Why I hire David.... or.... Fool Me Once....

[Okliehomo]

As most of you know out there, I have been at this for a long, long, long time now. Thought that I had the game (?) down pretty good. I know exactly how to state my case, my preferences, my expectations, very clearly and in exhausting detail. I try not to leave much to chance.... and yet, even after all that... sometimes, I still get the wrong result.

 

Or do I?

 

Here's what happened... and this time, I am not naming names because that seemed to set everyone's hair on fire the last time... don't want to go all rejected school girl on you.....

 

OK.... in the summer of 2008, I booked an appt for early Sept..... a 3 way.... A week before that appt, my boss tells me that I have to give a tour to a very important client's wife on the Monday that I was supposed to be out of town with my guests..... So, I had to cancel and both guys were very understanding.

 

Well, so, I still have those tickets... but after that, I develop this need to film it all.... (thank you, David)..... When I approached these guys again for a rebooking; one says absolutely not and the other guy says, sure, I have done that kind of thing before. So, I rebook the agreeable guy for last Memorial Day...

 

A couple of weeks before his visit, he emails and says that he is "having reservations" and that he needs to cancel. "Just can't do it".....He offers to reimburse me for the ticket but I tell him to keep it and we might use it for another time when I don't want to film it... (which, by the way, is probably NEVER but you never know) ... Then, I reached out to Kristian and he was available and it was fucking perfect. All's well that ends well, right? And what a swell end, Kristian has. Hot.

 

So, a month or so ago, I asked the reluctant one yet again if he would be interested in using that ticket... same ground rules... very clear... filming is part of the deal... and he said that he was "in the mood for something like that" and that he would be happy to join in. I rebooked the ticket (for the second time, mind you..... American Airlines fucking loves me). I send it to him and he is like "Got it. Will buy a mask. All good."

 

Yesterday, exactly one week before the appt, he calls and "isn't comfortable" with the filming. He says he knows he should "suck it up" and "just get through it", but just can't.

 

Not happy... this is a guy that I have wanted to meet forever. Like Reece, like Todd Dillon.

 

Again, he is more than willing to reimburse, very nice, very apologetic, sincerely sorry, I think... but let's add that up, shall we? I used the $400 cancelled ticket (my fault) to buy his next ticket plus a $128 penalty and the difference in fares, then used that cancelled ticket (his fault) to buy the next ticket plus a $150 penalty and the difference in fares... that is now cancelled (his fault)... plus (and not his fault but my own desire to have it exactly right)... I had to pay to bring in Kristian (absolutely no regrets) when he cancelled and had to rebook Stefano (no regrets at all) today because he cancelled yet again.

 

All this being said, booking Kristian was a revelation. He is perfect and no one would have been a better choice or fit. And the fact that I was lucky enough to see him with Andrew Justice and David... and again, with Romann and David... and yet again, with Stefano and David. Not a lot to bitch about there, is there?

 

And I got lucky again today... Stefano can come back to fill the.. um... void... so to speak.. And that SO works for me because it was killing me to wait til next summer to see that stellar ass again... gorgeous. No bitch there, either.

 

I guess, by now, you guys might have surmised that I am a bit of a control freak.... (someone I care about more than I should termed it as "peculiar and fussy". I much prefer "particular and picky"... which is what I am sure he meant to say in the first place, don't you think??)....

 

Anyway.

 

I am just sharing this tonight. A hiring experience.... No judgement. No warning. No who's right, no who's wrong... more like, he was wrong to rebook twice for something he clearly wasn't comfortable with and I was wrong for asking him again and believing him again... and yet, it all turned out ... right.

 

What the fuck?

 

At this time in my life, I just want fun. If it don't come easy.... let it go.... No drama. I try to make that really clear. Just great sex, and good times and more great sex... and some great dvds.

 

That's why I hire David.

 

Okie

[+ Lucky]

Boys! Can't Live With Them...

 

I have reconsidered my reaction to this thread and decided that I misread it, so my replies are also misspoken.

[Steven_Draker]

T. M. A.

 

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[+ FreshFluff]

Okie, you said you've wanted to hire this guy forever. If that's the case, why not consider hiring him (with or without a second guy) without the filming? I'm sure it's nice to have a way to remember this expensive experience, but is that more important than having the experience at all? If he decided to retire tomorrow, would you regret not booking with him?

 

These aren't rhetorical questions, by the way; the answers may be "no." But I think they're worth considering.

[Guest LeoWalker]

Okie, you said you've wanted to hire this guy forever. If that's the case, why not consider hiring him (with or without a second guy) without the filming? I'm sure it's nice to have a way to remember this expensive experience, but is that more important than having the experience at all? If he decided to retire tomorrow, would you regret not booking with him?

 

Thank you for articulating the thoughts I had when reading this.

[Luv2play]

It's always a bummer when an escort backs out of an appointment and in this case, for the same reason two times. However he did offer both times to fully reimburse you for the expenses incurred on his behalf, or so you say, so I wonder why you bring up the question of expenses which, frankly, I had a hard time following (but then accounting is not my strong suit).

 

I understand your interest in filming your encounters with escorts but I also can see why many would be reluctant to oblige since many do not aspire to porno-star status. I did it once many years ago and still have the tape. I think I've only looked at it twice in ten years, and one time I fast forwarded through much of it. However, I recognize that there are diiferent strokes for different folks!

[+ Lucky]

I have reconsidered my reaction to this thread and decided that I misread it, so my replies are also misspoken.

[best hotel]

Okie.....i get it completely....hope you felt heard here ....and can ignore the rest

[+ nycman]

This is gonna sound harsh..but...

 

Get over your filming addiction already!

 

Put down the camera and have some fun.

 

Would it really be that exciting to film someone who was so reluctant to participate anyway?

 

It's your money and your life, but sometimes you gotta compromise to get what you want!

 

Over course, I don't have a filming fetish so maybe I just don't understand...grin.

 

I just don't think you should miss out on hiring a dude you really like because of one (in my view very minor) hang up!

 

PS I agree the others, the dude offered to reimburse you, so the money issue is moot.

[Bart]

Wow an unfriendly crowd this morning. Leo I can understand your perspective as an escort. Steven really what is the point. Why put something like that out there, just really below your standards or maybe you don’t have any at this point. I think you have run that gag out there to the point of being obnoxious.

 

I really think guys some of you missed the point. This was a relatively positive post. Okie is making an omelet out of broken eggs.

 

First, David just makes everything work no matter the participants, no matter the issue he just plain comes through for the client and shows it time and time again. What more could any of us ask of gentleman in the business.

 

You can sit there and state the escort offered to pay back the fare the point was this was not just a one-on-one. There were other guys involved. I don’t think the escort offered to pay the premium for the short notice flight for Stefano to come to town. The client here was not looking for one-on-one no film. His thing is filming, we all have different wants and desires. How would you feel if the "versatile" escort you hired who lists kissing comes back and says I just cant bottom for an older dude and I only kiss on the lips no tongue after you have booked and hired two other guys to join in and they are both tops. I guess we have an issue dont we.

 

Then you have the issue which a lot of you do not have a problem with, getting a replacement for Oklahoma, or Wisconsin or Nebraska, just isn’t a matter of picking up the phone and calling the next guy on the list. There is no list. I have always love the guys chiming in who never hire for an overnight of it they do they have a choice of 50 guys who are always visiting. Sorry once again the world does revolve around NY, LA, SF but not everyone lives there. Do you have any clue how much time and effort goes into setting up a meeting for guy to fly into places like this, especially this time of the year. So to be honest it is a big deal.

 

But Okie really did not dwell on that he was positive because he gave great praise to first Kristian and then to Stefano who both came in on short notice, even if Okie is paying a premium on the flight because of the short notice.

 

I look forward to another Cecil B DeMille production, maybe with “Betty Davis Eyes” playing the background with the cold weather piling in, maybe a few mink coats tossed around the room for some warmth.

[Steven_Draker]

A cry baby

 

Get over your filming addiction already!

 

Exactly! Thank you for expressing it so clearly, nycman!

 

Too much drama all around.

 

 

[Steven_Draker]

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[NYTomcat]

OK so after the many posts as to the good nature of the forum we get this. Thank you Okie for showing why you hire David SF. It is a testament to the man that his clients are as devoted to him as they are, he clearly must be someone very special.

 

As to those who have an issue with filming it really is not any of your concern. This poster chooses his experience and hires for that reason. While I may thoroughly understand an escorts fears and his decision to back out. I do not believe our comments on what other members choose to do with their time with an escort is a question of debate. Everyone have fun the way you want to, live and let live. Thank you bart for more cogently making the point.

[+ nycman]

As to those who have an issue with filming ....

 

I honestly don't think any of us have an "issue" with filming.

 

It's letting that fetish stand in the way of having a good time that's the "issue".

Remember, when he first contacted this escort...there was no mention of filming.

This "requirement" came up later. I think we all agree that when the rules change,

both parties are free to walk away. Ok, the escort's indecision isn't helping the matter.

I agree. He's having 2nd, 3rd, and maybe even 4th thoughts about it. Such is life.

 

There I think Okie has a legitimate bitch, albeit a minor one.

 

My intention was to encourage Okie not to let the filming requirement stand in the

way of hiring a dude he really wants to see....that's all.

 

Unfortunately, I think I came off sounding like an ass. That certainly wasn't my intention.

I was trying to be direct, and sometimes that goes awry. I apologize to Okie if he

took my post that way.

 

Hell, I don't care if Okie gets off on filming dudes singing "The Goodship Lollipop"

in pink tutu's while eatting fudge brownies. It's his money and if it gets him off....bravo!

 

I agree. Live and let live.

 

PS...Okie...please tell me you don't make them wear pink tutu's.....grin

[NYTomcat]

I honestly don't think any of us have an "issue" with filming.

 

It's letting that fetish stand in the way of having a good time that's the "issue".

Remember, when he first contacted this escort...there was no mention of filming.

This "requirement" came up later. I think we all agree that when the rules change,

both parties are free to walk away. Ok, the escort's indecision isn't helping the matter.

I agree. He's having 2nd, 3rd, and maybe even 4th thoughts about it. Such is life.

 

There I think Okie has a legitimate bitch, albeit a minor one.

 

My intention was to encourage Okie not to let the filming requirement stand in the

way of hiring a dude he really wants to see....that's all.

 

Unfortunately, I think I came off sounding like an ass. That certainly wasn't my intention.

I was trying to be direct, and sometimes that goes awry. I apologize to Okie if he

took my post that way.

 

Hell, I don't care if Okie gets off on filming dudes singing "The Goodship Lollipop"

in pink tutu's while eatting fudge brownies. It's his money and if it gets him off....bravo!

 

I agree. Live and let live.

 

PS...Okie...please tell me you don't make them wear pink tutu's.....grin

 

Well nycman I must agree, if you really want him then perhaps the filming is secondary, perhaps not. but I do thank okie for his unwaivering support of David. It is a testament to the man how loyal his clients are. almost as avid as my favorite, well almost. hey there Romann - coverboy. NY awaits

[+ FreshFluff]

I honestly don't think any of us have an "issue" with filming.

 

It's letting that fetish stand in the way of having a good time that's the "issue".

 

I totally agree. It just seemed like the OP had wanted to hire the escort for longer than he had been "into" filming. That's why I wondered whether it might be worth giving up the filming for a good time with the escort he had wanted for so long.

[seeker630]

Harsh!

 

Exactly! Thank you for expressing it so clearly, nycman!

 

Too much drama all around.

 

 

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Wow, I'm not sure you meant that to sound as harsh as it did?

 

It's up to Okie to decide what makes a session worthwhile for him, and not for us any of us to decide what his requirements should be.

 

And actually...a post entitled 'cry baby' doesn't exactly lower whatever drama quotient there might be.

[+ nycman]

...hey there Romann - coverboy. NY awaits

 

Damn...that boy got your number good...huh?

 

Just kidding NYTomcat. Glad you like him so much. I remember my

first escort mini-crush..some of the happiest days and nights of my life.

 

Romann sounds like a real gem. Have fun.

[Guest novabear22031]

In the end it shows that trying to "fly" a guy(s) in for is risky in particular if you have certain desires that need to be met. My limited experince shows that even a local meet up can be hit or miss.

 

Have done only one "vacation hire"; and though it did not meet what I was thinking would happen - the guy and me became "buddies" in the end.

 

A local hire started off well enough; but his being slipped a micky at a birthday party IIRC - left him less then perfect for what we planned - but in the end it worked out for the two of us. In the end we made lemonade out the lemons and still had a good time.

 

The next couple of guys hit things on the mark!

 

The next couple of guys show that it is about chemistry. They were everything they said they were; but maybe it was their personalities that led us down a different path than discussed. Still left happy with the time spent with them.

 

Learning here that things don't always work out the way we want. But I spend time in getting to "know" the guy - so what happens, happens in the end. Sort of like a "hook-up date" with a guy recently - non escort. We talked about doing pics/videos of each other - but it never got to that for the good times we were having.

[+ Lucky]

I have reconsidered my reaction to this thread and decided that I misread it, so my replies are also misspoken. It appears that Okliehomo was discoursing on an incident that happened to him, pointing out that even though it frustrated him at times, it all ended well. I focused more on the frustrations than the result, so I decided that my replies were no longer appropriate.

[NYTomcat]

Damn...that boy got your number good...huh?

 

Just kidding NYTomcat. Glad you like him so much. I remember my

first escort mini-crush..some of the happiest days and nights of my life.

 

Romann sounds like a real gem. Have fun.

 

Oh yeah, stick a fork in me, I'm done. But having a good time and thats what matters. so keep on filming.

[Racketjock]

Okie,

 

Thanks for sharing your exploits once again. As an avid fan, I value your opinions and appreciate the candor with which you share them. As others have said, you made lemonade out of lemons and had yet another fantastic time. Times which I read and relish with envy/ admiration for what you have obviously found works for you and brings you happiness, something I aspire to do more of for myself.

 

Cheers, your fan in fun,

 

Racketjock

[best hotel]

lucky....i think that was very cool and impressive

[JT Brooklyn]

Cry Baby Again

 

Wow, I'm not sure you meant that to sound as harsh as it did?

 

It's up to Okie to decide what makes a session worthwhile for him, and not for us any of us to decide what his requirements should be.

 

And actually...a post entitled 'cry baby' doesn't exactly lower whatever drama quotient there might be.

 

Hi Seeker..I'm not sure how long you have been Reading Daddys Chit-Chat BUT the above mentioned "Working Guy" has in the Past labled one of the nicest guys on this site "Okie" a Cry Baby!

 

Maybe it is because HE hasn't been asked to be Filmed by anyone in many years who knows? Even though there has been a Face Shot Floating around for a long time anyway....

 

I Myself have enjoyed a couple of "Memories on Film" with Working Guys over the Years.

[+ Oliver]

... BUT the above mentioned "Working Guy" has in the Past labled one of the nicest guys on this site "Okie" a Cry Baby! ...

 

Ah yes, JT. Memories of the "IceFireWizard" who wasn't so nice.