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I was browsing guys in London and came across this guy who I seem to recognise from porn and was immediately drawn to the pictures. Then I read the profile text:

 

http://www.rentboy.com/listing.aspx?lid=138829&scid=36215578&sp=1&pos=6

 

To be honest I'm not even interested in him cumming so the extra charge wouldn't apply, but the fact he operates like that puts me off completely.

 

Is this a common thing for guys to do?

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Schedule of fees

 

I was browsing guys in London and came across this guy who I seem to recognise from porn and was immediately drawn to the pictures. Then I read the profile text:

 

http://www.rentboy.com/listing.aspx?lid=138829&scid=36215578&sp=1&pos=6

 

To be honest I'm not even interested in him cumming so the extra charge wouldn't apply, but the fact he operates like that puts me off completely.

 

Is this a common thing for guys to do?

 

I always make it clear that I expect to see the guy cum - it's an important part of the experience for me. I don't remember anyone ever charging extra explicitly - although one very well-regarded traveling escort on this board did tell me that he doesn't cum for one-hour appointments. I had already decided on a 2-hr appointment, so it wasn't an issue, but I can see where traveling escorts who have to recoup high costs through more appointments might feel justified in this.

The other thing that bothers me about the ad referred to here is the charge for each 10 minutes over the hour - I would feel like the taxi meter is running! I remember a review of Talvin DeMachio by a gay publication years ago that referenced this fee schedule. I have no idea if he continued with that practice, but I would never hire under those cirumstances. For me, it really rubs it in your face that it's all about the $$.

If a session runs over, I tip generously.

 

The openly positive thing I can say about this ad is that he is upfront about it, rather than bringing it up once the session has begun. He certainly has the right to set whatever fees & conditions he wants - and we have the right to hire or not hire under those terms.

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First time I have heard of this and so I don't think it is very common. However I don't see anything wrong with him spelling it out up front so it is clear. Personally I am fine with it and don't see it as much different than some escorts who I have seen that charge different rates for topping and bottoming. Taken to an extreme we might see an escort one day with a full menu. Dry kissing is $x dollars, French is $y, etc.

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I have seen just such a menu from an escort in London. Not surprisingly, he did not last long!

 

As another poster said, escorts have the right to make whatever charges they see fit - and we have the right to book them or not.

 

When a "bisexual" escort such as this one makes his charges so explicit it is likely to rob the occasion of any spontaneity and it gives the impression the escort is somewhat unwilling to provide the services.

 

Having said that, not all escorts are very good at framing their ads. There is always the chance the guy is really friendly and good at his job. However, I would want to see some positive reviews from trusted people before I went near anyone with an ad like that!

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Cum If You Wish...

 

I would never hire a guy who charged extra to cum. That said, I don't insist cumming as a prerequisite for the guys I hire. I prefer to see a sex partner shoot his wad naturally because he is sexually charged-up, having a kick-ass time and genuinely wants to cum--and not just because I have pre-ordered him to do so. If he doesn't shoot the juice, I don't get upset or take it personally. Realistically, how could a working dude be expected to blast his cum cannon for every single client, every single appointment and not get burnt-out? When a hot escort does spew his big load of jizz for me, he will always be rewarded with a more generous gratuity.

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Price of cum

 

This post has spurred an idea for my putting away money for hiring....Each time I cum, wether alone of in company, I will put $20 in my piggy. This should provide enough cast to hire regularly....Unless I'm economizing and stop enjoying myself.

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non-sense

 

Just don't hire him. I hate when guys who think they are hot(I don't find him hot) can get away with this non-sense. :mad:

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What a moron...

 

Of course, he has also blown his "cover" that he is charging for his "time only." 40 pounds for a load of cum sounds a lot like an act of prostitution to me. I can only hope that he is advertising in a place where prostitution is legal.

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Of course, he has also blown his "cover" that he is charging for his "time only." 40 pounds for a load of cum sounds a lot like an act of prostitution to me. I can only hope that he is advertising in a place where prostitution is legal.

 

He is. In Britain, working as a prostitute in private is legal, both incalls and outcalls.

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Another well reviewed escort porn star also has the "overtime" charges...his first response email to me had the message that for each 15 min over the hour it was a certain amount. And this was already several years ago when he was charging $300/hr......it was a turn off for me, but I was new to this so went thru with the appointment, which was fine but no fire works...he did make sure I leave within the hour though, and I think that was my last time hiring someone with that rate or that type of response email.....LIve and learn.

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He is. In Britain, working as a prostitute in private is legal, both incalls and outcalls.

 

 

Not so. Prostitution (aka escorting) remains illegal in the UK. The police simply choose not to prosecute it if it is indoors and private.

 

The police continue to prosecute sex-workers, male and female, on the street. They also do raid and arrest participants in group sex parties, homosexual and heterosexual, from time to time, tho they are mainly concerned with "commercial" parties that charge for participation.

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The other side of the coin is that many guys show up and later say that they cannot cum. Tired, hungry,etc. Perhaps just saving themselves for a later client. In that context perhaps it is more honest to charge extra. At least you know where you stand.

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How does it work

 

There seems to be some supposition that for a sum of money, the escort will be able to cum..or does it work that if he does cum he charges. If I were to contract for cum, is that enough to make it happen....what does he do if he has 3 clients in a row wanting it....or does the financial charge limit the amount of times he needs to give it up....Also cna I just get the Cum to go for 20.....

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Gives a whole new meaning to a la carte!

 

He also said, "I may ask you to book a cab for me on http://www.xxxxxxxxxx.com and pay with your credit card. The cab fee will not be deducted from the outcall rate. Despite of being a bit strict on the rates, I am very friendly and talkative."

 

So not only are his fees a la carte, but you'll also be his travel agent booking his taxi! Oh, and by the way, TRANSPORTATION AT ADDITIONAL COST.

 

Then the ultimate FLASHING RED SIGN: "Despite of being a bit strict on the rates, I am very friendly and talkative."

 

Does that mean he's going to work 'overtime' so the extra charges will accumulate?

 

Nuh-uh!

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The Legality of Prostitution in England and Wales

 

Not so. Prostitution (aka escorting) remains illegal in the UK. The police simply choose not to prosecute it if it is indoors and private.

 

I stand by my remarks. I suspect that your misconception may not be uncommon. Having lived and worked in London for several years, until last spring, I can assure you that I made certain that I was well versed in the applicable laws of the land. My comment was that "in Britain, working as a prostitute in private is legal, both incalls and outcalls" and this comment was made in the context of discussing an escort advertising in London on Rentboy. It is not the case that "the police simply choose not to prosecute if it is indoors and private."

 

The laws in existence pertaining to prostitution in England and Wales are:

 

1) It is illegal to loiter or solicit in a public place for the purposes of prostitution.

2) It is illegal for a potential client to solicit in a public place or from a motor vehicle.

3) Keeping a brothel is illegal.

4) Pimping, or controlling others for the purposes of prostitution is illegal.

5) Escort agencies are illegal where the agency is controlling the escorts.

6) Child prostitution is illegal.

 

These being the only relevant laws, working as an independent prostitute from your own home, and offering outcall prostitution services via print and online advertisements, such as all of the men offering their services on Rentboy, Gaydar etc., is currently 100% legal in England and Wales. Hence, although some guys do include disclaimers in their ads, there is no real legal reason for working guys to keep up the pretence that they are charging for their time only. The relative liberalism of British law in this respect has helped to attract prostitutes to London from all over the world to the point that the market for working guys has now become supersaturated. By the same token, being the client of an independent prostitute working in private is also perfectly legal.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom#England_and_Wales

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Guest LatinoRican

Could not care less...

 

Most sauna boys in Rio will ask for more $$$ if you want them to cum. In the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Mexico, Costa Rica, and other places that I've been, it's not an issue and everybody gets off with nothing extra added on. But, in reality, I could not care less if the "escort" gets off or not. I do not pay for THEM to have a good time with me. They get their good time when they spend their money on a new shirt or sneakers, or shack up with some woman later on....

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