Body types: Natural vs "Supplements"

[devonhunter]

I workout hard, but I don't use steroids or human growth hormone. I'm scared of the side effects. I've dated men who use them, and they're impossible to be around. Plus I have other valid concerns about them.

 

However...

 

So many adult entertainers are injecting, and now I feel like I can't compete unless I do too...

 

Are there still patrons and clients who are interested in natural builds, or am I doomed if I don't juice?

[Guest AndrewJames]

Bad Idea

 

There are some guys who are using steroids, but I don't think it is as much the norm as you would think. Trying to overcome your natural body type is just a short term fix, and maintaining that "look" requires shifting to ever more dangerous steroids. It is better to adjust your workout so that you spend more time on the areas that seem to build up slower. And make friends with good photographers.

Steroids don't just build muscles they also change your face, some of the clients really go for that look, a couple serious juicers get lots of comments in here. But the long term health cost is very great. And when a particular steroid stops working, if you don't go to a stronger one, you lose all that muscle very quickly, and the result is not attractive at all.

Plus the danger of cancer, heart failure and shrunken testicles, is very real.

 

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[Guest Musclestudoh]

Like Andrew mentioned, it's not the norm that most guys are on steroids. NYC and Miami do have a multitude of "altered" guys. Just take a look around RB and M4RN and you will find that predominately most escorts have athletic to average builds.

 

It's a slippery slope once you decide that the "altered" route is the way you want to go. Being on the "big screen" certainly does put added pressure to have a certain look or be "perfect" but if you look at the majority of amateur porn models they have a nice lean physique and not a roided out look. It ultimately depends on how much you want to risk and how important is it to your career in porn if that is the route you are going.

 

It's obvious there is a culture for that type of escort and a clientèle that prefers an overly muscular look. It would take a considerable amount of time to achieve that even with "steroids" not to mention that to get it right you have to do a lot of research. Plus, you have experience with the "rage" that can come along with that type of lifestyle. The temptation is there. I know, as someone that is constantly being accused of being on steroids.(I am natural) But I have been working out for years and a large part of my life is devoted to health and fitness...plus I have great discipline (great genetics don't hurt .) The majority of my success is due to my diet and nutrition. You may not want my type of size and may just want to add muscle. It's not easy but for lasting results that won't send you to the poorhouse or to the morgue you are better off educating yourself. Find someone that has the physique that you want to attain and ask how they achieved their results. Finding a great photographer can also help enhance your best attributes. I can tell you first hand that outwardly, muscle guys get lots of attention, but it's (not to sound sappy) how you present yourself as a person with your clients that ultimately seals the deal for lasting success. IMHO

 

You will get a certain following but it's your reputation that will carry you on if this ends up being your path. Ok, that's my two cents!

I workout hard, but I don't use steroids or human growth hormone. I'm scared of the side effects. I've dated men who use them, and they're impossible to be around. Plus I have other valid concerns about them.

 

However...

 

So many adult entertainers are injecting, and now I feel like I can't compete unless I do too...

 

Are there still patrons and clients who are interested in natural builds, or am I doomed if I don't juice?

[whipped guy]

The outer packaging may be the hook, but...

 

...it's (not to sound sappy) how you present yourself as a person with your clients that ultimately seals the deal for lasting success... it's your reputation that will carry you on if this ends up being your path. Ok, that's my two cents!

 

Sean... Not sappy at all... just some sage advice this is worth much more than simply "two cents".

[+ sf westcoaster]

As a client, I agree 100% with what Sean has said. Repeat clients are not the result of looks or body sculpture, they are based on how you responded to the client and all of the attributes you bring to the encounter.

[+ nycman]

I couldn't agree more with what's already been said.

 

I've got several friends who use steroids. After a few weeks,

they're unbearable to be around. I can't imagine PAYING to be

around them.

 

Externally beautiful?...yes.

 

Internally ugly?....yes.

 

At the end of the day a "great" escort needs inner and outer beauty

to survive long term. Looks fade, and even if they don't, physical

perfection quickly gets boring. The guys I see repeatedly aren't the

ones with the most perfect bodies. My "regulars" are the escorts with

whom I have the best chemistry.

 

When an escort tells me they're starting a cycle...I tell them to call

me when it's over.

[+ Lucky]

I don't think it is a question of steroids or not, it is more important that you find your niche and settle into it. If you don't want to use steroids, but have other attributes, clients will find you.

 

Rather than being a choice between a steroid escort or a non-steroid escort, I think customers compare attributes. The advent of websites like this make it possible for clients to broaden the field of acceptable escort choices by going national. Many here can afford to fly in the guy they want no matter where he lives. So, you may lose out to a guy from out of town who has more to offer than you do, whereas if you only had to compete with guys in your local market, you might have been the one chosen instead of the guy from out of town. Does that make sense?

[Guest RianB]

I workout hard

 

So many adult entertainers are injecting, and now I feel like I can't compete unless I do too...

 

Are there still patrons and clients who are interested in natural builds, or am I doomed if I don't juice?

 

Just remember one thing...any good trainer will say, "dont work out hard, work out smart!"

 

Personally I havent met anyone who does steroids (yet) but Im sure its not too far away. How long you been working out anyway?

 

If its less than a year, I can tell you from testimonial that I used to be a very thin and skinny guy around this same time last year. People talked about how I was skin and bones, starving, and all that other B.S. There was nothing wrong with me, clients still found me attractive, but my metabo was very fast AND I wasnt working out or eating too well.

 

Then, one day I ventured into the gym and within a matter of weeks my body changed so fast and I put on so much muscle weight that when I went back to visit Miami all of the people I knew just couldnt believe how much I had grew (naturally). I couldnt even use some of my photos from last summer because my body is like 20 pounds heavier.

 

It shouldnt take you long, albeit there is ALOT of pain and soreness in the beginning but the benefits will show. If you been working out less than a year...even more so. Dont feel you have to be a beefed up cow man LOL, not everyone prefers that so I dont ever want to hear you say that again!

 

Even now, although natural I been scrutinized for taking steroids and also I have had guys tell me to 'slow it down'. But I also like my build and many of my old crushes back home were re-attracted to me all over again. So you'll be fine without it. In addition to this extra mass...I've gained some unwanted mass, my metabolism has seemed to slow and now Im working on losing some unwanted 'mass'. I cant just eat whatever I want anymore

[Romann]

IMHO, it helps to know your body-type and what it is capable of but also understand that there are limitations and some things that one's body just can't achieve. Plus, I think some of it (maybe more) has to do with genetics and one's body frame along with all the other requirements for having a "nice" body. There is a certain amount of weight that only my body frame can support and then it becomes counter productive and possibly hazardous to joints and muscle fibers.

 

More importantly... it helps to be confident and secure with how you look but also the service that you provide. While each person has a certain look or series of looks that initially attact them to other people, at some point there needs to be a mental connection - the physical looks will only carry you so far and for so many visits if not just the 1st appointment. Having a great personality and other skills will only enhance the total package along with the physical appearance.

 

Hope this helps.

 

I workout hard, but I don't use steroids or human growth hormone. I'm scared of the side effects. I've dated men who use them, and they're impossible to be around. Plus I have other valid concerns about them.

 

However...

 

So many adult entertainers are injecting, and now I feel like I can't compete unless I do too...

 

Are there still patrons and clients who are interested in natural builds, or am I doomed if I don't juice?

[Romann]

I must say, HOT harness!

 

There are some guys who are using steroids, but I don't think it is as much the norm as you would think. Trying to overcome your natural body type is just a short term fix, and maintaining that "look" requires shifting to ever more dangerous steroids. It is better to adjust your workout so that you spend more time on the areas that seem to build up slower. And make friends with good photographers.

Steroids don't just build muscles they also change your face, some of the clients really go for that look, a couple serious juicers get lots of comments in here. But the long term health cost is very great. And when a particular steroid stops working, if you don't go to a stronger one, you lose all that muscle very quickly, and the result is not attractive at all.

Plus the danger of cancer, heart failure and shrunken testicles, is very real.

 

http://www.rentmen.com/media/pix/i1t1l9cxab0y67q.jpg

[jackcali]

Are there still patrons and clients who are interested in natural builds, or am I doomed if I don't juice?

 

To answer your specific question, there are plenty of clients who are interested in natural builds. I'm one of them. I'm not a real fan of the big muscle guys, even if they don't juice but devote a lot of time to working out. At least those guys look 'natural'. A lot of juicers are obviously that because of the disproportionality of their bodies -- they add too much bulk to what's essentially a small, thin frame. I know there are lots of guys who feel like I do -- just think of all the twinks on escort sites. Someone's got to be hiring them. If there are clients who like skinny twinks, there are clients who like toned natural builds.

 

I think the other advice on this thread is exactly right. Do what you feel most comfortable doing. Escorts must have confidence in their looks and bodies, so work out hard, watch what you eat, and be happy with your body. There's no better turn-on for a client than seeing an escort enjoying taking his clothes off and being confident about the beauty of his body, and no worse turn-off than the escort be embarrassed or insecure about his body. It's all attitude.

 

Good luck.

[whipped guy]

Excellent advice

 

Do what you feel most comfortable doing. Escorts must have confidence in their looks and bodies, so work out hard, watch what you eat, and be happy with your body. There's no better turn-on for a client than seeing an escort enjoying taking his clothes off and being confident about the beauty of his body, and no worse turn-off than the escort be embarrassed or insecure about his body. It's all attitude.

 

jackcali... I concur. This is excellent advice.

 

Now personally I prefer a bodybuilder's physique. Consequently, I have witnessed a steroid injection or two over the years and in fairness I have been turned on by bodies of the steroid induced variety. However, there is something about a body that is built from hard work as opposed to "the juice" that makes it more appealing. Part of it has to do with the feel of the body itself... it just seems to be more supple. Also, I would rather hire a guy with a less than perfect body that has a great attitude, skills, and personality as opposed to a guy with a so-called "perfect" physique.

 

Incidentally, I have found that some guys who take steroids do so because they are never really satisfied with their bodies... hence they ironically at times exhibit a bit of insecurity... In fact one person admitted as much... Others take the juice because they enjoy being full of themself... Either way as jackcali notes there is an attitude problem.

[devonhunter]

well that settles it then - no juice. thanks very much for the input.

[Guest RianB]

Hey...just look at it this way...

 

everything we eat has been pumped with growth hormones and steroids, so either way you'll be fine, no need for the overkill

[Gar1eth]

well that settles it then - no juice. thanks very much for the input.

 

Just as another voice from the client side of view--I will say that I prefer muscular escorts--in general you will not see me attracted to twinks. There have been guys on steroids that I have been attracted to--but there are also guys with natural muscles that I like too. In my opinion you Devon, Sean, Romann, Rian, and Andrew all look great. I would happily see any of you..

 

Gman

[Guest AndrewJames]

This has been a bit one sided, we have not heard from any working guys who say that they take steroids. I guess, if you need to do it in order to be confident getting naked in front of a client...

 

 

Just as another voice from the client side of view--I will say that I prefer muscular escorts--in general you will not see me attracted to twinks. There have been guys on steroids that I have been attracted to--but there are also guys with natural muscles that I like too. In my opinion you Devon, Sean, Romann, Rian, and Andrew all look great. I would happily see any of you..

 

Gman

 

Let me know when, Gman

[devonhunter]

Just as another voice from the client side of view--I will say that I prefer muscular escorts--in general you will not see me attracted to twinks. There have been guys on steroids that I have been attracted to--but there are also guys with natural muscles that I like too. In my opinion you Devon, Sean, Romann, Rian, and Andrew all look great. I would happily see any of you..

 

Gman

 

 

let me know, babe