Counting Money and Tipping

[JT Brooklyn]

At the price of show tickets these days, I would hardly call that a "little gift"!

 

Personally I would rather Gift a Guy who appreciates tickets to the WWE as opposed to "Oklahoma"

[whipped guy]

Another Classic

 

Personally I would rather Gift a Guy who appreciates tickets to the WWE as opposed to "Oklahoma"

 

Classic and I do mean CLASSIC JT!

 

Now classic Broadway is great... there is nothing wrong with that... but a guy who appreciates a jump from the turnbuckle over a surrey with the fringe on top would make it in my book any day as well!

[Guest LeoWalker]

Well, good for you.

 

I am sure that escorting is a tough business even if it's fun now and then (or even most of the time) and that it can wear on a person with the wrong personality. I'm in a service business (not escorting, lol, I don't even want to THINK about what kind of guys would be willing to pay me for that service), and I find that sometimes I just hate my clients, even the good ones, mostly because I need a vacation or a break from work or I feel unappreciated and just need a "good job, Jack" or "thanks, Jack" from a client. I find that some of my colleagues are bitter enough that they feel that way about clients ALL the time. What distinguishes a professional is the ability to hide those feelings when they are there and still do your best for your clients. In my line of work, it's not that hard to hide those feelings, but in something as intimate as escorting, it must be tough.

 

Distinguishing the professional in how they handle the situation...Similarly, though I enjoy reading the posts here from time to time, I find that this forum cannot act as a medium of true discussion on these topics. I slipped and said I collect upfront and counted money. That's a marketing mistake as I've now been judged and labeled by quite a few (loss of potential income). It's not because I've been ripped off or am afraid of being ripped off that I do what I do...it's just simply how I think things in this business should be ran. Likewise, I don't desire/look forward to tips...my rate has been established with my financial needs in consideration. The relationship I strive to build with my regulars is worth much more than a mere $10 or $20 that I may receive. This is way too personal of a service; no matter what I do there will be people unhappy...and conversely I could do nothing (or simply be myself) and am completely loved by my client. It's personal. Chemistry is absolutely key.

 

I find it interesting how people within my practice of collecting money are disregarded as unethical and poor performers. The money is paid for time. I give my time and my effort...and truly am interested in pleasing my client. Sometimes that doesn't happen. It's life. It's sex. I am continuing to correct people I meet my age that believe good sex comes solely from physical attraction. No, great sex comes from a connection and appreciation for one another. This is coming from someone who has a lot of sex with people I do not find physically attractive. Now, in the case that I have sex with someone I find very hot the physical takes more of a role...but even then I'd say chemistry is at least 75% of the equation to good sex.

 

To address a few other random topics of this thread:

 

I've maintained a good relationship (bf) for over a year (in the past). The only danger I'd say in being an escort and having a relationship with another escort is that you'd tend to spend too much time together. Otherwise, there is a stigma...but it plays out as just one of hundreds of things someone could reject you for.

 

With that in mind, my entire extended family is aware of my professional choice. My grandmother was visiting me earlier tonight here in Chicago (where I'm living for the month of August) and was talking about how her husband was working her really hard lately, pointing in his and my direction started, "He's been hustling..." A friend of mine who's also an escort and I both started laughing. I guess being a hustler is a bad thing, but it was pretty funny.

 

Really both of these issues are similar in that they rely heavily on the connection and mindset of the people involved. I'm lucky to have a very loving and accepting family...and also good, loyal clients whom I connect with and appreciate their time mutually. I tell everyone frequently that I'm glad to do what I do and the opportunities it provides me in life.

 

BTW, thank you to those who took the time to try to explain to me their point of view privately in regards to the other thread about Minneapolis. It was appreciated.

[JT Brooklyn]

Goodlooking Leo is definitely right..."Great" Sex does come from a Connection!

 

"Good" Sex comes from a 'Working Guy' who with Experience has become a Great Actor!

 

Whether he is Paid "Before or After" his Performance!

[Guest greatness]

well

 

I agree that everyone has his own way of running his business. I'll certainly hire a well reviewed escort even though they collect money upfront.

 

 

Distinguishing the professional in how they handle the situation...Similarly, though I enjoy reading the posts here from time to time, I find that this forum cannot act as a medium of true discussion on these topics. I slipped and said I collect upfront and counted money. That's a marketing mistake as I've now been judged and labeled by quite a few (loss of potential income). It's not because I've been ripped off or am afraid of being ripped off that I do what I do...it's just simply how I think things in this business should be ran. Likewise, I don't desire/look forward to tips...my rate has been established with my financial needs in consideration. The relationship I strive to build with my regulars is worth much more than a mere $10 or $20 that I may receive. This is way too personal of a service; no matter what I do there will be people unhappy...and conversely I could do nothing (or simply be myself) and am completely loved by my client. It's personal. Chemistry is absolutely key.

 

I find it interesting how people within my practice of collecting money are disregarded as unethical and poor performers. The money is paid for time. I give my time and my effort...and truly am interested in pleasing my client. Sometimes that doesn't happen. It's life. It's sex. I am continuing to correct people I meet my age that believe good sex comes solely from physical attraction. No, great sex comes from a connection and appreciation for one another. This is coming from someone who has a lot of sex with people I do not find physically attractive. Now, in the case that I have sex with someone I find very hot the physical takes more of a role...but even then I'd say chemistry is at least 75% of the equation to good sex.

 

To address a few other random topics of this thread:

 

I've maintained a good relationship (bf) for over a year (in the past). The only danger I'd say in being an escort and having a relationship with another escort is that you'd tend to spend too much time together. Otherwise, there is a stigma...but it plays out as just one of hundreds of things someone could reject you for.

 

With that in mind, my entire extended family is aware of my professional choice. My grandmother was visiting me earlier tonight here in Chicago (where I'm living for the month of August) and was talking about how her husband was working her really hard lately, pointing in his and my direction started, "He's been hustling..." A friend of mine who's also an escort and I both started laughing. I guess being a hustler is a bad thing, but it was pretty funny.

 

Really both of these issues are similar in that they rely heavily on the connection and mindset of the people involved. I'm lucky to have a very loving and accepting family...and also good, loyal clients whom I connect with and appreciate their time mutually. I tell everyone frequently that I'm glad to do what I do and the opportunities it provides me in life.

 

BTW, thank you to those who took the time to try to explain to me their point of view privately in regards to the other thread about Minneapolis. It was appreciated.

[jackcali]

Sorry if you took what I was saying wrong, Leo. The post of mine that you quoted was about attitude, not about collecting money. And I think my only point above (way above) on this thread is that asking for money up front is a negative for me, not that you're not a professional or a good escort because of it.

 

When I meet an escort, especially one I've never met before, my goal (and I hope the escort's too) is to establish a good connection. For me, I like to think that the escort and I are two people attracted to one another for whatever reason (not looks in my case, haha) who have, ah, come together. That fantasy helps me make the connection, and that brief connection is what makes the experience worthwhile to me and makes me a regular and generous client. I know it's about the money, but the escort asking for money up front makes it more difficult to forget that fact in the moment.

 

But I don't know the escorting business, Leo, so I don't know how often you have issues about getting paid. Maybe asking up front avoids a lot of problems, and if it's a good practice, then you should do it. I'm just saying that from my perspective it makes the experience a little less enjoyable. Other things matter, of course. An otherwise great experience will still be a great experience, but a little less great, and a bad experience is a bad experience no matter when the escort asks for the money. There are all sorts of clients out there, and I was just sharing the perspective of this one.

[Guest LeoWalker]

Sorry if you took what I was saying wrong, Leo. The post of mine that you quoted was about attitude, not about collecting money.

 

Actually, I completely agree with what you said in your post I quoted. It probably wasn't the most appropriate post to respond to but yours was the one that caused me to actually put my thoughts together and respond to this thread. Your statement about what separates professionals is completely true; it just caused me to wonder about some of the things I say here...maybe they're not as professional as they should be. There are certain policies that may exist within a business that don't need to be advertised to the entire world.

 

My shock at some people's responses was directed towards a few other posters on this thread and posts on the other one a few months ago started because an escort was having issues while on tour in Minneapolis (a warning thread). No way what you said offended me...it was a good post. =)

 

Lately I've been toying with the idea of hiring a fellow escort. There's a kind of rush involved with this fantasy of mine. The experience has so far allowed me to watch myself and see the different things that I feel while thinking about it. I'm sure some of the things I feel are a bit different than what many on here feel when considering to hire someone but many of them are probably the same. I've already began to change a few things simply based on what I've felt so far--haven't even hired one yet, lol. It's kind of cool to be able to reverse the tables for a bit.

 

Brooklyn Guy, funny post.

[jackcali]

I'm glad to read that we're in agreement and no offense was taken at my posts. I'd hate for you and me to get sideways . . . in that way, anyway.

 

I think it would be a great learning experience for an escort to hire another escort every now and then. He would get to experience how the other escort presents himself in the initial contact and how he sets up the session, he might begin to understand the issues clients have about reliability, timeliness and preparedness, and of course the session itself would probably be great, given that the very hot client is probably a pleasant surprise to the hired escort.

[Guest TexHunk69]

I consider any discussion of money or demanding of payment up front to be unwise and off-putting. I won't even consider anyone who asks for payment in advance, and if it happened to me after I arrived, I would politely say that I think a mistake has been made and leave. That being said, I suppose I wouldn't mind an escort counting his money at the end to make sure there weren't any misunderstandings. I never discuss money in any conversations or in writing (as that is illegal. wink) but I do honor whatever "donation" may have been listed on the escort's ad. And I do tend to tip, as everyone but one man I have met have exceeded my expectations!

[mansniffing]

Tough Call Here

 

I go with Polonius in Hamlet:

 

"To thine own self be true."

 

If you want to tip, do so. If you feel the fee is enough, don't tip. Either way, the escort comes out a winner.