Moving from massage to other things

[Guest Lance09]

So you have picked your guy and you are on the table and both are nude. The massage has been great and the understanding is a happy ending manually. You now would like might like it to go further. Do you pay for the massage and then make arrangements for anything else? I am sure a more experienced person with masseurs could handle it easilly but thats not me lol

[+ Italiano]

Well it really depends on the previous arrangement and on the guy.

 

In my experience it has changed from guy to guy, but I have never paid more than the agreed initial amount. I always ask before if the masseur offers a "happy ending", if he works naked and if he allows "some touching".

According to the reply I know usually what to expect.

 

It has happened (luckily so! ) a few times that from the beginning of the "sensual" part of the massage we ended doing all kind of stuff, but I think in this case it's a matter of mutual chemistry...

Once I remember with a masseur in NY that after 5 minutes from the beginning of the massage we were having hot sex on his bed and he didn't even charge me a buck...

 

It has also happened that the masseur is cold as a fish and the "happy" ending is most mechanical and unsexy.

 

It has also happened that the masseur is very hot (Leo in NY for example, who actually states it quite clearly in his ad) but that he doesn't remove his sweat pants or touch you in any sensual way. At least with me.

 

If this is your first one, try to stick with a masseur who has good reviews!

 

Good luck.

[bakopanda]

It depends . . .

 

"The massage has been great and the understanding is a happy ending manually. You now would like might like it to go further."

 

It depends on the body language/signals of the masseur, after he asks you to turn over. If he moves to bend over my head and his genitals are in my face, I see that as an invitation for oral contact. If he moves to kneel between my legs, I see that as a possible signal for frottage, anal contact, etc. Most masseurs will move to the side to perform the happy ending. If they stand snug against the massage table/bed, I take that as a signal that they do not welcome a hand job to them. However, if they position their body to make it easy for you to manipulate their genitals or rub their butt, I take that as a signal for at least a handjob.

 

I have never paid an additional "escort" rate after an erotic massage. However, I always book for a two hour erotic massage with a happy ending, and tip for extra service.

[JT Brooklyn]

Going Further

 

With all the Newbies going into Massage or in alot of cases BodyWork (No Formal Trainig) at least in NYC. I would ask ALL Questions about what will be going on Before the Fact!

 

IF your just looking to get Lucky with a Massage Rate don't count on it. Ask IF the guy also has "other" rates

[+ g56whiz]

"Ask IF the guy also has "other" rates"

 

WOW How simple and diplomatic. Thanks you BG

[josephga]

I was lurking lol and decided to ring in. As a massage therapist a great number of us won't talk about certain things in emails or over the phone. Some including me wont even promise a release in a email or over the phone. If a guy calls and asks if there's a release? I tell them all sessions are hand contact only.

or if the ask how sensual is your massage? i will tell them theres no oral or anal contact.. the more sexual questions a client asks the more they will come off as being LE and most likely won't get a booking.. I suggest when hiring pick the person you think might be the best at giving the best therapeutic massage and if more happens fine. if not at least you got a fantastic massage. In my 11 years no ones coming back for seconds if the therapeutic part isn't fantastic..

[guyfouryou]

I have been in this situation a few times--actually again recently. On occasion the massage turns into full service but, other than the touching agreed for the massage session, I let the therapist initiate how far he wanted to go. Massage sessions typically stick to the fee while escorting sticks more closely to the hours spent together. Having said that, therapists are sexual being too so they may be "feeling it" with you so I let them make the call. It's a bonus for me!

 

Recently, I called up for a massage with new, promising guy to find out he was also escort that I had been considering. During massage asked him if he provided more services--confirmed he escorted. We chatting a bit during massage which is not usual for me for I found it pretty hot to here about his services. Again, I let him take it as far as he wanted to go. I mean, it's pretty obvious when you are talking about escorting that you'd be open to more!

 

He DID do more than typical erotic massage but did not go all the way. So, I kept his number and scheduled a proper escort session few weeks later. He was into it and it was AMAZING. I'm sure one reason was because he appreciated that I wasn't trying to get full service for the price of a massage.

 

Now on the flip side, I went for repeat with a massage guy that HAD gone all the way though he is not an escort. Again, I put the signals out there but let him choose how far to go. It ended up oral and release for both but not full service even though the last time. If you try to force it, it will backfire.

 

BTW, totally agree with josephga. I will not usually return for a massage if the guy can't give a decent session.

[Guest Lance09]

Thanks guys

 

I think its apparent I need a combo real massage with some escort or sexual thing at the end. I see two, Chris-super hung grad student, and Peter. Any others? I have seen Frank Williams name mentioned in several posts but can't find him listed anywhere. Again thanks, and any other suggestions will be welcome.

[buttlvr99]

What I do is tell the massage guy what I would like the session to be like over the phone and then let him decide if he will agree. I generally go to someone new if a couple of regular guys I usually go to are not available or if I just want to try someone new. Basically I like a good full body for at least 45 minutes of the hour and then a release at the end while I can feel and look at their butt up close.