorrent that we need a lot of money to compensate, but going for a free dinner, that's fun!'

 

In my case actually this is unfortunately the truth.

 

Gman

 

That is true for me also, Gman but none of the escorts I hire raise their rates when I walk through the door....Thank goodness.

[adriano46]

Many of us who are clients (and maybe should get something like FFM for hiring ;-)) ) are definately not mature ad models with 32" waists and amazing physiques. But many of us also have met and enjoyed some really top class working guys who go above and beyond in terms of what they deliver to us: the sex is great, but the overall experience (and those who can provide what comes close to the BFE) is supurb too.

 

In my response to the initial question, I was not implying that once we move out of the bed, rates should drop. (Didn't we tear this apart recently with a certain escort who decided he would no longer offer sex, but just companionship, and we went all over the place discussing pricing???)

 

Rather I was relating what I have found "in my experience" (with the guys who I hire) that many of them offer a varying package and are practical enough and business savvy enough to have rates to cover all circumstances. I appreciate such a man, and will go back for more. On the other end, the guy who wants a non-negotiable $200+ an hour for 5 hours ($1000) where we are in bed for maybe 2 and at the theatre and dinner (add in the cost of tickets and the 2 meals)... well to me he is making it very clear he is after my wallet and I am simply his ATM. I may in the moment date him, but I assure you, it will never happen twice.

 

I agree with much that Juan said about the work a guy puts into a date that goes way above and beyond the sex part, and I understand it completely, being a listener, being engaged, being patient, being kind, being "present" and not have eyes wandering - it is not at all easy, and should never be undervalued or dismissed.

 

But the original post was for something that specifically stated was a platonic date, and that did not include sex. So whether or not a dinner conversation with a guy you hire is worth say $200+ an hour, I don't know but I do know, I would never pay that amount of money.

[MsGuy]

OK, this is off topic, but I gotta ask:

 

Juan, what is a "reverse cowgirl"?

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never mind I googled it.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Reverse-amazon.jpg/180px-Reverse-amazon.jpg

[+ glutes]

What should be paid if you hire a escort for a 'intimate' date, and they are only platonic? (they don't deliver)

[leigh.bess.toad]

In my case actually this is unfortunately the truth.

Gman

 

That is true for me also, Gman but none of the escorts I hire raise their rates when I walk through the door....Thank goodness.

 

I'm not buying that load of crap from either of you.

[Guest greatness]

oh my what's going on with this mistrust from our southern gentleman.. You should always give the benefit of the doubt~~~ lol Hugs~~

 

I'm not buying that load of crap from either of you.

[leigh.bess.toad]

oh my what's going on with this mistrust from our southern gentleman.. You should always give the benefit of the doubt~~~ lol Hugs~~

 

Not when they denigrate themselves. They get no quarter from me when these fine gentlemen, both of whom I consider friends, put themselves down like that. Uh-uh. Ain't happening.

[Guest greatness]

Oh my Lee you are so sweet and cute (no offense) Hugs~~~

 

Not when they denigrate themselves. They get no quarter from me when these fine gentlemen, both of whom I consider friends, put themselves down like that. Uh-uh. Ain't happening.

[Epigonos]

My problem with the basic concept of this thread is why would I want to hire an escort for a purely platonic afternoon or evening? If, for example, I am looking for a lunch or dinner companion and then a platonic afternoon or evening with that person afterwards I have family and longtime friends with whom I can do that. I have never hired an escort for one hour. I always hire them for lunch or dinner and then a couple of hours of play time. I follow this pattern even with escorts I know well. I enjoy the meal conversation and I enjoy the play time after. I’m afraid I just don’t understand why I would want to spend money to hire a companion simply to share platonic time with me. What is the point?????

[Guy Fawkes]

Menus can be bad!

 

Menus tend to get people into trouble.

As it says on the top of each review page: "We assume all rates are for time only."

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1006/dinner-menu-for-cats-human-dinner-demotivational-poster-1275938622.jpg

[doitb4ugo]

Very Funny Daddy. That looks like the kind of sex I prefer.....How do you get that without getting eaten. LOL

[leigh.bess.toad]

Very Funny Daddy. That looks like the kind of sex I prefer.....How do you get that without getting eaten. LOL

 

I thought you would want to be eaten.

 

Oh you mean eaten alive. Sorry. My bad ...

[Guy Fawkes]

"Well, dude, sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you."

As it says on the top of each review page: "We assume all rates are for time only."

 

http://eatthiscity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Gay_Bear_Kiss_by_devikskey.jpg

 

Very Funny Daddy. That looks like the kind of sex I prefer.....How do you get that without getting eaten. LOL

 

Help! Somebody save me! I'm trapped inside a pun that's wrapped in a bun!

[leigh.bess.toad]

shouldn't that be in the gallery thread? just wondering.

[Guy Fawkes]

What you mean my hour is up? I have about 15 minutes left!

 

http://www.touchstone-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/clockwatching.jpg

[Mark450]

My problem with the basic concept of this thread is why would I want to hire an escort for a purely platonic afternoon or evening? If, for example, I am looking for a lunch or dinner companion and then a platonic afternoon or evening with that person afterwards I have family and longtime friends with whom I can do that. I have never hired an escort for one hour. I always hire them for lunch or dinner and then a couple of hours of play time. I follow this pattern even with escorts I know well. I enjoy the meal conversation and I enjoy the play time after. I’m afraid I just don’t understand why I would want to spend money to hire a companion simply to share platonic time with me. What is the point?????

 

Well as to your question about a purely platonic evening, not all of us live near our families or may have a large selection of friends to pick from. I myself enjoy going to events that not a single one of my friends would be interested in attending. I have gone to the events myself and while I do enjoy my own company, thought it would be even more fun with someone.

[Mark450]

Thanks for the very varied replies

 

What a great set of responses once again from this group. I see the comments are as varied as the people belonging to this forum.

My original intent was to distinguish the possibility of a fee difference between different types of dates. Not having a large base of friends, there are times I'd like to go somewhere for say 4 or 5 hours but I really don't have the means to pay $800 to $1000 to do that.

 

Does anyone know of another web site that perhaps lends itself more to that type of arrangement?