Is it right that escorts enable married men to cheat on their wives?

[MsGuy]

You guys are on a roll tonight!

 

Thanks. I always feel better after laughing my ass off.

[Guest greatness]

oh my

 

MsGuy~~~ I should make you laugh every night then.. I have to come up with something funny.. Be prepared.. Kisses and hugs~~

 

Thanks. I always feel better after laughing my ass off.

[NYTomcat]

Thanks. I always feel better after laughing my ass off.

 

Im telling you msguy. Im getting these boys together. I may not live through the encounter but what a way to go. LOL

 

Of course if I do live through rick,Derek&Romann. I may have to give up my title of permanent newbie.

[+ sf westcoaster]

Always inteeresting to see what happens to a thread. Started as some sort of moral sermon and has now reached the stage of arranging something akin to an orgy.

[Romann]

Right!

 

It must be nice to hear yourself cum.

 

Oh you'll hear me cum! I'm loud, I'm verbal and I LIKE IT! WOOF!

[Romann]

I sorry...

 

Always inteeresting to see what happens to a thread. Started as some sort of moral sermon and has now reached the stage of arranging something akin to an orgy.

 

We're just trying to mix it up a bit and make the thread a bit more light hearted for all to enjoy. I was having so much fun with the boys above last night that my sides were hurting from laughing so hard and having a good time in the wee hours of the night.

 

What's the old saying, "Turn that frown upside down" and I think we accomplished that mission last night.

 

Addictive!

[doitb4ugo]

We're just trying to mix it up a bit and make the thread a bit more light hearted for all to enjoy. I was having so much fun with the boys above last night that my sides were hurting from laughing so hard and having a good time in the wee hours of the night.

 

What's the old saying, "Turn that frown upside down" and I think we accomplished that mission last night.

 

Addictive!

 

And I thank you for it....It's is not always enjoyable being considered a two-timing son-of-a-bitch scumbag who is too selfish to think of anybody else's happiness but their own....I think I prefer the "damn the torpedoes" to hell with them all approach.

 

On a lighter note, Is there room for me in that orgy?

[Romann]

Right!

 

It's is not always enjoyable being considered a two-timing son-of-a-bitch

 

On a lighter note, Is there room for me in that orgy?

 

But you're my two-timing son-of-a-bitch and I love you for it!

[Guest RyanCade]

Whatever happen to the pizza

 

Well I know you ask a different question... but the reality is the blame or blamelessness really falls on the cheater. In this case me. and others like me. The men we hire are simply our choice not to hit the bars, parks, cruising spots and the like just as it is yours as a single unattached man. As to my culpability I have addressed this matter many times the most recently here:

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?t=74523

 

I think this is the best answer I can give you as to my position on the matter.

 

GAME!!! This was a great op to enjoy some great pizza, Hawaiian pizza, yeah!!

[Guest RyanCade]

Ummm Yeah!

 

Oh you'll hear me cum! I'm loud, I'm verbal and I LIKE IT! WOOF!

 

WOOF! Romann WOOF! WOOF! WOOF!!! That's F***in Hott!

[NYTomcat]

Always inteeresting to see what happens to a thread. Started as some sort of moral sermon and has now reached the stage of arranging something akin to an orgy.

 

{Blush} boy are my cheeks red.

[Romann]

Oh really!?

 

{Blush} boy are my cheeks red.

 

Ass or face cheeks?

[ShaunRoss]

Hi there cynicalflannelwearer!

 

First off all, are letting the forum know where you come from in your view points with your screen name...'cynicalflannelwearer'?

 

Are you cynical? Which in a nut shell means that you are contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives and that you that you believe human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest.

 

Knowing that would make more sense of your post. I feel that it was not placed on the forum to 'cause trouble", rather, they are placed on the forum to cause discussion and perhaps give validity to what you are thinking...but...HOPEFULLY it also gives you other view points that you will take into consideration.

 

It is very interesting to me that you state that 'but I know darn well that a majority of men that see male escorts are heterosexually married,most with children,with the wife not knowing what is going on, and while I don't have any statistics to back what I am saying up, I am pretty sure that this is the case.'

 

So...you know darn well or you are pretty sure..but you don't have any statistics.

 

Most of my friends and clients are NOT married. They are single gay men who have varied life styles. The commonality between them is that they share time with me because their life does not allow them to meet someone for intimacy by chance, or going to a dinner party or bar or however people meet out in life.

 

They are owners of businesses, high level executives, playboys, athletes, hard working blue collar studs, professors and on and on.

 

Their lives do not allow them meet some one in the 'traditional' ways and many times they have no desire to meet someone in a 'traditional' way. How they know me is FANTASTIC for them and for me

 

Yes! Of course escorts have a profit motive for what they do. It is their livelihood! They are not providing their time for free!!

 

Escorts are not 'preying' on married men for a quick buck as you put it. Escorts do not have control as to who contacts them. Escorts have advertisements, they have reviews, they may be recommended to somebody by an already existing client...but the client ultimately comes to us based on their decision to do so.

 

Now, I have seen some escort ads that state 'Married men, Bi guys and first timers welcome'. However, if you go through most escort ads, you do not find that wordage.

 

We are providing a service and that service is enabling you to share time with us. What we choose to do in that time is up to you and I, but ultimately it is for our time.

 

Whether or not an escort has exclusions, limitations or boundaries as to who he provides his service to is at his discretion.

 

Are all escorts to ban married men because they are married. Do you cynicalflannelwearer know that status of each marriage? You are assuming that every marriage is happily committed with children bouncing off the parents knees and monogamy flags blowing proudly in the front yard.

 

Non sense!

 

Like any relationship, marriage has its high level of complications.

 

Not all marriages are what they seem. Some people are married but have very separate personal lives and it is known to both partners.

 

You might also be interested to know that I was once used by a married man to be the catalyst to end his marriage. What I went through with him was not how I would like to make a 'quick' buck as you put it.

 

In my first year of going on dates I met someone who was VERY nice. We had communicated for a long time. We had our first date a few months before Christmas time and it was VERY fun.

 

After our first date, we saw each other again and again. We had wonderful conversations, fun and highly intimate sex, shared awesome dinners together and laughed...wow did we laugh!

 

What I did not know is that he was married. At one point I had asked him because he was talking about his family, but he told me that when he said family, he meant his parents and siblings.

 

On Christmas eve, I had some family and friends over. My cell phone had been ringing but I did not notice right away. Some time later, I noticed it flashing and picked it up. I had a voice mail.

 

It was from his wife! She was ANGRY and UPSET beyond words that I was sleeping with her husband. She had pieced together things about me like where I was living and other information and was threatening to come over!

 

I eventually found out that all of this was because her husband was gay. He had been thinking of a way to leave her for some time and thought that this was his best way of doing it!

 

He purposely left my contact information where she could find it, he purposely left his e-mail open on the computer so she could read it, he purposely made telephone calls to me when she was close by and I never knew he was doing all that.

 

I did call her a few days after Christmas. The beautiful thing about such an ugly situation was that I ended up having some amazing conversations with here. She was so confused and upset with her husband. However, she did realize that I was not the cause of who her husband was. I was able to give her some clarity and perspective and even sent her the money that I had made from my time with him as a token of good will.

 

So!

 

That is an example of how the wife does not know what is going on...however...was this my fault? Was I preying on a married man for a quick buck. No way! I was victimized just as much as she was.

 

Now! I have also been with a married man. Yes, I knew that he was married..but I also knew that his wife had a debilitating condition. She was confined to a wheel chair, she could not hold a conversation, needed full care, she could not even tell you what day it was, she was unaware of her surroundings and could not participate in daily life. His wife had been like this for some years but he honored his commitment to here and took care of her (with the help of home nurses) until she died.

 

I was at her funeral as he wanted me there with him.

 

Here is a man that did not have ANY intimacy with his spouse for years. Was he wrong because he wanted to have basic conversation with someone, Was he wrong because he wanted someone to hug him, hold his hand, kiss him? Was he wrong because he needed to share intimacy with someone?...and not just sex...but intimacy, connection, affection.

 

Escorting is not just about sex (Although it can be:) ) It is very much about a true connection with someone and the sharing of intimacy and emotion.

 

Am I wrong for sharing in such an emotionally intense time for him? NO! I am blessed and honored that he wanted to share that much of his life with me.

 

 

Let us not judge others and let us not group everyone together in one category where everyone is going through the same experience or has the same motivations in life...because we do not!

 

Do not assume that the majority of all escorts clients are married men doing devious things behind their family's backs. Do not assume that all married men have children. Do not assume that all married men's wives don't have agendas and secrets of their own. Do not assume that you know all there is to know about the wonderful and complicated world of being a professional escort...because cynicalflannelwearer...YOU DO NOT!

 

However, I like that you are asking questions...even in your cynical manner.

 

HUGS

 

~Shaun Ross

[josephga]

lol

[Romann]

Put your bibs on!

 

On a lighter note, Is there room for me in that orgy?

 

If we keep this up, it's going to be one hot mess of man-on-man soup! Goooooooooooooooooood to the last drop and there are lots of drops with all these bodies jumping in!

 

NEXT! Now servicing number...

[jimboivyo]

Funny that so many on this thread are screaming 'troll' when they themselves have been trolls in the past on different subjects.

 

Married men and women have been cheating on each other since the dawn of time. Is doing it with paid help any different or that much worse? Not really. At least with an escort, you're not looking for long term love.

[Boston Guy]

Funny that so many on this thread are screaming 'troll' when they themselves have been trolls in the past on different subjects.

 

Really? I wasn't aware that I have been a troll in the past on a different subject or, in fact, on any subject. Please do provide a link.

 

Thanks.

 

BG

[Guest greatness]

well

 

I enjoyed your post.. One thing I find it odd is that you are asking cynicalflannelwearer not to assume things but you do the same thing based on his sn? Anyways, Shaun I think you are hot. Kisses and hugs~~~~

[ShaunRoss]

Hi greatness!

 

I agree with you about the screen name thing...it was an assumption on my part...but I feel that with the nature of his post...he indeed is cynical!

 

Thank you for thinking that I am hot and I am going to be even hotter later today when I go for a run here in HOTLANTA!

 

Loving the heat...it is relaxing my muscles

 

HUGS AND KISSES TO YOU GREATNESS!!!

[+ newatthis]

I often wonder how being an escort will preclude me from being with a man later in my life. I have been single for virtually 5 years now mostly by choice but the last two years mainly because I'm an escort. I've attempted to make that connection with guys that interest me and because of what I do, I'm turned down ...Sometimes I look at other escorts who do have boyfriends/husbands and wonder how in hell they made it work. Why are they able to find it and not me?...

It will happen for you if that's what you want and are ready for it, perhaps not on the exact timetable you'd like. The qualities that make you a good escort and friend will make you a good partner for someone you find special. You can put that in the bank.

 

Here's a story in point. I recently had a drink with an escort -- not yet 30 -- whom I've known for a few years. He is now married (I mean really married in a place where that's legal) to his boyfriend of 5 years. A year or two after they became boyfriends, they decided to supplement their income by escorting (both as singles and as a couple), then the boyfriend gave it up, then they decided to marry. My friend never gave up escorting. Their relationship is open sexually in other ways -- they sometimes bring a 3rd guy home to enjoy together. Yet as best as I can tell from the outside, they have a very strong bond, as strong as those of some of my long-married hetero friends. It's just based on things other than sexual exclusivity.

[Guest greatness]

oh my

 

Oh my that's really hot. I think I have to check 6 O'clock news today to see whether everything is all right in Atlanta... Now try to avoid faint hearted ones.. I think I have to bring my heart medication if I ever see you..

 

Hi greatness!

 

I agree with you about the screen name thing...it was an assumption on my part...but I feel that with the nature of his post...he indeed is cynical!

 

Thank you for thinking that I am hot and I am going to be even hotter later today when I go for a run here in HOTLANTA!

 

Loving the heat...it is relaxing my muscles

 

HUGS AND KISSES TO YOU GREATNESS!!!

[doitb4ugo]

Rip

 

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[Guest greatness]

oh my

 

Romann you will definitely find someone.. Cheers~

 

 

It will happen for you if that's what you want and are ready for it, perhaps not on the exact timetable you'd like. The qualities that make you a good escort and friend will make you a good partner for someone you find special. You can put that in the bank.

 

Here's a story in point. I recently had a drink with an escort -- not yet 30 -- whom I've known for a few years. He is now married (I mean really married in a place where that's legal) to his boyfriend of 5 years. A year or two after they became boyfriends, they decided to supplement their income by escorting (both as singles and as a couple), then the boyfriend gave it up, then they decided to marry. My friend never gave up escorting. Their relationship is open sexually in other ways -- they sometimes bring a 3rd guy home to enjoy together. Yet as best as I can tell from the outside, they have a very strong bond, as strong as those of some of my long-married hetero friends. It's just based on things other than sexual exclusivity.

[Guest greatness]

well

 

We all have to balance things. It's always good to have both conscience and a dick.

 

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[Rick Munroe]

Always inteeresting to see what happens to a thread. Started as some sort of moral sermon and has now reached the stage of arranging something akin to an orgy.

 

Guilty as charged! I am a chronic thread-hijacker, esp. when I'm thinking with my dick.