question about untruthful encounters

[firsttimer]

So tonight was the second time I arranged a meeting with someone from rentboy whose ad was new and never was reviewed before. And the person did not look like their picture. (This time the guy had multiple tatoos and his ad showed him with no tatoos anywhere) When I get there I'm not sure what is the right thing to do. I don't want to waste my 200 dollars on someone that I'm not attracted to but I feel obliged to leave something since I made the appointment. So both times I gave them 40 dollars (which is like my whole week's lunch money wasted) because I felt bad. But I sometimes wonder if I should just leave and not leave anything at all. I'm wasting my time traveling there too to see someone who is not what they advertised and I spend 2 minutes there before I have the courage to give my 40 dollars and say sorry this isn't going to work. What do you all think is the proper thing I should do?

[+ purplekow]

So tonight was the second time I arranged a meeting with someone from rentboy whose ad was new and never was reviewed before. And the person did not look like their picture. (This time the guy had multiple tatoos and his ad showed him with no tatoos anywhere) When I get there I'm not sure what is the right thing to do. I don't want to waste my 200 dollars on someone that I'm not attracted to but I feel obliged to leave something since I made the appointment. So both times I gave them 40 dollars (which is like my whole week's lunch money wasted) because I felt bad. But I sometimes wonder if I should just leave and not leave anything at all. I'm wasting my time traveling there too to see someone who is not what they advertised and I spend 2 minutes there before I have the courage to give my 40 dollars and say sorry this isn't going to work. What do you all think is the proper thing I should do?

 

Stop using unreviewed escorts

IF you must use unreviewed escorts, ask to meet them in a public place and if they are not who they say they are, thank them and leave, no money. You don't owe them anything if they lied.

IF you have ignored guides 1 and 2, and you are in their hotel room. Token payment and a quick exit probably avoids possible violence, though leaving without payment is still an option.

If you have ignored guides 1 and 2 and you are in your home with them, payment for travel and time to get there, usually half the fee, will hopefully get them out without too much trouble and little damage.

 

If you ignore the first two guides you are asking for trouble and you may have to pay to get out of it.

[firsttimer]

Thanks for your advice.

 

So I used unreviewed escorts because their pictures looked like what I was looking for since I wasn't interested in the other reviewed escorts in my city. Also I felt like sometimes our board is supposed to be used to warn others of these poor encounters (Maybe I should be leaving that job to someone else here in Chicago) and I can thus post about it.

 

Both times I went to their place. I wouldn't make them come here after all these bad experiences because then like you said you really are stuck paying. So both times I went and meet them at their apartment lobby (a public place like you said) but I still gave them 40 dollars as I felt bad. Am I just stupid?

[+ purplekow]

You are not just stupid. You are many things besides stupid. (Couldnt resist)

I wasnt there but it seems to me you rewarded them for lying and wasting your time and paid them $40 to walk from their apartment to the lobby. Seems like that might encourage them to continue to do this to other unsuspecting folks. You should feel bad for yourself and the time you have wasted and not add money wasted to the toll. Apparently the $40 is more than just chump change to you, so don't be a chump.

[BaronArtz]

No. Insist on meeting them in a public place first. A lobby, a street corner, a bar, whatever ... If they don't look like their ad, walk away without introducing yourself. And NEVER pay them. Believe me, they are used to it.

[firsttimer]

You're right. I'm worse than stupid. But thanks for your advice again. It confirms how dumb I am still when it comes to hiring.

[BaronArtz]

Hey ... don't beat yourself up. Just don't get ripped off. They are *****s. If they don't look as advertised, walk away and don't pay anything. They are used to it.

[+ glutes]

You're right. I'm worse than stupid. But thanks for your advice again. It confirms how dumb I am still when it comes to hiring.

 

You aren't dumb, you are learning - just like we all have!

You might also save yourself some time, tell them over the phone "If you don't look like your pics, I am probably not going to hire you'. That usually cuts down on the frauds and phonies.

[BaronArtz]

Putas are used to rejection all the time. Ever been in the red light district of Amsterdam? If you don't like the way it looks, walk away.

[BaronArtz]

You aren't dumb, you are learning - just like we all have!

You might also save yourself some time, tell them over the phone "If you don't look like your pics, I am probably not going to hire you'. That usually cuts down on the frauds and phonies.

 

 

Puh-leeze. Tell them, 'if you don't look like your pics, your fucking mother won't recognize your face anymore when I am done'.

[firsttimer]

You aren't dumb, you are learning - just like we all have!

You might also save yourself some time, tell them over the phone "If you don't look like your pics, I am probably not going to hire you'. That usually cuts down on the frauds and phonies.

 

I did say that the second time around, but I still felt too bad for it and so I gave the guy 40 buck too. I just keep beating myself up for being so stupid.

[+ purplekow]

You felt bad and the escort is eating room service with your $40 bucks and you are brown bagging it because you gave him your lunch money. This is life, not high school. Take responsiblity and change your actions to match your intentions.

[Guest greatness]

well

 

It really depends. If you travel to them then you don't owe them anything. When an escort travels to you and you find out he lied to you then that is a bit tricky. I used to give them a little bit to compensate for their time to come to see me. Next time if you travel to see an escort with a fake ad then I don't think you owe any money and don't feel bad about it. He lied to you.

 

firsttimer you are so young. With that money just go to a gym and eat well. Once you have a healthy mind and a body, a good person will come along. I will be traveling to Chicago to help a friend out in late December. I will take you out to dinner or a drink when I am there.. let's talk if you like.

 

 

 

 

 

I did say that the second time around, but I still felt too bad for it and so I gave the guy 40 buck too. I just keep beating myself up for being so stupid.

[+ glutes]

firsttimer, I would take Greatness up on his offer!

 

http://www.allquizzes.net/book_icons/lunch_money.jpg

[firsttimer]

It really depends. If you travel to them then you don't owe them anything. When an escort travels to you and you don't like him that is a bit tricky. I used to give them a little bit to compensate for their time to come to see me. Next time if you travel to see an escort with a fake ad then I don't think you owe any money and don't feel bad about it. He lied to you.

 

firsttimer you are so young. With that money just go to a gym and eat well. Once you have a healthy mind and a body, a good person will come along. I will be traveling to Chicago to help a friend out in late December. I will take you out to dinner or a drink when I am there.. let's talk if you like.

 

I would love to take you up on your offer.

[+ newatthis]

...Also I felt like sometimes our board is supposed to be used to warn others of these poor encounters (Maybe I should be leaving that job to someone else here in Chicago) and I can thus post about it...

So you need to post reviews of both of these guys asap, so others are warned off.

[NYTomcat]

you also need to take greatness shoe shopping. let him know the better boutiques in Chicago

[firsttimer]

So you need to post reviews of both of these guys asap, so others are warned off.

 

I already have posted threads in this forum about them and their ads.

[firsttimer]

you also need to take greatness shoe shopping. let him know the better boutiques in Chicago

 

Lol. I own three shoes so I don't know where the better boutiques would be located. There's always Michigan Avenue but I don't think the prices will be a steal.

[seaboy4hire]

Firsttimer if you have time before meeting someone who isn't reviewed hop on here and ask about the guy if you haven't done so yet. Many times it seems that someone here more times then not has seen the guy in question and can lead you in the right direction. Now if you meet a guy and he looks nothing like his pic well I'd say you don't owe him anything. This isn't like the real world where if you buy something and it doesn't work out you can return it. Also maybe ask the guy what is his most recent pic is if he has multiple pics. I know I probably shouldn't but I have recent pics as soon as a month ago to a few yrs back and when someone contacts me I let them know that the recent pics are the ones with me wearing glasses. Just my half cents worth. I hope that you learn quick. I personally don't like seeing guys being taken advantage of.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[Guest greatness]

lol

 

I try to stay away from shoe stores so don't tempt me.

 

Lol. I own three shoes so I don't know where the better boutiques would be located. There's always Michigan Avenue but I don't think the prices will be a steal.

[+ azdr0710]

don't say, "I'm so stupid", firstimer....your offer of the $40 shows you're the good guy in this...

 

you said you asked the second guy if he was like his pictures....that's good....go on to politely say that you will simply cancel the meet if looks don't match pictures...obvious advice, but gotta say it....as others say, if you travel to them, don't pay anything if you cancel and do meet in a public place if you have doubts...

 

I go thru three or four rounds of email and a call or two before a meet with a new guy to see how they respond and sound....I'm always polite and friendly....

 

of course, go with well-reviewed guys and you have nothing to worry about....but you did say you couldn't find one you liked....

 

best of luck....as others said, don't beat yourself up!!!....and don't take it all seriously, of course

[whipped guy]

Your experienced!

 

Firsttimer... I just caught this thread and Shoot! You sound as though you are the metaphorical version of me! LOL!

 

Actually you most definitely come across as a good guy... in fact a really good guy.

 

You have received some really great advice here. My advice is to take note of Brooklyn Guy's current signature which reads, "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted!" Well, consider yourself the voice of experience... In fact we have all made mistakes and it will only be a mistake in the future if you don't learn from those mistakes... and as with all of us it most often a couple of such "experiences" to actually see the light...and especially when someone is as nice a guy as you seem to be..

 

So will all your newly found "experience" take heart, move on, and enjoy to the max!

[Guest RyanCade]

SHAME ON HIM Don't take responsibilty for his shortcoming

 

So tonight was the second time I arranged a meeting with someone from rentboy whose ad was new and never was reviewed before. And the person did not look like their picture. (This time the guy had multiple tatoos and his ad showed him with no tatoos anywhere) When I get there I'm not sure what is the right thing to do. I don't want to waste my 200 dollars on someone that I'm not attracted to but I feel obliged to leave something since I made the appointment. So both times I gave them 40 dollars (which is like my whole week's lunch money wasted) because I felt bad. But I sometimes wonder if I should just leave and not leave anything at all. I'm wasting my time traveling there too to see someone who is not what they advertised and I spend 2 minutes there before I have the courage to give my 40 dollars and say sorry this isn't going to work. What do you all think is the proper thing I should do?

 

The escort knew his pictures were old and inaccurate. He was counting on you not having the courage to say this isn't what I agreed to pay for and I'm not willing to pay for it now. Let that happen to him a couple of times and the S.O.B. will get some new pictures or realize this business is not for him. He wasted his own time as well as yours, his bad, not yours, why should you pay him for that.

I had an issue not too long ago, which you may or may not be aware of, but it was anything but pleasant for me or the client. One of the many lessons I took from that experience is that being afraid to upset or disappoint someone makes you vulnerable and does not make a bad situation a good one, but rather makes it worse. Someone suggested a 10 minute period at the beginning of the session where either the client or the escort could opt out without obligation. I thought it a great idea accept the idea that my clients would arrive with a fear of rejection. I revised it a bit, but implemented it as standard procedure. My sessions are now 1hr and 10min. I tell the up front before we actually meet, that the first ten minutes is a warm up chat over a complimentary glass of wine for ~THEM~ to determine whether or not they would like to proceed. I have found this to be VERY successful, even getting a few very reserved clients who otherwise probably would not have booked. Any escort who has accurately represented themselves, should have no problem with this suggestion. If they are, you're most likely better off not meeting them.. I'm sorry you had another bad experience, and wish you many fantastic and satisfying encounters in the future.

[Guest RyanCade]

Stop using unreviewed escorts

 

I have heard this several times on this board, and it has to be the most troublesome statement so far.. How is a new escort to be reviewed if the reviewers refuse to see escorts that have no reviews, and referred to, as I was, and "unknown entity" I have been stiffed, shorted, disrespected and even ended up in situations where my personal safety was in question on several occasions by "bad men" with bad intentions posing as "clients" I shutter to think at the amazing and spectacular encounters I would have missed out on if I started insisted on being payed in advance or required personal information disclosing the true identity of my clients because of my bad experiences. I have to accept these things as part of the deal and can't take it out on undeserving clients who are unaware of and had no part of those experiences. Don't take it out on the new escort. Meet him, give him a chance, you may be pleasantly surprised. If he is really new, you get to see that really nervous innocent look in his eye. Doesn't that turn you on? It does me.. But you better hire him fast, that look doesn't last long... lol My opinion and some food for thought.

 

"There is one principle that is sure to keep a man in everlasting ignorance, Contempt prior to investigation"