A Regular Lowers His Rate

[cmennow]

Not sure if this has come up before, but if one of your regular guys lowers his rate, does that entitle you to pay the lower rate as well?

[Bart]

Entitle?

 

I dont think we are entitled to anything, I mean who are we going to take it up with the people who handle false advertising for escorts.

 

If I were to see that I would first wait to see if the gentleman brings up the next time you meet. If not prior to meeting you may wish to ask what the rate is and then ask about it. I would do so prior to meeting in person politely.

[+ newatthis]

Not sure if this has come up before, but if one of your regular guys lowers his rate, does that entitle you to pay the lower rate as well?

If a regular raises his rate, are we entitled to keep paying the old rate? Along the same lines, if a regular (or any escort, for that matter) advertises different rates on different sites, can we automatically assume the lowest rate applies?

 

I've actually been in both the aforementioned situations.

[NYTomcat]

If a regular raises his rate, are we entitled to keep paying the old rate? Along the same lines, if a regular (or any escort, for that matter) advertises different rates on different sites, can we automatically assume the lowest rate applies?

 

I've actually been in both the aforementioned situations.

 

AS always I think the rule, ask ask ask applies. Confirm before so you don't need to mention it later and u know your comfortable with the sitch.

[Mark Gordon]

Changing Rates

 

I've never lowered my rate, but hypothetically speaking, I think it would be fair for a regular client in this situation to inquire before the next date whether they can pay the new published rate. However, your escort may not appreciate this, so follow your instinct.

 

Conversely, regular clients generally balk at rate increases and expect to keep paying their original rate despite cost of living increases and shifts in the market. I usually keep them at the old rate for awhile in recognition of their patronage, but politely ask them to accept a higher rate after a few months.

 

If an escort is advertising different rates on different sites for the same city, you would usually expect to be able to pay the lowest published rate. However, it might be best to make sure that you contact him via the site where he's advertising the rate you wish to pay, and also to clarify the rate with him before meeting. It may be that he's recently changed his rate and has neglected to update all of his profiles, or that he means to offer different services through different profiles at different rates.

[Kevin Slater]

I can't imagine the situation whereby an escort would penalize a regular client by charging him more than his current going rate, but I agree with the other responses that you should clarify the new rate at the time of the booking. Perhaps he thinks he provides you with a different service than that which he is now advertising. And you don't want to send a message of dissatisfaction which he is left to try to decipher when you think you're just paying the current rate.

 

Kevin Slater

[gaypornfan]

Feel strongly that terms should always be discussed prior to meeting, each and every time we set up to meet escort. This is a business transaction and terms should always be discussed first and nothing assumed.

[+ newatthis]

...It may be that he's recently changed his rate...

You'll like this one. I once set up an appointment and then, with the guy's ad still open in front of me, asked "you charge $n for an hour; what would your rate for 2 hours be?" He replied "Oh, sorry, I was just about to change my rate to $(n+50)." I canceled on the spot.

[cmennow]

I've never lowered my rate, but hypothetically speaking, I think it would be fair for a regular client in this situation to inquire before the next date whether they can pay the new published rate. However, your escort may not appreciate this, so follow your instinct.

 

I can appreciate that response of following my instinct. It might be better to just leave things as they are. I have noticed on some occassions that depending on the request, a rate can increase or decrease so maybe it's like the airline industry. Everyone is getting the same result but each seat cost something different and nobody knows what the person next to them paid.

[cmennow]

I can't imagine the situation whereby an escort would penalize a regular client by charging him more than his current going rate, but I agree with the other responses that you should clarify the new rate at the time of the booking. Perhaps he thinks he provides you with a different service than that which he is now advertising. And you don't want to send a message of dissatisfaction which he is left to try to decipher when you think you're just paying the current rate.

 

Kevin Slater

 

Very valid point. I have seen instances where some of my regulars have increased and we haven maintained our original agreement but it just had never come up where the rate advertised is lowered with someone that I have an established relationship with. There has been a lot of good feedback on the subject though. Thanks!

[instudiocity]

Penalize?

 

I can't imagine the situation whereby an escort would penalize a regular client by charging him more than his current going rate, but I agree with the other responses that you should clarify the new rate at the time of the booking. Perhaps he thinks he provides you with a different service than that which he is now advertising. And you don't want to send a message of dissatisfaction which he is left to try to decipher when you think you're just paying the current rate.

 

Kevin Slater

 

I hope you don't mean PENALIZE in this statement. Paying an escort more shouldn't be seen as a penalty.

 

If I've enjoyed an escort in the past and I've become a regular. asking me for a higher rate should be a no-brainer. The other side of the equation is, he's gotta tell me he's raised his rate. By the time he's my regular, I've got him on speed-dial and may never revisit his ads.

[Kevin Slater]

I can't imagine the situation whereby an escort would penalize a regular client by charging him more than his current going rate, but I agree with the other responses that you should clarify the new rate at the time of the booking. Perhaps he thinks he provides you with a different service than that which he is now advertising. And you don't want to send a message of dissatisfaction which he is left to try to decipher when you think you're just paying the current rate.

 

Kevin Slater

I hope you don't mean PENALIZE in this statement. Paying an escort more shouldn't be seen as a penalty.

 

If I've enjoyed an escort in the past and I've become a regular. asking me for a higher rate should be a no-brainer. The other side of the equation is, he's gotta tell me he's raised his rate. By the time he's my regular, I've got him on speed-dial and may never revisit his ads.

 

Huh? I would see charging a regular client more than new ones as a penalty. I'm not sure of the business sense of raising one's rates only for those who see you most.

 

Kevin Slater

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO..A "Regular" Client should Pay the Regular Rate he originally hooked up with the Working Guy for!

 

This is just good BIZ sense...Ya know what ya got! But ya don't know what your gonna get with your Increase!

 

One of the "Golden Boys" around here Cancelled on me 15 Minutes before he was due to show up..Then had the Balls to call to resked and tell me his Rate had gone up! I told him what he could do with his Rate change..without using Lube!

 

Some of us are not as "Dazzled by Charm" as others!

[+ deej]

Huh? I would see charging a regular client more than new ones as a penalty. I'm not sure of the business sense of raising one's rates only for those who see you most.

 

Kevin Slater

 

True, true, true.

 

But between us girls I don't know that I've ever seen an escort's rates go *DOWN*.

[rickp]

I am also in the position of having recently lowered my rate due to the economy. I don't usually bring it up with clients I meet on a regular basis, but if they asked to pay the lower rate, of course i would honor it.

 

When the economy was booming a few years back, I raised my rates twice but kept them the same for repeat clients. Now, I'm back at the original rate and some clients have been paying the same rate for many years.

[Guest RyanCade]

Wow

 

Not sure if this has come up before, but if one of your regular guys lowers his rate, does that entitle you to pay the lower rate as well?

 

I hesitate to comment, as this can be a very touchy subject.. My personal opinion and experience is that the original agreement should stand unless the client is for some reason no longer able to afford the services at which point a discussion with the escort would be acceptable and totally appropriate, and personally I would be willing to renegotiate and accommodate a client who has been a regular supporter. However, if my client is financially stable and was comfortable with our original agreement, and even hiring me at that rate several times, I might feel unappreciated if they brought up lowering the rate due to a lower advertised rate. I have adjusted my rate due to lack of business or to be competitive with the local rates if I am out of town, but never enough to warrant such a request by a regular client. On the other hand if a client hires me on a regular basis I may offer a discount as a courtesy. If it is compared to other financial agreements, the answer seems clear. If I agree to pay 850.00 a month for my apartment and I see a move in special sign out front 2 months later, is it appropriate for me to go ask to change my lease? Or if I pay full price for something at home depot and the next day it goes on sale for 1/2 price do I ask for a refund? If it truly is a business transaction it would seem our services would be treated the same. I hope I haven't offended anyone as it was not my intent. Just my point of view. Thanks for being here for me to share it..

[Kevin Slater]

If it is compared to other financial agreements, the answer seems clear. If I agree to pay 850.00 a month for my apartment and I see a move in special sign out front 2 months later, is it appropriate for me to go ask to change my lease? Or if I pay full price for something at home depot and the next day it goes on sale for 1/2 price do I ask for a refund? If it truly is a business transaction it would seem our services would be treated the same.

 

I get your point, but disagree. When you signed the lease, you and the landlord agreed to a twelve month deal. Sucks to be him if rates go up, sucks to be you if they go down, but you've locked in terms. Now at the end of the year when it's time to sign a new lease, should you be obligated to stay at 850 if new leases are being offered 750, just because that's the rate you're used to paying? Of course not. You should get the new going rate (or better, given your preexisting relationship). Each time a customer sees me, it's a new business interaction (we have no agreement locking in the rates). I wouldn't expect to hold him to the old rate if I'm advertising a lower rate to new clients.

 

Kevin Slater

[JoeyBryant]

I always say just put it in writing. If the rate is listed, there's no reason for confusion because its right there. As for regulars, I guess its an individual choice as to whether you keep the rate the same for them or not when you change.

 

There may be some who choose not to lose a regular over a few bucks difference.

[NYTomcat]

I get your point, but disagree. When you signed the lease, you and the landlord agreed to a twelve month deal. Sucks to be him if rates go up, sucks to be you if they go down, but you've locked in terms. Now at the end of the year when it's time to sign a new lease, should you be obligated to stay at 850 if new leases are being offered 750, just because that's the rate you're used to paying? Of course not. You should get the new going rate (or better, given your preexisting relationship). Each time a customer sees me, it's a new business interaction (we have no agreement locking in the rates). I wouldn't expect to hold him to the old rate if I'm advertising a lower rate to new clients.

 

Kevin Slater

 

Just a client perspective. I think Kevin may have a real vallid point. Are you realistically going to say. "Well if you were a new client that I didn't know at all you'ld pay $500. But because you have been a good and loyal client over the years you owe $600." It doesn't make a lot of business sense and would leave the client feeling taken advantage of. I understand that the escort may feel lessened but it was the escort who lowered the fees. (now i agree this doesn't apply to lower fees in target market areas. cost of living and all we NYers always get the squeeze)

[Guest zipperzone]

Just a client perspective. I think Kevin may have a real vallid point. Are you realistically going to say. "Well if you were a new client that I didn't know at all you'ld pay $500. But because you have been a good and loyal client over the years you owe $600." It doesn't make a lot of business sense and would leave the client feeling taken advantage of. I understand that the escort may feel lessened but it was the escort who lowered the fees. (now i agree this doesn't apply to lower fees in target market areas. cost of living and all we NYers always get the squeeze)

 

Tomcat - That's the way I see it too. An escort who does not respect a repeat client enough to be honest and upfront about his current rate is putting himself into the "hustler" category, IMO.

[Guest RyanCade]

I get your point, but disagree. When you signed the lease, you and the landlord agreed to a twelve month deal. Sucks to be him if rates go up, sucks to be you if they go down, but you've locked in terms. Now at the end of the year when it's time to sign a new lease, should you be obligated to stay at 850 if new leases are being offered 750, just because that's the rate you're used to paying? Of course not. You should get the new going rate (or better, given your preexisting relationship). Each time a customer sees me, it's a new business interaction (we have no agreement locking in the rates). I wouldn't expect to hold him to the old rate if I'm advertising a lower rate to new clients.

 

Kevin Slater

 

However, I hold myself to the same rule, when I first started escorting I was unfamiliar with the going rate and still have several clients paying the same rate they paid when I first met them which is far below my current rate, and I would never dream of asking them to pay more, as I feel it could make them feel I didn't value our relationship, and from a few comments in this thread it is apparent it would not be smiled upon if I did. One escort was told where he could stick his rate increase without lube, and another was canceled on the moment he mentioned a rate increase. both were mentioned in this thread. As far as agreements there are none and that is understood, however I do my very best to let my clients know they are special to me and I sincerely care for them, their feelings and appreciate their support. I would hope to be appreciated and respected in the same way.The other statement I made on this subject said ""if" this really is just a financial agreement" which I don't feel it is, we are dealing with real people and real relationships. That being said, there are a lot of gray areas here where an escort has to be very careful not to be offensive, accidentally hurt a clients feelings or be misunderstood, while maintaining boundaries and taking care of themselves mentally, physically, and financially at the same time. As an escort I and I known many others face some very uncomfortable situations with regard to rates, sometimes very harsh and degrading situations. It's part of the job and we take the lick and move on. Point being I would feel my client didn't value our relationship the way I do if they approached me with this type of request. I suspect it would be similar to the way the clients felt when their escort increased the rate on them, which I would never do nor do I think it appropriate "whether a contractual agreement is in place or not" Again"real people, real relationships,real feelings" As I said I have and will in the future offer "without being asked" reasonable discounts to my regular clients and have not and never will ask a client to pay more than our original agreed rate. I will reiterate my desire not to be offensive, but i will be honest about how I feel and just hope it will be taken in a non offensive way. it's hard to convey in type my sincere respect and gratitude in situations like these, all too often they are misunderstood. Thanks for reading. xoxo

[Guest RyanCade]

Tomcat - That's the way I see it too. An escort who does not respect a repeat client enough to be honest and upfront about his current rate is putting himself into the "hustler" category, IMO.

 

Please reread my post. I have and will continue to offer without being asked and in appreciation of my regular clients support discounts. and this has never happened. I have never faced this situation I am trying to bring into light that these are more than financial agreements these are relationships. Escorts have feelings too, and "Hustlers" probably don't care much about this site or the opinions of those of us on it, and further would not invest their time in an effort to reach better understanding and therefore build better relationships with their beloved clients.

 

 

P.S. I recently booked a five day trip and had agreed upon a rate and confirmed the appointment. I then posted a special rate on my personal blog "book 4 hours and get six or book four days and get 5" I called the client made him aware of the special and reduced his rate by 1 day=1000.00

[Guest RyanCade]

I am also in the position of having recently lowered my rate due to the economy. I don't usually bring it up with clients I meet on a regular basis, but if they asked to pay the lower rate, of course i would honor it.

 

When the economy was booming a few years back, I raised my rates twice but kept them the same for repeat clients. Now, I'm back at the original rate and some clients have been paying the same rate for many years.

 

I have never had a regular ask me to lower my rate however I have had them ask what it was because they didn't remember, I to give them the current rate. and I also have several clients who pay far less than what my current rate is and wouldn't dream of asking for more.

[Bart]

This has been a most interesting thread along with two other threads, one here in the deli on falling in love with escorts and one in the escort section. They actually all fall into that tenuous area of client-escort relationships.

 

Ryan and Kevin I think you are both right. I do believe gentleman have the right to raise their rates based upon their situation. Especially if they were new getting into the business and then after a while, many at clients urging raise their rates. I think while a lot of clients will pause, there is a way of communicating this with the longterm client. Now if that client is still giving you a nice tip and added together that exceeds or matches your rate I would say long-term not the way to go. But to be fair I do believe their are some guys I would accept the increase from better than others and the amount of increase would dictate that considering I almost always hire for 3 hours or more.

 

In a matter of full disclosure, I recently had a situation where the escort chose to raise his rates or to better describe it I was no longer getting the discounted rate from their original 4 years earlier. The issue came after I had arrived and if I had known I would have probably still met but for significantly less time, several hours instead of multi-days. I will admit totally that I was at fault for confriming the rate prior to meeting. Our meetings have not gone by any strict time standards and have been somewhat fluid over the past. Worse I have a habit of paying 50% of the fee, this is when it is usually a full day or longer, upon arrival. I am sure later when he opened the envelope and saw what I had brought he realized there was an issue. When I handed the envelope I said well here is part and have the rest at the end. It did not effect our time together because he is professional and I enjoy him very much. That said it was realignment of the business arrangement and no more or less. It was a dose of reality. I will probably not see him again, mainly because I did not appreciate presenting the issue after I arrived and maybe more so I felt quite foolish. To be clear this was not a case of the two or three hundred dollars, significantly more than that.

 

All I would ask is the gentleman to present the issue up front so I have the opportunity to say yes or no in a manner where neither of us has to feel embarrased about the financial arrangement.

[+ Cash4Trash]

I'd continue paying the higher rate if an escort I'd seen frequently lowered his rate.

From my point of view the only reason to lower price is the guy is having problems

and needs to drum up more business to pay the bills.

 

The down side is a top guy who smells desperate is seriously not sexy.