how do you handle bfe?

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[JoeyBryant]

I use the acronym BFE simply because its a common name given for the type of activities involved. By using a commonly known word, it just makes it easier to describe the services. By no means am I suggesting a 'sugar daddy' or someone who I expect to be my boyfriend and hire me on a weekly basis. Afterall, I'm just too wild to settle down

 

I really dont even use the term boyfriend experience. I dont say, "would you like to have a BFE tonight?" Its just something to put down on writing. But there really is a difference between boyfriend experience and just getting fucked. Some really enjoy the foreplay, the 'tantric foreplay'...and that involves more work, which tends to cost more. There's more energy, thought and preparation on my part than dropping my pants and slipping on a rubber.

[NYTomcat]

I use the acronym BFE simply because its a common name given for the type of activities involved. By using a commonly known word, it just makes it easier to describe the services. By no means am I suggesting a 'sugar daddy' or someone who I expect to be my boyfriend and hire me on a weekly basis. Afterall, I'm just too wild to settle down

 

I really dont even use the term boyfriend experience. I dont say, "would you like to have a BFE tonight?" Its just something to put down on writing. But there really is a difference between boyfriend experience and just getting fucked. Some really enjoy the foreplay, the 'tantric foreplay'...and that involves more work, which tends to cost more. There's more energy, thought and preparation on my part than dropping my pants and slipping on a rubber.

 

Thank you Joey I think you just clarified for me the disconnect that I was looking for. When I originally posted it was in response to some other posters who claimed that you could get the BFE from the right escorts even in a short time and that longer encounters were not needed. Now I know I overthink these things but hey... thats what forums like this are for IMHO. But Joey you hit on the difference of what I define as BFE (friends+) and what those other posters were talking about.

 

BFE #1

Joey talks about the BFE as needing planning and more work but it relies on the idea of "tantric foreplay". I'll redefine a bit. Its an encounter that has an underlying element of a romantic an even erotic nature. not just a fuck-a-thon. OK so it doesn't have real connection but it simulates an almost date like seduction and maybe romantic foreplay

 

BFE #2 (Friends+)

This I think does require a longer commitment. Since my posts a number of others have commented on their long running associations with various escorts. These are the BFE that I look for. These don't simulate connection, they have connection. The escort knows your likes in and out of the bedroom. They know your foibles your worries and you know theirs. You have spent enough time together you know what foods they like, what times of day you are "active" They know what cologne you where and again you know theirs. SEX has an intimacy bred from common knowledge of the other person. maybe even caring or a bond built over time. You may not be in a romantic relationship but you have a relationship with the escort, even if its just a professional one (or maybe more). THEY KNOW YOU and VICE VERSA

 

SO once again I find the term BFE whole unsuited or at least limiting. Cause while I agree that the right escort can produce the feelings or caring in a short time, They can not produce #2 without the time and money that a client needs to invest in getting to the place to have the experience.

[JoeyBryant]

Thank you Joey I think you just clarified for me the disconnect that I was looking for. .

 

Can you clarify for me...I'm not sure if you are actually thanking me forreal or are you disagreeing with me?

 

After reading #2...Im just a bit confused. But, if you are disagreeing with me, I have to disagree that you have to know every little detail about your client in order to provide a true boyfriend experience. Here's why:

 

The boyfriend experience is just that, an experience. What you mentioned is something that develops overtime regardless. In addition, I did not mean to imply that a BFE is something that is faked or simulated as you suggested. Chemistry can happen regardless whether its a 1 night stand or a long term relationship.

 

Simply stated, boyfriend experience IMO anyway, is the things that are included during that particular appointment. Dinner, kissing, meaningful conversation, extended time together...bareback (not! totally kidding) are some things involved in a BFE. Not every client likes to kiss, not every client wants to take their escort into a public setting. It needn't go beyond into each other's personal life. All the things you mentioned about knowing likes and dislikes inside the bedroom is something thats discussed prior to a booking anyhow. Thats not personal life.

 

Picking up on someone's mood, emotions, and smell of cologne can all be done with a non BFE also. Again, nothing earth-shattering about knowing those either. It can be done with or without BFE, and I prefer to do so (and I love the smell of a good cologne on a man!)

 

I know sometimes it seems like I don't know what Im talking about, but if you'd let me explain...you'll see I know where Im going and not just talking out of my ass here.

[NYTomcat]

No I'm thanking you for real Joey. You were the firts poster who made me realize the difference of what I see when I talk BFE and what many others do. I agree the BFE can gain a certain amount of connection and comfort and that the right escort can produce that quickly in the first hire. In fact I was that lucky my first time out. But I hired for an ON. It didnt take that long but it was clearly not an hour or two scenario.

 

I agree that connection can build fast, but other posters seemed to suggest they can get that in an hour session or at worst two. for me at least, two hours doesn't get the connection enough to even leave time for SEX. So To an extent I am disagreeing in that the longer the time and the more repeated the better/stronger the connection gets and the better/stonger the BFE gets.

 

But I was thanking you for real and I do believe you do know what your talking about. Thanks Really No Shit. PS any friend of LEOWalkers is a friend of mine ;-)

 

Can you clarify for me...I'm not sure if you are actually thanking me forreal or are you disagreeing with me?

 

After reading #2...Im just a bit confused. But, if you are disagreeing with me, I have to disagree that you have to know every little detail about your client in order to provide a true boyfriend experience. Here's why:

 

The boyfriend experience is just that, an experience. What you mentioned is something that develops overtime regardless. In addition, I did not mean to imply that a BFE is something that is faked or simulated as you suggested. Chemistry can happen regardless whether its a 1 night stand or a long term relationship.

 

Simply stated, boyfriend experience IMO anyway, is the things that are included during that particular appointment. Dinner, kissing, meaningful conversation, extended time together...bareback (not! totally kidding) are some things involved in a BFE. Not every client likes to kiss, not every client wants to take their escort into a public setting. It needn't go beyond into each other's personal life. All the things you mentioned about knowing likes and dislikes inside the bedroom is something thats discussed prior to a booking anyhow. Thats not personal life.

 

Picking up on someone's mood, emotions, and smell of cologne can all be done with a non BFE also. Again, nothing earth-shattering about knowing those either. It can be done with or without BFE, and I prefer to do so (and I love the smell of a good cologne on a man!)

 

I know sometimes it seems like I don't know what Im talking about, but if you'd let me explain...you'll see I know where Im going and not just talking out of my ass here.

[JoeyBryant]

But I was thanking you for real and I do believe you do know what your talking about. Thanks Really No Shit. PS any friend of LEOWalkers is a friend of mine ;-)

 

LOL, my sincere apologies then for misinterpreting you. By the way, I happen to enjoy BFEs. I actually like having to put more thought and energy into an appt. A BFE can be alot easier anyhow than going from rush hour traffic to bouncing from the ceiling in under 3 minutes flat LOL. Sometimes I have to let people know, just give me a minute...can I have a drink or something first, so I can acclimate myself to your presense LOL.

[NYTomcat]

LOL, my sincere apologies then for misinterpreting you. By the way, I happen to enjoy BFEs. I actually like having to put more thought and energy into an appt. A BFE can be alot easier anyhow than going from rush hour traffic to bouncing from the ceiling in under 3 minutes flat LOL. Sometimes I have to let people know, just give me a minute...can I have a drink or something first, so I can acclimate myself to your presense LOL.

 

LMAO. Oh forgive me but that is funny. Trust me, hiring an attorney isn't far off. I often feel Im hired just to fuck somebody for someone else. I must admit clients today tend to walk through the door and the question is "hey I am paying by the hour when does screwing the other guy begin. I haven't got all day you know." It would seem our jobs have more in common than we realize.

 

The funny thing is I spoke of LEOWALKER Before. Yes our absent poster. OK everybody on here knows by now I have my favorite. Hell Ive often posted of being escort monogamous. LOL mainly for the BFE#2 experience I mentioned above. That said, Leo is the king of connection if ever Ive met one and I haven't even had the good fortune to meet him yet. The one time he was here in NY. I was in florida (where he sometimes lives the nomad) That said, LEO, knowing my interest has spent numerous times sending emails and getting to know me. By the time we actually meet hell its gonna be like old home week with a good friend. as soon as I can get him back across the pond. Last I heard it was Paris or Amsterdam. He is truly the courtesan BFE #2 escort that I like. Jeez I guess my escort monogamy is gonna come to an end sooner than I thought. LOL Hey Romann you did say branch out.

[Guest DrBeaverboy]

I can do a BFE on a first date with some guys, but not with others. Let me try to explain...

 

As some have already pointed out, BFE is a different realm from just out & out fucking. To me, BFE implies a kind of intimacy that you're rarely gonna get if you're hooking up with someone just to fuck. At least for me this implies a difference in activities to some extent -- I can enjoy the hell out of fucking someone's brains out and never kiss them throughout the date. That's just fine. But the date takes on an entirely different mood if you do the things like kissing, caressing, massaging, sensual licking, cuddling.

 

I think it's possible to connect heart-to-heart, on that "BFE" level with anyone... but a lot of us aren't used to feeling those things. Or sometimes we're not in the mood. So... if I'm with someone who wants to go there and feel that way on a first date, then sure, we can go there -- and it's usually a very pleasurable experience for both parties. But for other guys it takes them a while to warm up to that kind of experience.

[NYTomcat]

I can do a BFE on a first date with some guys, but not with others. Let me try to explain...

 

As some have already pointed out, BFE is a different realm from just out & out fucking. To me, BFE implies a kind of intimacy that you're rarely gonna get if you're hooking up with someone just to fuck. At least for me this implies a difference in activities to some extent -- I can enjoy the hell out of fucking someone's brains out and never kiss them throughout the date. That's just fine. But the date takes on an entirely different mood if you do the things like kissing, caressing, massaging, sensual licking, cuddling.

 

I think it's possible to connect heart-to-heart, on that "BFE" level with anyone... but a lot of us aren't used to feeling those things. Or sometimes we're not in the mood. So... if I'm with someone who wants to go there and feel that way on a first date, then sure, we can go there -- and it's usually a very pleasurable experience for both parties. But for other guys it takes them a while to warm up to that kind of experience.

 

You got it doc. That's me. I like my connections I Like romannce (the extra n on purpose) . I like to know the people im with and feel like we are sharing an intimate experience. That is what works for me. Its why im not calling every escort in Manhattan. I have my connections and for some reason they all live in Dallas (at leadt part if the time) Hey Romann and Leo .

[NYTomcat]

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What is bfe???

 

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[Guest DrBeaverboy]

re: what is BFE

 

What is bfe???

 

BFE = Boyfriend experience.

 

Similar to the "Girlfriend experience" offered by female escorts.

 

The other responses to this thread ought to clue you in to what makes a BFE different than perhaps a more "typical" experience with an escort.