Do the best escorts lack a conscience?

[Guest gaybor]

They have to have sexual relations with all kinds of people, people that are old, fat, and ugly,people that are cheating on their wives, partners, etc.They have to believe that they are worth 200 or more for an hour of their time, to basically, give them a blow job.That requires a certain amount of unhealthy narcissism, does It not?

If I was an escort, which I know I never could or would be,I know that to be able to not develop some sort of connection or feelings for any of these men that are showering me with attention, gifts, money, compliments, etc, I would have to lack a soul, because there is NO WAY I could keep seeing these people and NOT CARE that they have a family, or they have feelings for me, or that they admire me, or, for some reason, put me on a pedestal.

I could NEVER pretend to be into these people for the money. And I never would.

What say you?

[NYTomcat]

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[Guest TBinCHI]

The Sorcerer's Stone

 

There's a troll in the castle, gentleman. Methinks we should not feed him.

[+ ArVaGuy]

There's a troll in the castle, gentleman. Methinks we should not feed him.

 

Good point.

 

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[NYTomcat]

I bow to your example TB, ARVA

[Boston Guy]

Well, it's possible that the OP is a troll. On the other hand, he might well be someone who is just thinking about hiring escorts and dealing with many of the questions and issues that confront most of us when first considering the possibility of hiring an escort.

 

To the OP: I'll take on your question with the assumption that it's a genuine question.

 

The short answer to your simple question ("Do the best escorts lack a conscience?") is "No." Few of us indeed are totally lacking in a conscience and I'd include most escorts in that. However, many of us make compromises in ethical or moral judgments depending upon our goals and desires.

 

Indeed, there is a large portion of the population that considers hiring an escort to be a moral abomination. Others consider hiring a younger escort equivalent to child abuse. So one could ask the question "Do the best clients lack a conscience?" The answer to that question is also "No", in my opinion. Instead, clients who have hired escorts have discovered that, in fact, the relationship between escort and client is complicated and very human. It's true that it's fraught with possibilities for abuse on both sides but it very often works out that each person ends up with pretty much what they were looking for.

 

I've met many escorts who were basically college kids who learned that they could make some fairly easy and quick money by escorting. They made the leap, felt very -- very! -- strange about it at first and then discovered that it was something they could do. That doesn't require a lack of conscience. Instead, it requires one to shed certain preconceived notions (i.e., "sex with an older guy is awful") and replace them with actual knowledge borne of experience.

 

Certainly there are escorts who lack a conscience, just as there are lawyers, scientists and doctors who lack a conscience. But the best escorts, I think, are the ones who are able to connect with many people and find something good in every client, who are able to find something desirable or attractive in most people. Rather than a deficit, that's a strength and a gift.

[+ Lucky]

Even if he is NOT a troll, he is clearly on the wrong website. By now he should realize that his question was very ill-advised.

Boston Guy does us no favors not to express some ground rules for making an inquiry here.

[Guest TBinCHI]

Well, it's possible that the OP is a troll. On the other hand, he might well be someone who is just thinking about hiring escorts and dealing with many of the questions and issues that confront most of us when first considering the possibility of hiring an escort.

 

To the OP: I'll take on your question with the assumption that it's a genuine question.

 

The short answer to your simple question ("Do the best escorts lack a conscience?") is "No." Few of us indeed are totally lacking in a conscience and I'd include most escorts in that. However, many of us make compromises in ethical or moral judgments depending upon our goals and desires.

 

Indeed, there is a large portion of the population that considers hiring an escort to be a moral abomination. Others consider hiring a younger escort equivalent to child abuse. So one could ask the question "Do the best clients lack a conscience?" The answer to that question is also "No", in my opinion. Instead, clients who have hired escorts have discovered that, in fact, the relationship between escort and client is complicated and very human. It's true that it's fraught with possibilities for abuse on both sides but it very often works out that each person ends up with pretty much what they were looking for.

 

I've met many escorts who were basically college kids who learned that they could make some fairly easy and quick money by escorting. They made the leap, felt very -- very! -- strange about it at first and then discovered that it was something they could do. That doesn't require a lack of conscience. Instead, it requires one to shed certain preconceived notions (i.e., "sex with an older guy is awful") and replace them with actual knowledge borne of experience.

 

Certainly there are escorts who lack a conscience, just as there are lawyers, scientists and doctors who lack a conscience. But the best escorts, I think, are the ones who are able to connect with many people and find something good in every client, who are able to find something desirable or attractive in most people. Rather than a deficit, that's a strength and a gift.

 

Great response, Boston Guy, and very similar to my thoughts. However, I think you are overly generous in thinking that gaybor is legit. His first two posts were to start to separate and obviously controversial threads. In both he used incendiary language and conveyed very hostile thoughts and judgments. Let's see what he has in store for his third post!!

[Boston Guy]

Even if he is NOT a troll, he is clearly on the wrong website. By now he should realize that his question was very ill-advised.

Boston Guy does us no favors not to express some ground rules for making an inquiry here.

 

I dunno. The OP sounds young to me. And inexperienced. And reaching out, despite the words he is using to do so.

 

It's easy to be judgmental. I prefer to try to look beyond that and to give people several chances before giving up on them. YMMV.

 

BG

[+ Lucky]

It's not a matter of being judgmental. If this guy was in the Hooville security line, he would have been screened out. Why invite such nastiness into the message center? Several people suggested avoiding him, and that was a good idea.

[Guest RyanCade]

there's a troll in the castle, gentleman. Methinks we should not feed him.

 

agreed!!

[Boston Guy]

Well, of course it's a matter of being judgmental, Lucky, by definition. It involves a judgment. You see it one way while I, for the moment, am reserving judgment. That seems pretty clear to me.

 

I am not saying you are wrong; I'm simply withholding making a judgment at this time and taking the OP's question at face value. In fact, looking at it at face value, I found it to be an interesting question and one that I hadn't considered before.

 

Many people -- most people??? -- know nothing at all about escorts. Their view is the stereotypical view of prostitutes shown on prime-time network TV. This isn't something that's taught in high school. More than a few people have come here over the years seeking information but arriving with preconceived notions that were at times unfortunate. The OP may well be yet another person who is struggling with what can be difficult questions. If so, perhaps we can help him understand a bit about the things he is considering and even perhaps a bit about us and about himself.

 

I don't know. That's why I'm withholding judgment for now.

 

BG

[NYTomcat]

Well, of course it's a matter of being judgmental, Lucky, by definition. It involves a judgment. You see it one way while I, for the moment, am reserving judgment. That seems pretty clear to me.

 

I am not saying you are wrong; I'm simply withholding making a judgment at this time and taking the OP's question at face value. In fact, looking at it at face value, I found it to be an interesting question and one that I hadn't considered before.

 

Many people -- most people??? -- know nothing at all about escorts. Their view is the stereotypical view of prostitutes shown on prime-time network TV. This isn't something that's taught in high school. More than a few people have come here over the years seeking information but arriving with preconceived notions that were at times unfortunate. The OP may well be yet another person who is struggling with what can be difficult questions. If so, perhaps we can help him understand a bit about the things he is considering and even perhaps a bit about us and about himself.

 

I don't know. That's why I'm withholding judgment for now.

 

BG

 

While I agree with the sentiment and I do wholeheartedly. I am finding the second nasty hostile post to be signs of things to come. Perhaps a warning here that future questions if they are questions and not judgements by Gaybor should be at least somewhat toned down so as not to just try and offend both clients and escorts. If his next post is as volatile we will have an answer wont we. I told you on the first thread this guy was gonna be interesting, not good but interesting

[+ glutes]

I concur.

This troll is like TurdBlossomLuver redux.

Ignore the GayBore!

[Guest RyanCade]

Well, of course it's a matter of being judgmental, Lucky, by definition. It involves a judgment. You see it one way while I, for the moment, am reserving judgment. That seems pretty clear to me.

 

I am not saying you are wrong; I'm simply withholding making a judgment at this time and taking the OP's question at face value. In fact, looking at it at face value, I found it to be an interesting question and one that I hadn't considered before.

 

Many people -- most people??? -- know nothing at all about escorts. Their view is the stereotypical view of prostitutes shown on prime-time network TV. This isn't something that's taught in high school. More than a few people have come here over the years seeking information but arriving with preconceived notions that were at times unfortunate. The OP may well be yet another person who is struggling with what can be difficult questions. If so, perhaps we can help him understand a bit about the things he is considering and even perhaps a bit about us and about himself.

 

I don't know. That's why I'm withholding judgment for now.

 

BG

 

I respect you for withholding judgment, however the language and energy behind the approach this gentle spirit has chosen is quit offensive, inappropriate and un nerving. I sense a total lack of respect or genuine interest in our answers and to be honest DANGER!!!! I am confused as to why this thread has not been shut down.

Can the location of the GayBors ip address be disclosed for the safety of his local escorts

[Edward]

I cannot resist answering, Sorry guys

 

Gaybor has no clue. Simply put escorts are entertainers. They help us to escape (their clients) into our fantasy world for an hour, two hours or overnight. And don't we all need this escape once in a while, wheather it is at a movie, ballgame, or hotel room. To the best escorts I solute, to the bad ones please call Gaybor.

[+ glutes]

Maybe he should be GayBoar...

 

http://fi.somethingawful.com/is/img385/6487/boar2b0ft.jpg

[Guest RyanCade]

Well, of course it's a matter of being judgmental, Lucky, by definition. It involves a judgment. You see it one way while I, for the moment, am reserving judgment. That seems pretty clear to me.

 

I am not saying you are wrong; I'm simply withholding making a judgment at this time and taking the OP's question at face value. In fact, looking at it at face value, I found it to be an interesting question and one that I hadn't considered before.

 

Many people -- most people??? -- know nothing at all about escorts. Their view is the stereotypical view of prostitutes shown on prime-time network TV. This isn't something that's taught in high school. More than a few people have come here over the years seeking information but arriving with preconceived notions that were at times unfortunate. The OP may well be yet another person who is struggling with what can be difficult questions. If so, perhaps we can help him understand a bit about the things he is considering and even perhaps a bit about us and about himself.

 

I don't know. That's why I'm withholding judgment for now.

 

BG

 

I respect you for withholding judgment, however the language and energy behind the approach this gentle spirit has chosen is quit offensive, inappropriate and un nerving. I sense a total lack of respect or genuine interest in our answers and to be honest DANGER!!!! I am confused as to why this thread has not been shut down. Is it possible to disclose the location of the users IP address for the safety of his local escorts?

[Boston Guy]

The history of this message center, when taken in conjunction with the one that immediately preceded it (and whose history is available through the search function), is replete with episodes of angry discourse so great and so lengthy that they make the OP's question appear to be words out of the mouth of the proverbial lamb.

 

If the OP is simply trying to start trouble, then that will become apparent in due course. If I might kindly so suggest, the quickest way to encourage such behavior is to respond with inflamed reactions.

 

It's possible that the OP is just trying to stir things up. If so, responding to his questions quietly and sensibly will eventually help him understand that his tactics won't work, whereas response after response of virtual handwringing are exactly what so-called trolls are seeking. But, as I wrote above, there is the chance that the OP is serious and seeking answers. He may well be inexperienced with forums such as this.

 

If I take his questions seriously and answer him and he is, indeed, just a troll then I've wasted a small amount of my time. On the other hand, if he is perhaps a young man who is troubled and trying to find a way through some issues, then the little time that I spend trying to answer his questions is worth it if he gleans even some small perspective from my response. That's a bet that I'm willing to take right now.

 

Those who feel differently should simply not reply to the OP or any threads that he starts. That's the best way to convince someone to find another venue.

 

BG

[+ Lucky]

One wants to be respectful, both of a new poster's questions, and an old poster's tolerance. It's true that ultimately we can control whatever damage the OP might do, but why allow him a foothold when he starts out with such insulting attacks?

It would be the odd day though that we acted in unison to refuse to feed a troll. There is always someone who wants to take a different approach. So, my kudos to those who asked us to head this off at the start. I think that was the best choice.

[+ deej]

The history of this message center.......

 

Your thoughts pretty much echo my own.

[+ deej]

One wants to be respectful, both of a new poster's questions, and an old poster's tolerance. It's true that ultimately we can control whatever damage the OP might do, but why allow him a foothold when he starts out with such insulting attacks?

 

The insulting was actually pretty mild and I suspect the attacks were mostly in your own mind.

 

To me, the OP sounded like someone not experienced enough to construct a nuanced attack. At various times in my life I've known them by varying names: interns, law students , student teachers....

 

We all grow out of that, sooner or later.

[MsGuy]

His first two posts were to start to separate and obviously controversial threads. In both he used incendiary language and conveyed very hostile thoughts and judgments. Let's see what he has in store for his third post!!

 

And yet by some strange alchemy the OP's other post has morphed into a poignant discussion of a problem that many of us have encountered, so you never know, do you?

 

Consider Glutes that, w/o that ear of Gayboar's, we wouldn't have the silk purse. Let's score it one up and one down and wait for the third post to decide the issue.

[NYTomcat]

They have to have sexual relations with all kinds of people, people that are old, fat, and ugly,people that are cheating on their wives, partners, etc.They have to believe that they are worth 200 or more for an hour of their time, to basically, give them a blow job.That requires a certain amount of unhealthy narcissism, does It not?

If I was an escort, which I know I never could or would be,I know that to be able to not develop some sort of connection or feelings for any of these men that are showering me with attention, gifts, money, compliments, etc, I would have to lack a soul, because there is NO WAY I could keep seeing these people and NOT CARE that they have a family, or they have feelings for me, or that they admire me, or, for some reason, put me on a pedestal.

I could NEVER pretend to be into these people for the money. And I never would.

What say you?

 

The insulting was actually pretty mild and I suspect the attacks were mostly in your own mind.

 

To me, the OP sounded like someone not experienced enough to construct a nuanced attack. At various times in my life I've known them by varying names: interns, law students , student teachers....

 

We all grow out of that, sooner or later.

 

Deej, just my two cents but after his first post and now this one, I have to agree with lucky. This isn't an unnuanced post. The words, the invective are built to be inflammatory. He insults the profession, the escorts, the clients... While I applaud Boston Guy and yourself for trying to see virtues in an unsophisticated argument, Its not what I see at all. So again if it truly is that he wishes to understand and explore, Then tone it down a notch and I think we would all jump right in. In fact we did on his first post under similar language in an attempt to explain. But I think he needs to read his own words more carefully if he truly is looking for answers. Further, he could speak up and clarify. It will be interesting to see his next post.

[Rick Munroe]

What say you?

 

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