increase in bad client behavior

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In Cluster of Bad Experiences on The Deli, Michael Vincenzo writes of recently being stood up and shorted on his rate repeatedly in a relatively short period of time. Later in the same thread, he writes "I am noticing that the frequency of these things happening is increasing."

 

Are other escorts also seeing a pick-up in bad client behavior? Is it the recession? Are traveling escorts more likely to get stiffed like this than stay-at-homes? Any hypotheses about why this is happening?

[Mark Gordon]

Clusters

 

I have not noticed any such marked increase in bad client behaviour. In the course of a long escorting career like Michael and I have had, you are bound to have clusters of both good and bad experiences. It is something that has always and will always happen. It is more troubling when it happens when an escort is travelling because he has higher overheads. It is up to each escort to find a balance between the precautions he takes to protect himself versus the expectations of clients and the realities of the market.

[Guest RyanCade]

So od that this thread only received one reply... Hmmm

[seaboy4hire]

So od that this thread only received one reply... Hmmm

 

I think maybe because over all our experiences with clients aren't bad. I've experienced some new clients and found the experiences on the great side as well as with my regular clients. Now I think the question should be with how the economy is doing what are the bad experiences clients are having with what is probably the influx of new guys escorting?

 

Hugs,

Greg

[Guest Conley]

Some clients are my best friends

 

I have had clients for as long as 3 years. The more honest you are about who you are and what your limitations you have, will develop trust over the months and years. I'm not saying jump out and tell our clients everything, but; releasing information when the time is right; can creat long lasting clients and good friends. I have many personal courtesies that I have found to secure my clients in the knowlege that they can trust me. It's comes down to being honest, even if the answer or comment is bad.

[billhu]

Yes!

 

You sound refreshing, nice to have an evening of honest sex, dinner and chat. Get your ass to NYC!

[Guest novabear22031]

I have had clients for as long as 3 years. The more honest you are about who you are and what your limitations you have, will develop trust over the months and years. I'm not saying jump out and tell our clients everything, but; releasing information when the time is right; can creat long lasting clients and good friends. I have many personal courtesies that I have found to secure my clients in the knowlege that they can trust me. It's comes down to being honest, even if the answer or comment is bad.

 

Amen to that! No ogre here - but self issues gets in the even when hiring. So when hiring I look for a guy that is open to communicate freely first off. Sort of like online dating or a blind date sort of thing. Stats and interests are all well and good - but I want to know that they guy I hire can get in to me.

 

I have seen his pics most likely... so I think it is only fair to share mine back. Had one guy that came back and said he could not get in to me for what I wanted - I respected him for that after he saw my pics.

 

What I look for are escorts that develop a sense of trust and desire - so far I have not really been "had" by anyone I did meet... Been lucky I guess, but a few I consider new friends - even our paths don't cross....

[Guest RyanCade]

I think maybe because over all our experiences with clients aren't bad. I've experienced some new clients and found the experiences on the great side as well as with my regular clients.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. My good encounters and the positive aspects of this job, far outweigh the negative, Which is why I am so in love with what I do. I don't think anyone can claim that "all" of their experiences are bad, if so they may need to find a new profession. However, that doesn't mean the bad experiences don't happen on a regular bases. or that the number of experiences are not on the rise. My first reaction to the original post was "wow I'm not touching that", and wondered if it would be appropriate. I was shocked to see that only one person had replied. And again wondered is discussing our bad experiences as escorts "bad" or looked down on for some reason? Is there a place we can talk about stuff like this? Do good clients take offense to this type of topic? I can say that reading through some of the issues that clients post on this site has helped me a great deal. I get see their point of view which helps me to be more understanding and accommodating. I think I am rambling now, so I am gonna stop.. But I looking forward to getting some feedback on this . ~Peace xo

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...My first reaction to the original post was "wow I'm not touching that", and wondered if it would be appropriate. I was shocked to see that only one person had replied. And again wondered is discussing our bad experiences as escorts "bad" or looked down on for some reason? Is there a place we can talk about stuff like this? Do good clients take offense to this type of topic?...

In asking the original question, I wasn't looking to have escorts discuss the details of their specific bad experiences -- I was just wondering if Michael V's recent spate of bad luck was unique to him or was happening to many others. And I was curious if anyone had a hypothesis to explain such an increase.

 

To answer your last question: I think an open discussion by escorts of their bad experiences can contribute a lot towards better understanding between escorts and clients. I learned something from Michael's post, and I suspect he learned something from the feedback he got (at least from the respectful responses). I know only a few people on this board personally; all, in my opinion, are "good clients". I'm certain they would welcome further discussion here of the rewards and frustrations of escorting.

[Guest Conley]

Being stiffed:::::::::

 

It's the economy simply, I have 2 four year degree's in Psychology and what I know, is people at times of hard ship people will cut out or eliminate the fun things they do in life. The services we offer our clients are very fun and sometimes can be addicting to some, so; people want alot for nothing and if they don't get it, hence this entire concept.

[Guest RyanCade]

In asking the original question, I wasn't looking to have escorts discuss the details of their specific bad experiences -- I was just wondering if Michael V's recent spate of bad luck was unique to him or was happening to many others. And I was curious if anyone had a hypothesis to explain such an increase.

 

Gotcha.. Thank you for clarifying for me. I haven't noticed an "increase" but I do find that the issues I have are common and they do tend to come in clusters.

 

I think an open discussion by escorts of their bad experiences can contribute a lot towards better understanding between escorts and clients.

 

A better understanding is what I get by reading about issues clients have and find it very beneficial. Better understanding = healthier, more satisfying relationships

 

all, in my opinion, are "good clients". I'm certain they would welcome further discussion here of the rewards and frustrations of escorting.

 

I agree, all are "good clients" with good intentions and my best interest in mind. They would never intentionally disrespect, offend or short change an escort. And then there are "Bad Encounters" with "Bad people" who's actions are premeditated & intentional, and taken without regard to the obvious negative impact on the escort.. I don't suspect these people would care anything about this site and less likely to be a contributing participant.

 

On the other side of this there are so many wonderful clients who have been trampled on by "Bad People" calling themselves "escorts" and My heart goes out to these guys. Some of the things "Good Clients" have gone through and and yet they continue to treat us like kings. These guys are amazing and deserve the same royal treatment. Ok Ok I'll shut up again.. for now

[raulgmanzo]

Most of us (people in general) tend to look for trends based on our personal experience.

 

Generally I have had very good experiences but I had a couple periods of non-stop flakes, frauds, misfortune, last minute cancellations and the like. In the end I have to admit that huge as it was for me it was still too small a data set to really divine a trend in the larger escorting world.

 

But my observations and then reactions did seem to worsen the situation. After a several (possibly random) cancellations in a row I started to get desperate, answering blocked calls (rarely worthwhile) and taking bookings which went nowhere and which I should have politely declined. Then I started feeling very depressed and defensive which probably caused some otherwise stellar clients to have second thoughts.

 

I know not everybody responds the same and I sometimes roll my eyes at suggestions to look at the positive etc. There are trends that are hard if not impossible for an individual to improve. But it seems that no matter the situation we always have the power to make it worse, sometimes with seemingly nothing more than negative thoughts.

 

My business seems incredibly random, sometimes busy on the weekend other times busier during the week. Where my ad appears in men4RentNows rotation and the weather seem to play a much larger role than the state of the economy.

 

Over all I feel very very lucky that my experience in this industry has been overwhelmingly positive. Thanks in a big way to so many here in Hooville, both clients and escorts.

[Guest RyanCade]

Bravo!!

 

QUOTE]Generally I have had very good experiences

 

Very much true for me as well. In two years, I never once considered giving up the job due to a single, or cluster of bad experiences. FYI It's the only job i can say that about...

 

periods of non-stop flakes, frauds, misfortune, last minute cancellations and the like.

 

These occur on a regular basis in my experience. though there are periods it seems to increase and cause a great deal of frustration and anxiety.

 

But my observations and then reactions did seem to worsen the situation.

 

I know not everybody responds the same and I sometimes roll my eyes at suggestions to look at the positive etc. There are trends that are hard if not impossible for an individual to improve. But it seems that no matter the situation we always have the power to make it worse, sometimes with seemingly nothing more than negative thoughts.

 

I have noticed this in my own experience as well. For me, being aware of my part (the affect my reactions have on this as well many other situations in life, is the first and most important ingredient to self improvement. Though it's much easier to blame others and play the :confused:helpless victim.

 

After a several (possibly random) cancellations in a row I started to get desperate,

 

I commend you for your honesty here. None of us like to show weakness, (especially in this line of work). Fear of financial insecurity creeps up fast when business isn't going so well for me, and I suspect others as well. I have learned to relax and just know the money will be there when it is needed, it always is. I have yet to go broke in this business, I have always been blessed abundantly.

 

Over all I feel very very lucky that my experience in this industry has been overwhelmingly positive. Thanks in a big way to so many here in Hooville, both clients and escorts.

 

Focusing on the positive and what I do have and being grateful for those things, is a great way increase the abundance in my life.. Thanks again for your contribution on this subject.