Reviews, particulary on M4R

[Guest sigpifratguy]

Are there any good reasons for a escort with an ad to not allow a review/rating to be posted? I am always suspicious when the REVIEW HIM link is disabled and even more cautious when there are three or four great ratings and then the REVIEW HIM link is disabled. From an escorts perspective, is there any reason to do this other then the obvious? Or is this a sure sign of trouble?

 

Thanks

[Steven_Draker]

Welcome to the Board, sigpifratguy.

Considering you're meaning M4RNow the only reason I see for an escort to disable the "review him" function would be a stalker with an ill intent to trash that particular escort. The reviews published on that very site are not verified. Depending on the membership the escort can delete one to three reviews a month. I hope this helps.

 

Cheers, Steven ~

[wayout]

Welcome to the Board, sigpifratguy.

Considering you're meaning M4RNow the only reason I see for an escort to disable the "review him" function would be a stalker with an ill intent to trash that particular escort. The reviews published on that very site are not verified. Depending on the membership the escort can delete one to three reviews a month. I hope this helps.

 

Cheers, Steven ~[/color]

 

Steven, Wouldn't it also be a reason to disable reviews if the escort were scamming clients or very unreliable and he did not want anyone to find out?

[Scorpio]

I agree with Steven. I personally know several reputable escorts that this has happen to them on M4RN.

 

But by the same token, there are the occasional disreputable escorts that disable the reviews to hide their bad reputations. I notice this happens a lot with newer escorts that are out to scam clients.

 

The problem is that you never know which situation that you're dealing with. A reputable escort trying to prevent anonymous people from trashing his good reputation. Or the disreputable escort trying to prevent the unsuspecting from catching on to his scam.

[Steven_Draker]

Steven, Wouldn't it also be a reason to disable reviews if the escort were scamming clients or very unreliable and he did not want anyone to find out?

 

Absolutely, wayout. I haven't thought about this, but it looks like a pertinent reason to disable the function.

[orbital sander]

I always take the Men 4 Rent reviews with a grain of salt...the system is flawed at best.

[Kevin Slater]

Extremely questionable reviews are just one of the myriad problems that site has. The reviews are devoid of text. Hell, you can't enter text when you email an escort from the site, so why should you be able to say anything when you subsequently review him? And the more an escort pays each month the more reviews he can delete. Consequently, just like Lake Wobegon's children, everybody is above average.

 

Far better to rely on Daddy's for your reviews (and rentboy or rentmen for your searches).

 

Kevin Slater

[Guest BrandonWilliams]

I agree with Steven and Kevin on this matter. When based in the Midwest, I personally had the unfortunate experience of a local trying to sabotage my reputation by submitting bogus reviews....repeatedly....to the point that I finally closed the review option on M4RN. The reviews are so vague and really tell one absolutely nothing about the experience. I have yet to have someone tell me they are concerned I do not have reviews on that site when I have solid reviews on daddys.

 

Honestly, if somehow all of my potential Midwestern clients could become reliant on rentboy, I would have no problem deleting my profile on M4RN. However, I have finally resigned myself to the fact that Midwest based clients tend to always search M4RN.....and I do enjoy my Midwestern friends.

[Diverdan]

Brandon,

I live in the midwest, and after several years of issues/problems, etc. I NEVER use M4RN for all the reasons that have been stated in this thread and previous threads. For better or worse, I find RB to be much better, and I always check Daddy's Reviews and also on postings here as well. I have just been burned to many times on M4RN and found that any negative reviews I posted, which were well deserved, were always deleted.

Dan

[Guest BrandonWilliams]

Dan,

 

I am so happy to hear you, too, are a champion of the RB site. I'm sorry our paths never crossed when I was in the Midwest. Hmmm....what should one do about that?

[Guest RyanCade]

Yes there is

 

Are there any good reasons for a escort with an ad to not allow a review/rating to be posted? I am always suspicious when the REVIEW HIM link is disabled and even more cautious when there are three or four great ratings and then the REVIEW HIM link is disabled. From an escorts perspective, is there any reason to do this other then the obvious? Or is this a sure sign of trouble?

 

Thanks

 

I visited orlando Florida and was asked to drive to the east coast which was about two hours away, I did, the gentleman had fallen asleep. I was well on my way back to orlando, when he called me and asked me to turn around. when I got back he said all he had was 100.00, he said to please wait at his home while he went to the bank. I waited outside for 45 minutes and then left with the 100.00 he gave me. He has posted one bad review after another texting me every morning to make me aware that there was another bad review. M4RN allows an escort to delete 3 reviews a month with a premium membership.

 

The reviews on M4RN should not be trusted anyway. there is no process to verify their validity. escorts are capable of writing them themselves. I have asked my clients not to write reviews on M4RN. though I would never write my own review, I would never put any weight in them. but M4RN does not require personal info, which is appealing to many clients.

 

I gave up deleting this mans reviews, but would not remove the feature, because it does appear very shady. I would never hire an escort who had removed the feature, especially since they can delete three a month. yes I do hire from time to time. :-)

[orbital sander]

The reviews on M4RN should not be trusted anyway. there is no process to verify their validity. escorts are capable of writing them themselves. I have asked my clients not to write reviews on M4RN. though I would never write my own review, I would never put any weight in them. but M4RN does not require personal info, which is appealing to many clients.

 

How ironic to hear you say this about M4RN...

[Mark Gordon]

Hell, you can't enter text when you email an escort from the site

 

Kevin, this was actually changed some time ago. Clients can now enter text in their initial email.

[Guest RyanCade]

How ironic to hear you say this about M4RN...

 

 

I have always felt that way about M4RN reviews. I brought up one situation where I felt the client reviews helped me, that did not make me feel the escort reviews on m4rn were sound. but I can see why you would find it ironic, if you didn't understand my position on the previous thread.

 

Huggs.

[Diverdan]

We'll Meet ...

 

Hey Brandon,

Yes, sorry we have not met yet, but certainly will one of these days as I travel a lot.

I always like to have something to look forward too...

Dan

 

PS... I enjoy your posts too !

[jimboivyo]

-Agree with ryan. M4RN reviews are worthless and their vetting process is almost zero. People can submit anything they want and it will be approved and posted the next day, whether it be truth or lie. I'd use them to find an escort, but never to find a review of an escort.

[JoeyBryant]

What I've done is to simply disable the reading and rating of the star rating review. However, there is a section in small print that says 'read text reviews'. I've had a few people tell me they've read the reviews I have on there which was extra incentive to see me. I do not believe that disabling the star rating section is a way to cover up anything or look suspicious. I just think its pointless, especially when anyone can create another email and put in a star rating of 5 stars everytime. thus I do not have it as an option. But I do have text reviews from real clients.

 

By the way, the text reviews are from Cruisingforescorts.com.

[+ peterhung85]

!!!!the truth about the m4r review system!!!

 

Are there any good reasons for a escort with an ad to not allow a review/rating to be posted? I am always suspicious when the REVIEW HIM link is disabled and even more cautious when there are three or four great ratings and then the REVIEW HIM link is disabled. From an escorts perspective, is there any reason to do this other then the obvious? Or is this a sure sign of trouble?

 

Thanks

 

Many escorts will not like what I am going to write, but I will write the truth because I would like EVERYBODY to know what really is going on on M4R.

To be able to understand deeply what's going on with the M4R reviews, you need to know how the system works. Here is how you can submit a review. After registering (which process takes less than 1 minute), it gives you a code that activates your username. You log in find an escort and the review procedure takes about 30 seconds... Just click on a couple of things and you are done. The whole process takes less than 2 minutes in every case. With one username you can submit 1 review of the same person in every 30 days and you are also entitled for submitting 1 review each day maximum.

Most of the escorts by now disabled the button that says: "Review him" ... Why? Escorts who pay for platinum ads, they are entitled to delete 3 reviews per month. Gold:2, Basic:1....

Nowadays what many escorts do (exceptions apply) is that they register and submit bad reviews for people who they think might be their competitions. If I am not a professional client and rarely hire guys, and see that this guy's last 2 reviews were 1-star, I would look for somebody who does not have a bad rating obviously while it can happen that this guy is just very popular and somebody wants to achieve less bookings for that guy which could possibly result in more bookings for himself. It happened to me numerous times - before I disabled my button - that in one night I got four 1-star ratings... I almost had previously booked clients cancelling on me... Fortunately it did not happen. So the reason why many escorts disable their "review him" button is because of this. 99% of those reviews are fake and artificially created.

NOBODY should rely on their reviews... There is only ONE authentic review site for gay/bisexual escorts and this place is Daddysreviews.com PERIOD.

 

This might hurt other escorts now, might not... I do not really care... I just wanted to lay out the truth to everybody because potential clients are very unlikely to know about this thing.

 

Hope you find your chosen one!

[Kevin Slater]

Peter, I totally agree with your conclusion that reviews on M4RN are as useless as the rest of the site, but how do you know that escorts game the system to sabotage other escorts? Your post implies this is indeed common practice. Is that speculation or do you have some way of knowing this to be true?

 

Kevin Slater

[+ peterhung85]

Hello Kevin!

 

Peter, I totally agree with your conclusion that reviews on M4RN are as useless as the rest of the site, but how do you know that escorts game the system to sabotage other escorts? Your post implies this is indeed common practice. Is that speculation or do you have some way of knowing this to be true?

 

Kevin Slater

 

Hi Kevin,

 

Thanks for your post. It is very easy, actually I have never ever had complaints from any of my clients and what do you think why would someone register 4 different email addresses in one night to submit four 1-star review on me?! There is only one reason one would do that... and that's for ruining other's prestige therefore getting more work for themselves... I see that happens to other escorts who do not disable that function.... It is very sad... I think if somebody is "normal" and put this much effort of ruining somebody then that person should realize that with the same effort he could improve his own situation... but that's clearly shows how uneducated some people are...

Best regards to you!

[Kevin Slater]

It is very easy, actually I have never ever had complaints from any of my clients and what do you think why would someone register 4 different email addresses in one night to submit four 1-star review on me?! There is only one reason one would do that... and that's for ruining other's prestige therefore getting more work for themselves...

 

I'm really sorry that happened to you, but not sure I am willing to conclude that it's the work of some other escort rather than a garden variety stalker, or even if so, that the practice is pervasive. Most of the other working guys I have ever met have been warm and wonderful men who don't deserve the categorical trashings we as a group are sometimes already subject to. But thanks for making your case; I guess everyone is free to interpret the evidence as he will.

 

I'm sure with your sizzling pics and the legitimate reviews you're doing just fine regardless!

 

Kevin Slater

[+ peterhung85]

I'm really sorry that happened to you, but not sure I am willing to conclude that it's the work of some other escort rather than a garden variety stalker, or even if so, that the practice is pervasive. Most of the other working guys I have ever met have been warm and wonderful men who don't deserve the categorical trashings we as a group are sometimes already subject to. But thanks for making your case; I guess everyone is free to interpret the evidence as he will.

 

I'm sure with your sizzling pics and the legitimate reviews you're doing just fine regardless!

 

Kevin Slater

 

Dear Kevin,

 

I am proud to say that I do not have any stalkers... and the same 3-4 people keep posting these reviews (based on the tracked IP addresses) and not just on me, on every other escorts who have not disabled the review him function. Stalkers stalk one specific person they are obsessed with, not everybody who can be reviewed... It is very easy to see that it has to be an escort to generate more income for himself... Thanks for mentioning and yes... so far I have been doing very-well in Vegas

 

Wish you the best!

[Guest sigpifratguy]

Thanks all for the thoughtful responses. The real crux of the problem from the client point of view is there are so many more ads on M4R then the other sites. I do use the reviews on this site and have been steered clear by them before from probably making a poor decision.

 

Thanks again all!

[JoeyBryant]

Im sure Peter's case was probably an isolated incident. Although I do not associate myself with lots of other working guys (except for the older, more mature ones!) due to stuff like jealousy and whatnot...I do not believe the vast majority of us has that much time on our hands to submit bad reviews in a ploy to ruin someone's rep.

 

Although, I have had people write snotty comments on my blog...of course they couldn't show their real email address because they know I'd pop off once I found out their true identity.

[JoeyBryant]

I visited orlando Florida and was asked to drive to the east coast which was about two hours away, I did, the gentleman had fallen asleep. I was well on my way back to orlando, when he called me and asked me to turn around. when I got back he said all he had was 100.00, he said to please wait at his home while he went to the bank. I waited outside for 45 minutes and then left with the 100.00 he gave me

 

I wouldn't of gone back without a deposit. I'd pull over...tell him to go to Wal-Mart and send a moneygram. Going back came off looking gullible, and he got away with bad behavior twice. No one has to time to be taken for that type of ride. And if you took the Bee-line to Titusville...thats toll money. You should have cursed him out on the spot. Atleast he was nice enough to give you 100 for the trouble.