Buyer Beware of Bisexual Escorts!

[+ ArVaGuy]

I've hired a couple of guys who claim to be bi-sexual and had no issues with them at all. However, in several instances my worst experiences have been with exclusively gay escorts. So by the logic of the original post I should not hire any exclusively gay escorts due to risk of having bad experiences.

[raulgmanzo]

On some sites I have checked the Bi box. But both professionally and for fun I have sex with EASILY a hundred times more men than women. I'm sure it will disgust some of you to learn that like once a year I might hookup with a woman and that every once in a while a woman hires me. Hey, I'm a wh*re, okay?

 

But not to worry I use condoms for anal AND vaginal sex. Oh and perhaps it will make people feel better to know that when being intimate with a woman I am actually imagining that a big butch dude is coercing me to do it and my reward will be that he will fuck me good when I'm done.

 

I have met many gay (and straight and bi) folks with many restrictions, and limitations. Actually I like to use the term "straight" the way it used be used, that is to refer to someone who is rigid and doesn't stray from a straight and narrow path. Let me assure you that plenty of gay guys are extremely straight, square, boring, limited and hung up with restrictions, just like, gasp, every other kind of person.

 

I just can't believe the rules people come up with. It's like I flew United once and the plane was late so I'll never fly them again. Oh and never take a flight with a pilot whose last name has an odd number of letters.

 

I like sucking cock, fucking guys, and getting fucked if his cock is not too long. In fact even after I've cum and orgasmed I'm usually up for more cock and ass, and muscle. A lot of people say that makes me gay, which is just fine though often I call myself queer.

 

Can't we just have fun? Do we need to get hung up on these labels?

[doitb4ugo]

I like sucking cock, fucking guys, and getting fucked if his cock is not too long. In fact even after I've cum and orgasmed I'm usually up for more cock and ass, and muscle. A lot of people say that makes me gay, which is just fine though often I call myself queer.

 

Can't we just have fun? Do we need to get hung up on these labels?

 

Hey Raul, Given your description above....It sounds like you sure know how to have fun with or without a label.

[CF]

Cute, Count PurpleKow. Who could possibly think anyone could be unreasonable, if they posted here.....lol

For me, I have a problem with what is considered bi, or straight.

I guess I'm at that age where being straight meant to me, you only got intimate with the opposite sex. No gray areas, just black and white.

I have been with several bi escorts from this site, and I got to tell you that there were no hold barred when the bedroom door closed. I simply knew what to expect, because I asked.

On the other hand, I have been with strictly gay escorts, that had more restrictions than foreign trade. Again, I knew what to expect, and it was my choice to see them.

Who ever I have decided on, I have been sensible enough to know exactly what I was in store for by asking the right questions. This avoids the bad feelings and finger pointing when everything was over.

In the end, it's all about communication.

PS, you were right ARVAGUY, two of my worst experiences were with a only gay escort. Guess there is a lesson somewhere here.

[Guest Tristan]

Has anyone thought, that maybe the fault was not just the lack of so called communication between the main poster and escort, but also the possibility of the poster just being unreasonable in what they expected. Just a thought.

 

Well, your thought is way off the mark. I was more than reasonable in what I expected. You have no basis to say otherwise. Did you read what I wrote carefully? Do you think that 5 mins of mechanical fucking without any prepping, restriction to one position, no cum shot, and less than 2 minutes of oral stimulation qualify for good sex in a 2-hour session? The escort in question loves to lay back and GET, but not GIVE. He seems to be into having his body worshipped. I didn't pay good money for this. One thing I did learn from this experience. You have to be very specific no matter how many good reviews an escort has. I won't hire again unless the escort is willing to answer a short list of VERY specific sexual questions. And I will give much less weight to reviews.

 

Members sometimes complain that we don't get more honest, negative reviews. This is an example of why we don't. Members are frequently encouraged to write a review of a bad experience. What for? So the perosn can then get skewered? People who say negative things about someone's favorite escort are assumed guilty until proven innocent.

 

Until the client is not automatically blamed in the case of a known escort, this site will never encourage people to write reviews unless they are totally positive, or the escort did something so horrendous like take the money and run. You can't have it both ways. If you want a balance in escort reviews, then people have to accept negative comments about escorts, even those with a lot of good reviews.

[doitb4ugo]

A Controversial Idea!

 

Tristan,

 

I understand where you are coming from...And agree to a degree about some reviews. What makes it easy to write a good review after a positive experience with a guy is the fact that the entire review is free form and does not put any framework around the experience.

 

Becasue my own experiences have been very positive for me, my reviews reflect that opinion. Could my experiences have been better? Of course. Would someone else find the same experience to be just as positive?Maybe and Maybe not.

 

In there reading of reviews we are not comparing apples to apples. If I don't mention the guy recipricating in one of my reviews, does that mean he didn't or does is mean I didn't mention it?

 

I don't suspect that many here will agree but I think the reviews might be more helpful for everyone if there were a small survey style section up front..with room for comments, followed by the usual free text portion....

 

That way every review discloses or works from the same data points and still gives the reviewer a good chance to describe his experience....

 

Just my thoughts.

[MscleLovr]

So please can I urge you again to name the escort? It would help others here to avoid what happened to you.

[Guest Tristan]

So please can I urge you again to name the escort? It would help others here to avoid what happened to you.

 

Please read reply #30, if you haven't already done so. Also, go back and read my second long post. That clearly states why I don't want to write a review.

 

It's clear from some of the more recent posts, that some people are just itching to pounce on me because I must not have communicated what I wanted. IMHO, even if I did not fully ask every single question, that does not justify the escort being so detached and self absorbed. I agree that the client needs to ask very specific questions. But the escort also has a responsibility to be proactive and not lay there like a log. Otherwise, what the hell are we paying good $$ for?

[MscleLovr]

It was because of reading your post #30 that I wrote asking you to name this guy who performed so poorly.

 

I understand your wish not to be unfairly criticized but one of the joys of this site is the willingness of men to share their experiences, good and bad. It is one of the very few ways we can hold to account those guys who do not deliver as agreed.

[CF]

Funny thing about reviews, there is always the question of credibility. For instance, you may find an escort with a stellar reputation being slammed by a client, or one with a lousy reputation going thru the same thing. How do we judge what's true or what's not? Do we depend on the remarks of the poster as gospel? Do we look at the history of the escorts reviews? Depend on feedback from his clients? Or do we assume if it's bad it must be true?

I have seen quite a few negative things over the years in these posts. Quite frankly, there has been a lot of pettiness that has on more than one occasion caused Daddy to take this site down.

Understand, this forum is for discussion. That's what it was designed for. And, I am in no way saying this poster is not justified posting his comments. However, what bothers me is the constant decent from discussion to bickering when someone dares to offer a thought or other opinion that is to the contrary.

[JT Brooklyn]

Moving On!

 

Well we have over the Year's had "Similar Threads" about what was not considered a Great or Good Time.

 

No Review Fine..because a Reputable "Working Guy" would probably Respond THUS Dragging this on as "Chit-Chat" Forever!

 

I would also find it STRANGE IF NOW you did divulge the Name of the alleged Working Guy NOW that we are on what PAGE #4!

 

It's always good to VENT!...BUT I am thinking now is the "Time to Move On"!

[Guest Tristan]

Well we have over the Year's had "Similar Threads" about what was not considered a Great or Good Time.

 

No Review Fine..because a Reputable "Working Guy" would probably Respond THUS Dragging this on as "Chit-Chat" Forever!

 

I would also find it STRANGE IF NOW you did divulge the Name of the alleged Working Guy NOW that we are on what PAGE #4!

 

It's always good to VENT!...BUT I am thinking now is the "Time to Move On"!

 

I have no intention of divulging the name of the escort. I never did when I started the thread. I agree. It would be strange. But this is not a game. I was badly burned.

 

The first group of posters were right on track. Then the usual side shows developed which made this thread longer.

 

As for moving on, I think things are coming to a close. But that's not your call.

 

If you don't like this thread, then don't read it and you "move on".

[JT Brooklyn]

I have no intention of divulging the name of the escort. I never did when I started the thread. I agree. It would be strange. But this is not a game. I was badly burned.

 

The first group of posters were right on track. Then the usual side shows developed which made this thread longer.

 

As for moving on, I think things are coming to a close. But that's not your call.

 

If you don't like this thread, then don't read it and you "move on".

 

L O L My Friend.. I think it's Time to put something on that "Burn" or it ain't EVER gonna Heal!

[CF]

Well put, Brooklyn.

[Guest Tristan]

Well put, Brooklyn.

 

You can't seem to make up your mind which side of your mouth should speak. First you send me a message imploring me to write a review. Then you write a post that demonstates exactly why lots of people on this site won't write a negative review.

 

No, NOT well put Brooklyn or CF. If the two of you don't like this thread, why do you keep reading it? Have you nothing better to do than to harass people?

[Guest Tristan]

I thank the people who were supportive and those who respectfully expressed a difference of opinion. Unfortunately, as is typical on this site, the sideshows began as well as harassment for the fun of it.

 

It's clear from the responses that people have had very different experiences with Bi escorts. Some say they have had great sex with Bi escorts. Others have had such bad experience, as soon as they see Bi in the profile, they move to the next profile. If that's been people's experience, then so be it. As a result of my experience, I think I'm now belong to the second group.

 

When I started this thread, I made it clear that I was not going to name the escort. I didn't and I'm not. Nor have I named the person in any private message. This was no game. I was badly burned.

 

I accept the suggestions that were constructive. The next time I hire, I will be very specific about everything I want. If the escort won't answer, ce la vie. I go to the next one.

 

However, it's also the escort's responsibility to make sure the client's needs are met. There are escorts on this site who clearly state that their job is to satisfy the client. That's why we pay them good money. The escort in question did not have the philosophy of making sure the client is satisfied. He didn't care.

 

A reviewer on this site, in setting up a meet with an escort, got back the following response from the escort:

 

"I got back a positive response and he said his job is to make me happy."

 

If that had been the philosophy of the escort in question, this thread would never have existed.

 

Yes, I believe in GOOD COMMUNICATION. But the communication needs to be mutual. And I will not back off that position. It takes two to tango, and the escort needs to be sure he has clarified what the client wants. In any case, as I said, I will have a list of items as specific as you can get. That will now include things like, "Do you fuck in multiple positions, or are you restricted to one"? Now I know I have to ask this.

 

As for the issue of writing a negative reiview of a popular escort, a person would have to be crazy to do that. Unless the escort was guilty of a totally indefensible act, like "taking the money and run", no reviewer will be given a fair hearing. He will become cannon fodder. The friends/clients of the escort will try to pound him into dust. That has always been the way things work here.

 

THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD ON THIS SITE:

 

Some members encourage, even implore, people to write negative reviews in order to help others avoid the same problems. Then, if the client writes a negative review of an escort with a previously good track record, they want to stone him to death. Well make up your minds. You can't have it both ways.

 

THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE WHO ARE AFRAID TO WRITE NEGATIVE REVIEWS!

 

If you want members to write negative comments about a popular escort, then you have to be open minded about that individual's experience and not assume he must have caused the problem. Otherwise, there will always be the fear of writing a negative review.

 

When I say a negative review, it doesn't necessarily mean all bad. Had I written a review, it would have been balanced with some very positive things in it. I believe in balance. Sad to say, the escort's supporters would still want to grind the reviewer into dust for having said anything bad at all. It's as if escorts with a lot of good reviews are untouchable. That's a really backward and illogical position. People change. Escorts change. Maybe, the escort had a really bad morning. That's not the client's fault. Or, maybe there are a lot of fake reviews in the track record. Both escorts and clients have been caught writing bogus reviews on this site.

 

Reviews are only one source of information. In the future, I will place much less weight on them and more weight on how the escort answers questions, the tone of his response, etc.

 

There's an escort on this site with about a half dozen good reviews and no bad ones. When someone asked the 411 question about him, there was a lot of feedback that he is bad news. None of this info was in the reviews.

 

Thanks again to all those who took the time to write constructive posts. I sincerely appreciate it and have learned a few important things from this thread. With that said, I will think twice before ever starting a controversial thread again. It's too tempting for those whose sole purpose is to wreak havoc in the thread. And it's just too time consuming to deal with people who just want to harass you.

 

I want to express special thanks to those who sent me private supportive messages. That meant a lot to me.