What can I expect from an erotic massage??

[ozdean]

Hi guys,

 

Wondering if someone can fill me in on erotic massages. I am in the process of booking a really hot looking guy in Sydney, Australia for an erotic massage. I have hired numerous male escorts before but have never had an erotic massge. I stumbled across this guys ad on a massage website. I am into really muscly guys and love muscle worship. This guy looks to have a killer body. I have contacted him by phone and have set up a tentative appointment. He has indicated that it is ok for me to rub some oil into him and that he will flex for me. Obviously he will give me a massage as well. What else should I expect? I apologise but I am a little naive and ignorant. What does release mean? Can I assume that it is me cumming at the end? Appreciate any guys feedback, experiences etc.

 

Thanks

[josephga]

erotic massage varies from masseur to masseur. release means a hand job at the end. normally your un draped. the masseurs nude to in most erotic massages. some allow mutual touching some don't. some will provide a prostate massage most won't. some are certified in massage most are not.. oral and anal isn't part of a real erotic massage, regardless some offer it most wont. best thing is ask the masseurs whats their definition of erotic massage and whats off limits.

[+ beethoven]

what to expect from erotic massage

 

I agree with josephga, the previous post. You should know that some masseurs who use the word "erotic" in their ad, such as Bangkok Boy in NYC, on M4M (I reviewed him favorably, but noted that his Thai massage isn't erotic at all), won't even undress in front of you, nor will they let you touch them. And a release is out of the question. So why would they call it erotic? Totally misleading.

Some who give erotic massages, such as Pierre, in NYC, who used to be one of my favorites, will no longer allow clients to suck their dick. Pierre now charges $190/hour, and for that price, I expect more than he allows. I'll probably continue to see him, but less often.

To me, an erotic massage should include caressing and cuddling, lots of body-to-body contact, lots of mutual touching, certainly a release, and oral, though not anal. I think that anal exploration (prostate massage would be great!) with a finger or two ought to be included, but wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me.

You really have to ask first.

[+ newatthis]

...Wondering if someone can fill me in on erotic massages...

If you do a search here, you ought to find lots of discussion of this question. Bottom line (as several replies have already mentioned) is that it depends on many factors, including the mood of the masseur and his chemistry with you at the moment. Because of that, and because many masseurs would be reluctant to be very explicit on the phone or in email with a new client, the answer you get to a straightforward question might be far from the whole story. I'd agree with a previous poster that a hand job ("release") is almost always included.

[ozdean]

Thanks guys, appreciate your feedback.

[Alan]

Have had appointments with numerous guys who advertise erotic massages and there has been a wide range of service. Most won't comment much in e-mail or on the phone when I press for more specifics. So it really is a gamble. The touching during the massage for most erotic massages includes more butt work, some additional attention to the dick and balls, and more work on the nips. I've had prostate work and even a fuck or two, but mostly I don't expect either. It's nice if it happens! More frequently it includes oral, less frequently both ways. More touching the goods. Some advertise "starting at" and those are more likely to cost more but can include "extra" like oral and anal. And those guys are more willing to discuss those services on the phone or in e-mail. Almost always an erotic massage includes jacking off the client to climax.

[doitb4ugo]

My experience

 

I started my "gay" sexual exploration only a few months ago by sampling a good number of "sensual" or "erotic" massages. I thought at the time that there would be a wider range of experiences than I actually enjoyed even though I really enjoyed the massages. I did not find one masseur willing to describe his "services" prior to meeting. Most e-mailed me definition statements on massage types.

 

While I definely enjoyed my sessions with most of the masseurs, I was for me an unsatisfying experience...you have a massage to get relaxed followed by a handjob to get you excited....the 2 did not seem to go so well together. I also did not like that the person massaged is in a completely "passive" situation while the masseur is really in charge/control.

 

I found a couple of masseurs who incorporated some amount of body to body contact which I very much enjoyed. All this was complicated for me by never being sure what I was or was not allowed to do...without knowing the boundaries left me doing very little for fear of "insulting" the masseur.

 

I now will visit a sensual masseur but am more interested in getting the best massage possible.

[josephga]

the best clients in my past experiences are those who get on the table leave all their worry's at the door and totally relax and allow themselves to receive touch without the obligation of having to offer anything in return. some people don't know how to do that because normally in life people are told that its selfish to receive and not give back. massage is one of those times when its not expected. I personally was always blunt with the clients on what was offered and my boundaries as well as theirs. I never wanted any misunderstanding because once the client was on the table i ran the show. That's why i think its important for clients to ask question. normally they would say tell me about your massage, id say you have 2 choices therapeutic only or therapeutic sensual combination. if they asked if i was nude id say if requested, if they asked if there was a release id say its full body.. or id say no comment. id all so tell them that there was no oral or anal contact. id tell them i used cream, no oil, shower b4 or after offered, id mention i specialized in gluts and legs.. that got me lots of clients.

[+ nycman]

Massages for me are one of the best things in life.

 

My "regulars" are the guys who are great massage therapists

first, and nice looking/erotic second.

 

My current favorite, wasn't always my favorite. I was usually

fidgety at the start and he is a control freak. It was a bad combo,

but his technique was amazing, so I'd see him once in a while.

 

His massages were excellent, but I always left feeling uptight.

 

Finally I got up the guts to say something. I told him how much

I loved his technique but somehow it always felt like we were

wrestling. Just to be clear, I'm not a big "toucher" during the

massage, so that wasn't the problem. I just wasn't able to

fully relax with him. Funny thing was he felt the same way.

 

He came up with the idea that maybe we should get the erotic

part over at the beginning so I could relax and enjoy the rest of

the massage. He said he was hesitant to say anything before

because most guys would assume he was trying to get them

off and out the door. We tried it, and I quickly realized that we

had found the right combination that made us both very happy.

 

I was calm and relaxed and he got a compliant body to work on.

 

Since then, he's gone from being on my "good but not great"

list, to my current favorite. The take home message is, if he's a

nice guy, with a good technique, keep working on it until you

find a rhythm that works for you both.

[josephga]

i use to have a guy that got 2 massages a week and always got the release over first. he had like 5 masseurs that he really liked allot. I would see him twice in a week then not again for another month as he made his rounds lol

[LookingAround]

Care to share his name?

 

Massages for me are one of the best things in life.

 

My "regulars" are the guys who are great massage therapists

first, and nice looking/erotic second.

 

My current favorite, wasn't always my favorite. I was usually

fidgety at the start and he is a control freak. It was a bad combo,

but his technique was amazing, so I'd see him once in a while.

 

His massages were excellent, but I always left feeling uptight.

 

Finally I got up the guts to say something. I told him how much

I loved his technique but somehow it always felt like we were

wrestling. Just to be clear, I'm not a big "toucher" during the

massage, so that wasn't the problem. I just wasn't able to

fully relax with him. Funny thing was he felt the same way.

 

He came up with the idea that maybe we should get the erotic

part over at the beginning so I could relax and enjoy the rest of

the massage. He said he was hesitant to say anything before

because most guys would assume he was trying to get them

off and out the door. We tried it, and I quickly realized that we

had found the right combination that made us both very happy.

 

I was calm and relaxed and he got a compliant body to work on.

 

Since then, he's gone from being on my "good but not great"

list, to my current favorite. The take home message is, if he's a

nice guy, with a good technique, keep working on it until you

find a rhythm that works for you both.

[+ newatthis]

...for me an unsatisfying experience...you have a massage to get relaxed followed by a handjob to get you excited...

It's different for me. The sensuality of the massage itself gets me excited in the sexual sense, even as it's relaxing me. That sounds paradoxical, I know.

...All this was complicated for me by never being sure what I was or was not allowed to do...without knowing the boundaries left me doing very little for fear of "insulting" the masseur...

Most of the masseurs I've tried are not insulted by anything I did or suggested; they just let me know in a nice way that I was going someplace they didn't want to go.

[+ beethoven]

what to expect

 

If doitb4ugo wants "the best massage possible," he will probably get that from someone who does NOT advertise "erotic" massage. Of course, one can't generalize, but in my experience, most "erotic" masseurs haven't gone to school, such as The Swedish Institute, and don't give a really good, genuine massage. I prefer erotic massages, and I'm willing to forgo the real thing in favor of erotic stimulation -- which most "legit" masseurs won't do.

Some of my best expectations turned out to be duds, and some of my reluctant choices turned out to be wonderful, and I've continued to see these masseurs regularly. You win some and you lose some, just like anything else in life. Again, even if a masseur is misleading in his ads, he will usually be up front and candid on the phone. Ya gotta ask!

[ozdean]

Danny30 is his name. Check his ad on massagem4m in the Sydney (Australia section). He looks magnificent. Have spoken with him a few times on the phone. Apparently reading his reviews he has worked in New York. Does anyone know anything about him?

[justaguy]

I fully agree. If a masseur lists erotic as one of the choices, you really need to check out his training if you want anything close to a good massage. It's not easy getting both.

[EXPAT]

This is what you can expect from an erotic massage

 

An ideal erotic massage:

 

[ncc1701d]

My experience has been more of a hand job at the end, with a few who can incorporate the sensual elements along the way and built it up till the end. A select few are intuitive and perfectly position his goods at just the right spots, and only a few have progressed to oral. None have really done the body contact thing (except Pan in SF) which I love. So I've scaled back this kind of hiring a lot and only do so if the guy has a smoking body and reasonable rates, since you never know, as others have mentioned, how good their actual massage skills are, and how far they go on the phone or email. I'm now more of the mindset that if I want more (kissing, body contact), I go for escorts.

[josephga]

I fully agree. If a masseur lists erotic as one of the choices, you really need to check out his training if you want anything close to a good massage. It's not easy getting both.

 

I agree people should always ask about training and if in doubt ask to see proof those who are really certified wont be insulted. I use to keep mine in a frame on a table near my massage table. I would have guys call that didn't want the therapeutic at all and i always passed them on to someone else. imo a massage without the therapeutic elements are a waste of money. Another massage therapist told me once that he would get guys that didn't even care if the massage was any good or not, they would get on his table get a quick rub down and a jerk off and out the door in under 30 minutes... i refused those types..

[Guest OCBeachbody]

As many of the previous guys have wrote... it does depend. It does very from masseur to masseur, as well as from country to country (in the US officially...it can vary from city to city depending on local laws).

 

Full release should always mean that there is cumming involved. Best bet is always to ask the masseur upfront for details for his massage. Don't be afraid

to ask what exactly he stimulate... medical speaking that would include any of the erogenous zone on your body. If you looking for something more like muscle worship, etc.... some people are willing to accommodate. Never be afraid to ask.

[doitb4ugo]

Thanks ncc1701d, I wish this had been my reply. This comes very close to my experience, as little as that is. It also provides a more helpful response to this thread. I'm learning along with many of the other newbies here.

 

 

My experience has been more of a hand job at the end, with a few who can incorporate the sensual elements along the way and built it up till the end. A select few are intuitive and perfectly position his goods at just the right spots, and only a few have progressed to oral. None have really done the body contact thing (except Pan in SF) which I love. So I've scaled back this kind of hiring a lot and only do so if the guy has a smoking body and reasonable rates, since you never know, as others have mentioned, how good their actual massage skills are, and how far they go on the phone or email. I'm now more of the mindset that if I want more (kissing, body contact), I go for escorts.

[Guest funnyguy]

I’ve been getting these types of massages for ten months now and I’ve never had a conversation with a masseur about what he does or doesn’t do. The only requests I’ve made are of the therapeutic sort. As far as the erotic, I like it to happen organically. I just let it go wherever the masseur takes it based on our energy together. And I haven’t been disappointed yet. I’ve gotten many hand jobs, but also blown, 69nd and fucked one. But what I mostly want is to be touched and cared for by someone who acts like he enjoys touching me and can give a good, quality massage. The rest is icing on the cake. And having fewer expectations make for fewer disappointments.

[+ Italiano]

I just got a massage here in Helsinki by this superhot Viking huge guy, straight as an arrow. Tall, handsome, supermasculine, very muscular, shaved.

It was a professional one, so I even kept my undies on. He of course had t-shirt and shorts, which showed part of his fantastic legs and arms and shaped his beautiful torso and ass.

 

I have to say that it was one of the best pro massage I have ever got, he is also a chiropractic so he handled and worked my body like a piece of dough with his huge and strong hands, and made me feel as a new man.

 

While I was laying down on the table I was fantasizing about him suddendly putting his big hand inside my briefs and me beginning to feel his fantastic body with my hands, but I had to kick out that image immediately because I was beginning to get hard...

I tried in a VEEEERY subtle way to slightly touch his body with my "dead" arms and hands or to make my little hardon just a bit evident.

He went on like nothing had happened, in a very professional way.

 

Of course nothing happened, but I loved my massage and also the little fantasy going on for a few minutes!

[Rod Hagen]

some will provide a prostate massage most won't..

 

So do your research! :-)

[Rod Hagen]

I fully agree. If a masseur lists erotic as one of the choices, you really need to check out his training if you want anything close to a good massage. It's not easy getting both.

 

And DO YOUR RESEARCH: Some of us are professional masseurs who just happen to be erotic too. Bonus for yoU!!

[justaguy]

Professional masseurs who do erotic: the ones I look for, the hardest to find. When I do, though, the bonus is worth the search :-).