Who thinks reviews are fabricated?

[+ glutes]

How many think (some) reviews are just simply made-up, pure fantasy, to help the escort?

In looking around through various threads (not reviews), it has become apparent...

[vabballfan]

Are you kidding?

 

How many think reviews are just simply made-up, pure fantasy, to help the escort?

In a looking around through various threads, it has become apparent...

 

A review here and there might be pure fantasy. But every review I've ever posted was an actual encounter with an escort and the review was a true to life representation of the session.

 

Making a general statement that reviews are made up (which implies all reviews since it was an unqualified statement) is sheer nonsense. I don't do a review for every escort experience I have. But when I write a review it's accurate and not done to promote the escort or based on a request from the escort. If an escort requested that I write a review, I would purposely not write one. Most of the escorts I have reviewed (the good reviews, the vast majority) wouldn't need to falsely promote themselves.

[twinkboylover28]

How many think (some) reviews are just simply made-up, pure fantasy, to help the escort?

In looking around through various threads (not reviews), it has become apparent...

 

 

 

dont feed the troll...

 

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[shadowcatzxxx]

you bet some reviews are fabricated

 

How many think (some) reviews are just simply made-up, pure fantasy, to help the escort?

In looking around through various threads (not reviews), it has become apparent...

 

I can't tell you how many times I've hired escorts with reviews that practically set the computer screen on fire ... only to find that their pics were years out of date, that they didn't, in fact like to do what they are supposed to like doing, etc. This is particularly bad with massage reviews - not just on this site, but also on massagem4m and masseurfinder. As someone who likes a sensual massage that is actually a MASSAGE, I am very often deeply disappointed in the "skills" of masseurs who are often reviewed as well-trained, experts, etc.

 

And I don't mean the occasional service provider who just has a bad day (who doesn't?) or with whom I just don't click (that happens!). I mean reviews whose resemblance to the services actually provided seems minimal to non-existent.

 

And it seems a pity that there ARE fantastic, energetic, dedicated service providers out there who really do knock my socks off, curl my toes, and make my neck and back feel better to boot. Those folks are getting shafted because they don't stand out from the pack the way they should.

 

I'm not saying that many reviewers here post bogus reviews ... just that it seems that some service providers have multiple avatars (or friends) who all post glowing reviews. Or something like that.

[jgoo]

I can't tell you how many times I've hired escorts with reviews that practically set the computer screen on fire ... only to find that their pics were years out of date, that they didn't, in fact like to do what they are supposed to like doing, etc. This is particularly bad with massage reviews - not just on this site, but also on massagem4m and masseurfinder. As someone who likes a sensual massage that is actually a MASSAGE, I am very often deeply disappointed in the "skills" of masseurs who are often reviewed as well-trained, experts, etc.

 

And I don't mean the occasional service provider who just has a bad day (who doesn't?) or with whom I just don't click (that happens!). I mean reviews whose resemblance to the services actually provided seems minimal to non-existent.

 

And it seems a pity that there ARE fantastic, energetic, dedicated service providers out there who really do knock my socks off, curl my toes, and make my neck and back feel better to boot. Those folks are getting shafted because they don't stand out from the pack the way they should.

 

I'm not saying that many reviewers here post bogus reviews ... just that it seems that some service providers have multiple avatars (or friends) who all post glowing reviews. Or something like that.

 

 

I hope that for those contrary experiences that do not live up to their reviews that you take the time and effort to submit your own review to help put things in perspective. This is one of the ways to help keep the review system in check and balance. I am sure that there are other things that can be done to help minimize the risk of fabricated reviews but frankly they would likely be cost or time prohibitive. I doubt it is practical to totally eliminate the possibility of someone abusing the system. Ultimately the more reviews from different reviewers, the greater the chances that a more accurate reflection of the service and service provider will come out. And finally, I would rather have the reviews we do in this site than the alternative.

[+ bigjoey]

My reviews are real experiences. However, "chemistry" often has a big part to play. When reading reviews, I look to who has reviewed the escort. some reviewers has taste close to mine and our experiences will be similiar.

[adriano46]

Good POint, BIGJOEY. Chemistry and individal's tastes are what is important.

 

I like guys who fit into a certain niche, a readers here may have noticed, and only rarely go loutside the box seeking someone else.

 

I have had some encounters that wre terrific, then met the guy a second time, and it was so-so. Other times, I would meet a guy who had a large number of great reviews, then I met him (or them) and it was awful. I generally try to write a review of those negative experiences, but without attacking the escort unless he deserves it (noting escorts have "off" days too and chemistry and individual tastes and expectations play a BIG part in any encounter.)

 

I pay special attention to the client's own description of himself (and unfortunatly we write little about ourselves), or seek the name of a client whose opinion I value, and proceed from there.

 

Sure there are occasionally reviews I think are pure fantasy or the stuff of old gay porn magazines, but I usually move one from them and really do not let them upset me.

[Guest mvan1]

 

How many think (some) reviews are just simply made-up, pure fantasy, to help the escort?

 

In looking around through various threads (not reviews), it has become apparent...

 

 

Of course, it is possible that SOME reviews are fabricated.

 

However, I doubt that most reviews are disingenuous.

 

You stated that "it has become apparent..." but you do not give any examples of why it has "become apparent."

 

I think that multiple reviews found on this site about a specific escort tend to have more credibility than from most other sites where reviews are offered.

 

As stated previously, "chemistry" has a large influence on a review. Therefore, in reading a review it is necessary to realize that one person's opinion may or may not be in synchronization with other persons' opinions.

 

x

[+ glutes]

 

You stated that "it has become apparent..." but you do not give any examples of why it has "become apparent."

 

 

x

 

As the resident archiver here, I ran across a supporter of a escort claiming that his review was fabricated:

 

"I am suggesting that #43 was indeed a fabrication which I am sure was intended to be fun or even funny; constructed as pure porn in part to show how silly responses to requests for more details could be.

[Guest Ca Robert]

I definitely think some are fabricated. I had an experience with one escort who had rave reviews but didn't deliver. His photos were clearly fake, and he misrepreseneted himself. However, he had 3 positive reviews all within a week. I did try to submit a negative review, but it was never published.

 

I know it's a risk to give a negative review, but it does help everyone else, including the escort. That way the escort can either improve or leave the business.

[KMEM]

As the resident archiver here, I ran across a supporter of a escort claiming that his review was fabricated:

 

"I am suggesting that #43 was indeed a fabrication which I am sure was intended to be fun or even funny; constructed as pure porn in part to show how silly responses to requests for more details could be.

 

Gloats-

 

I don't know why you are dragging up this ancient history (both the review and my quote) other than to try to stir up trouble. Troll, indeed.

 

Sure, there are reviews that need a critical eye but your view is the same as a blind man's.

 

I think you need a hobby and it should not include a computer or sharp objects.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Terpmaniac]

What I have always found a bit strange(about reviews) is when taking into account that no two people write the same(differences in diction, spelling, punctuation, etc. etc)the reviews all sound alike???? Go to any other cite where the general public expresses an opinion in you read a variety of writing styles. But you hardly see that with these escort and masseur reviews...thats why I am always a bit suspicious.

[+ ArVaGuy]

There are fabricated reviews here as well as just about any other review site regardless of type. I've seen many fabricated hotel reviews on Trip Advisor that were obviously written by hotel management.

 

It also appears there have been fabricated negative reviews for the purpose of allowing an escort the opportunity to respond in a manner that enhances his reputation. So I'd say such fabrications, if they exisit, can cut many different ways. It's up to the client to filter the BS and make a determination on if they believe the review or not. I do a lot of research before I hire an reviews are but one tool in that process.

 

What I fail to comprehend are obsessive compulsive disorders that focus exclusively on one particular escort that lead to threads such as this. Particularly if said escort has never been hired by the individual so there's little direct explanation for vendettas to such a level. And being Scillian, I know vendettas.

[Guy Fawkes]

Did you ask Daddy about it?

 

I definitely think some are fabricated. I had an experience with one escort who had rave reviews but didn't deliver. His photos were clearly fake, and he misrepreseneted himself. However, he had 3 positive reviews all within a week. I did try to submit a negative review, but it was never published.

 

I know it's a risk to give a negative review, but it does help everyone else, including the escort. That way the escort can either improve or leave the business.

[+ glutes]

Gloats-

 

I don't know why you are dragging up this ancient history (both the review and my quote) other than to try to stir up trouble. Troll, indeed.

 

Sure, there are reviews that need a critical eye but your view is the same as a blind man's.

 

I think you need a hobby and it should not include a computer or sharp objects.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

 

Captain, I didn't know you went back to 'ancient' (your word) history. Old World to the Early Middle Ages, you dating are yourself darling http://m4m-forum.org/images/icons/icon12.gif

 

Now could you tell us if Fosterchow made up other reviews?

[alanalt]

I'm not going to get involved in the 'gossip game' about certain escorts and their admirers/detractors. All I can speak to is my own experience in using the review site. With the exception of a few 'local boys', every escort I've ever been with has been well-reviewed either here or on the prior Hooboy site. And, with only one exception, I found those escorts to have fully deserved their positive reviews. And even in the case of that exception, I had three positive encounters with that escort before a fourth disastrous encounter soured me on that escort - which can very well mean that the positive reviews were based on a less regular/extensive hiring history than I had with that guy.

 

Are there 'fake reviews' on this site? Given the volume of reviews archived here, I'm sure there are. But when it comes to helping me find quality escorts, the service that Daddy, and before him Hooboy, provides/provided has been invaluable - completely. And that, to my mind, is the real issue.

 

Alan

[+ Shoreboy]

Interesting Twist

 

I for one happen to believe that at least 90% of the reviews are from real people with sincere thoughts...I also know that the reviews I have written and have been printed have been as accurate a my perception remembers.

 

However, I had an interesting experince with a great escort in NYC last week. He was young, gorgeous, personable and even performed my role playing scenario to perfection.

 

At the end I was so impressed that I asked him if he wanted me to write a review for his site. His response was "ah don't waste your time, they are all made up anyway".

 

This surprised me since I felt that a good review would increase his visibility and hopefully increase his business.

 

Yet do I follow his wishes or what?

 

I just thought this was interesting inasmuch as the escort himself believes the reviews are fabricated.

[uwsman2]

veracity of reviews

 

I've posted many reviews over the years, all attempting to document my genuine reaction to an actual meeting I had with the escort I reviewed. I submit reviews under a different screen name from the one I use on this discussion forum.

 

My impression is that the reviews posted here run the gamut. Some are honest reviews submitted by satisfied or dissatisfied customers. Others are made up - wishful thinking by a noncustomer, self-promotion by the escort or a friend, sabotage reviews by an enemy or competitor of an escort, promotional copy from an escort service about its boys, etc. I think Daddy tries hard to catch the made up category and keep them from being posted, but a fair number may slip through anyway. My understanding is that Daddy attempts to contact the escort using the contact info provided in the review to verify that it is an actual review by an actual client. Of course, an escort may falsely verify if he planted the review in the first place, or if he is delighted to see a review posted even though he doesn't remember the session described, so verification is not a foolproof process.

 

Over time, however, I think the frequently-reviewed escorts end up having an established record here and it is possible to make knowledgable hiring decisions based on studying these reviews.

[Decatur Guy]

The real key for me is when there's at least 10 reviews for the same guy and I watch for writing styles. It's very difficult for people, even when they try, to mix it up with word usage. (Although writing style is also influenced by others; reviews here tend to be porn-descriptive because that's what we already see on here).

 

Based on that, I think most of the reviews are genuine. The writing styles are varied enough.

 

I've only posted one review and it was genuine.

[Epigonos]

I am beginning to find this thread labored. I have been a participant on HooBoy’s and now on Daddy’s site for nearly ten years. During that period of time I have come to know a number of posters/reviewers personally ie. Lucky, Oliver, jawjateck and several others. All of these guys and I include myself in this statement, write honest reviews and we are REAL. That statement is a FACT. Now if other readers choose to discount us as shills or escort agents so be it.

 

Over the years I have written positive reviews of numerous escorts including, A.J. Irons/Orange County, Dane Scott/Chicago, Scott Adler/Los Angeles, Steven Kesslar/San Francisco, and Todd/Los Angeles to name just a few. Am I promoting these guys – damn right I am; ALL are nice, enjoyable human beings as well as outstanding escorts. I have also, on several occasions, defended Benjamin Nicholas, with whom I spent ONE great evening, against all sorts of accusations from posters who had never met the guy.

 

When reading reviews I would agree that the review frequently tells the reader as much about the reviewer as it does about the escort being reviewed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, in fact it is frequent quite helpful.

 

I have also met and spend time with Daddy. He is also LEGITIMATE. He does everything in his power to make certain that reviews, posted on his site, are legitimate. Do phony reviews “occasionally” slip by – probably but they a few and far between.

 

Now I KNOW FOR A FACT, that everything I have said about the reviewers listed and Daddy are TRUE. Frankly if certain readers don’t choose to believe me and the other posters I have named why are you visiting this site and reading the reviews. You will probably be better off using sites like rentboy and taking your chances.

[+ glutes]

. Frankly if certain readers don’t choose to believe me and the other posters I have named why are you visiting this site and reading the reviews. You will probably be better off using sites like rentboy and taking your chances.

 

The review site and the Message-Forum are well, different sites.

I believe 411 on this site (based on the member) before any review.

The M-F gives me better..., 'sight'.

[N.N.]

I have been participating here for over 10 years, both in the MC and by submitting reviews.

 

My most recent review was not published because this site's policy is now to "hold" reviews about no-shows (whatever "hold" means; it seems to mean "not publish").

 

It rankles to see my honest and factual review not be published-- while I watch suspect "reviews" from first-time reviewers go up (just recently I saw a review from a first-time reviewer that was flat-out wrong about at least one objective point... I know because it was of an escort I've been with).

 

And if you decline to publish a review, it would be nice to tell the reviewer why when you make the decision, rather than just leaving the reviewer to wait for several weeks of not seeing it go up. (And yes, you should tell the reviewer why even if the reason is listed in the FAQ; I've had a no-show review published here before, and had hoped you would see fit to publish another. No-shows suck, and what is the point of this site if not to hold escorts accountable.)

 

We reviewers are doing you a service; the least you could do is send us a short email saying why when you decline to publish a review that one of us took a bit of time to prepare.

[Dave]

certainly some escorts reviews are fabricated. and certainly other escorts wouldn't consider fabricating a review of themselves.

 

i know an escort who offers discounts to his clients if they'll write a review. and i think the discount even applies to the session they've just had!

 

i myself have never fabricated a review. i have definitely asked clients to write some, but that was more common at the beginning, when i had only a few.

 

sometimes my clients seem to really pour their heart into writing; other times it seems almost obligatory for them. we need to remember that not everyone writes like Christopher Moore (i am currently reading Lamb and laughing my ass off)

 

since i don't review other escorts, i've never had to write to Daddy about a no-show. and i've never, EVER been a no-show, so i've never had to worry about being written about that way. but i am now wondering, after N.N.'s post, why wouldn't Daddy post reviews about no-shows? i would think it would be most helpful in ascertaining whether to hire someone or not.

 

perhaps there could be another way to indicate that an escort didn't show for his appointment. just ruminating here, but maybe reviews could be accumulated for the guy, and he could have a running counter of hash marks indicating he didn't show? although as i think more about it, it's starting to sound like a lot more work for Daddy.

 

and that leads me to think, how does Daddy do it? i've wondered about this before. is it a full time endeavor for him? does he have slave boys toiling away in his basement, working hard on review analysis? does he make any money off of this? why DOES he choose to put the effort towards it?

 

damn, i should have had a job tonight, then i wouldnt be thinking so much...

[N.N.]

since i don't review other escorts, i've never had to write to Daddy about a no-show. and i've never, EVER been a no-show, so i've never had to worry about being written about that way. but i am now wondering, after N.N.'s post, why wouldn't Daddy post reviews about no-shows? i would think it would be most helpful in ascertaining whether to hire someone or not.

 

The FAQ says 'In general we look at these on a case-by-case basis. In general we "Hold" these type of reviews because if [sic] is very difficult to verify this type of situation.'

 

I read that and it sounded strange to me. Why are no-shows any more difficult to verify than any other kind of review?

 

So I asked Daddy why he chose not to post my review in this particular case (I'm a known reviewer, why would verification be an issue), and he said he wanted to hold no-shows until he saw a pattern. That may (or may not) be an OK policy, but it is not quite the same issue as the "difficult to verify" rationale given in the FAQ.

 

Daddy also told me that has been the policy since the Hooboy days, which does not square with my experience (I remember seeing more no-show reviews early on, and I wrote a no-show review years ago that went up with no trouble). From that, and from the way I got a different answer depending on whether I read the FAQ or asked Daddy personally, I have to wonder what the real reason is.

 

Getting back to the original topic of this thread (fabricated reviews)-- I used to speak up when I saw a review that was suspect, but the response was "who cares". Neither the management nor people responding in the forums seemed to mind very much that phony reviews went up.

 

I agree with Dave that no-show reviews are most helpful. I think they should be given the same priority as any other review. However, the policy here is that a phony "review" from a first-time reviewer can get posted, but a no-show review (even from a 10-year veteran of this site) gets shelved.

[uwsman2]

no-shows

 

I agree that no-show reviews should go up. That would certainly be helpful to me in deciding whether to invest time and effort in setting up an appointment with an escort.

 

On the other hand, I understand Daddy's point about difficulty of verification. It would be so easy for an escort who wants to cut into a competitor's business to submit a no-show review about his competitor, and then turn it into a "he said, he said" situation when Daddy tries to verify. At least when Daddy receives a review from somebody who is writing about a session that took place, when Daddy contacts the escort who confirms details from the write-up, there is some sense that the session actually took place and the review is genuine.

 

But then again, this entire site really has to run on trust, and we all have to keep in mind that lots of what people say about the actual escort sessions they have had is filtered through their own perceptions, and two people taking part in the same event can come away with startlingly different impressions of what happened.