Gaiety Muscle and the Disillusion (sp?) of a Fan

[noviceny]

I was gonna post this under the Gaiety post for the week, but wanted to give it its own post. I also posted it on MuscleServiceStation and really wrote it for there, but figured it would be good for you guys too and maybe you had similar situations :

 

 

> Well, tonight was most definitely an interesting night at the Gaiety. Guys from MSS would definitely have a good time this week watching the show. However, for one star struck fan, it marked the end of an era.

 

Our story begins with my rant on parking in NYC. Wasnt too bad tonight...$20...that was my fault cause I should have left earlier and done Munimeter. I was actually gonna see "Assault on Precint 13" but my friends pussied out. Fuck them cause Friday I will be seing "Boogeyman" and I will refuse to see their stupid movie !! : )

 

Anyway, go in to the Gaiety and I walk past the security guard. I always say hi to him and take my seat in the back. I dont know why...maybe its because Im sitting in the back,,,but the guard always looks at me for prolonged periods of time during the show. I always keep my hands in view so I dont know what he thinks Im doing. I was wondering what he would do if I just dropped my pants and started going to town on my piece !!

 

First out was Tyler...this kid is young...real young...like "Can I see your liscense" young...like "Do you have your high school ID" young. But good looking and seems friendly enough.

 

The came Mike...what can I say...this guy looks like he should be bronzed !!! I was like most, being attracted to his body, but now I feel a new feeling coming over me. It is envy...or jealousy...I cant decide which !! J/K He looks great and has got enough quality muscle for guys on this board (but not for all guys on this board). Very strong, flexible and gymnastic level balance as seen my his stunts...yes I call them stunts cause they are that good !!

 

Tristan came next...good muscle...dances well too...liked his routine

 

Then came Johnny...Latino muscle...gotta love him...perfect shape and...cant forget...Latino (gotta love la raza)

 

Now, for the man that probably would win the award for best body this evening, especially for a muscle crowd. Some may argue that Mike is more bellied and they may be right. But Chad has him in size and they are comporable in cut, hardness and symetry.

 

Chad did not really flex on stage but he flexed in the lounge. Crazy peaked bis and every thing else was just as good. I did not come to the Gaiety this evening with the intention of seeing if anyone was available, but Chad had something in his favor...

 

I know that many guys have favorite porn stars and favorite videos. I am not really in to hardcore porn. The shit that they show at Gaiety between shows almost makes me puke. Im not casting dispursions on any one who likes it, but when one guy jerks off in to another guys mouth I get freaked out and feel sick. Guess its the last bit of my heterosexuality coming out.

 

I do have a "number"of wrestling videos from Can AM and BG east however. One of my favorite videos actually has Chad in it. Its called Hotel Hell and is basically just guys wrestling in a hotel room. It has no guy on guy sex scenes and just j/o stuff. Chad had good muscle in the vid but has put on about 15 lbs of quality muscle since then.

 

I asked him about his videos and he was cool about it; glad that I noticed from the vids and glad I enjoyed it. Did I say that he looked great ? Quality defined muscle...I felt myself thinking "Hmmm, maybe..."

 

We talked a bit and he asked me if I was interested in a private. I said maybe, but I wanted to see the rest of the show. He was up next and his show was very good. Good dancer and did I mention that he is in incredible shape ?

 

Now this is the good part : After his show we talked and he asked again what I thought about a private. At this point, I was succumbing to the impulse buy mentality and was no longer thinking, "HMMM, maybe" but instead, "Damn, its between him and Johnny !!" I was honest and said that I was also interested in Johnny, to which his response was, "What are you, price shopping ?" That didnt really sit right with me and I felt it was a little pushy but I figured he's trying to make a sale. I stated that I was not price shopping and figured that the going rate was $200. I also said that I wanted to see Johnny face to face. I didnt want to be a dick and say I wanted to see if Johnny's attitude was more inviting, but thats what I was thinking.

 

Now here is something I never did before. Maybe cause I was stupid... maybe cause I never had too much of a problem with session time...I said, "Thats $200 for an hour right ?" Now get ready for this :

 

He replies, "I cant pose for an hour"..."We dont have that much time between sets" and he offered "30 -45 minutes"

 

Immediately I envisioned throwing out my Can Am videos and I was really kind of saddened my the whole exchange. I still said, "Well you wouldnt be posing for an entire hour" and then just stopped saying anything else. Chad replied that a usual session was "15 minutes to 1/2 an hour." Dont remember what he said after that but it was something to the effect that 30-45 minutes was a good deal.

 

At this point I was really disappointed with this guy, and he said the decision was up to me. He hit another double bi pose and I got an erection and let him walk away : )

 

I guess I havent really got a handle on how to play this game yet. Actually, I consider it a game for me, cause its something I play for fun. But I dont consider it a game for the escort, cause its what they are doing to make money...its their business or part time business. Maybe thats why I feel like shit when someone tries to scum me or rip me off. This shit was fucked up and the best feeling Ive had in the past week was when I let this guy walk away and didnt let my dick rule my wallet.

 

I thought about this on the way home and I also have been giving this some thought for the past few weeks. I have been hiring happy for the past few months for a number of reasons including the fact that I had a bit of money to fool around with from an inheritance. The money I put aside for escort escapades is pretty much gone and I promised my self that the rest would go to student loans, car, insurance, etc. As of February 1, 2005 I am starting a new system. I am putting aside $200 to $250 a month for my extra curricular activities with an escort. I will still see Gaiety shows, but I will not hire unless the following can be met :

 

1) an hour session (hey Im not greedy...Ill take 50 minutes)

 

2) I really will have to be knocked on my ass by the guy...no more "Oh wow, he is cute" It will have to be, "Holy Shit..is that mothafucka for real !!!???"

 

3) my extremely low expectations will be stated before hand and be agreed upon...shit, I barely ask for more than flexing !!!

 

I know that most of you follow much more strict guidelines, but I have been a sucker. I have always been kind of lenient, especially with straight guys. I guess I felt kind of bad that I was "using them" to do something that does not remotely interest them, or might even disgust them. Might be my Catholic upbringing or a problem that Ive always had with over-empathizing. But no more.

 

It is a sad day here in MuscleVille...the innocence and naivety of a man is gone...hate to be a person that goes to have fun with his guard up, but guess thats part of the game. The game suddenly became a lot less fun...seriously.

 

 

BTW,

 

Pino (defined twink type) and James Defined lean muscle type who is very kind and friendly...always tells me how construction on his house is coming...he's doing it himself) danced great. Not muscle, but cool guys.<

[NY Observer]

Excellent post Novice. I think it might be time for you to change your handle, as you have clearly progressed past "Novice".

[+ bigjoey]

instead of hiring from the gaiety, i suggest you just enjoy the show and keep your dick behind your zipper. then, for good hiring experiences may i suggest hiring one of the many great new york escorts. hiring outside the gaiety will give you the full hour (or more) of time you want plus the escort (if you read the reviews) will be "full service".

 

i use to hire regularly through the gaiety when i was in new york but now i only hire regular escorts listed on this board when i go to new york. the money is not my limit but time. as an out of towner, i only have limited time and i do not want to waste it with a short posing session. from the new york escort scene, i can pick the guy who will be exactly what i want with no rush to get back to the next show.

[cityguy]

Novice,

 

I enjoyed reading your post. It reminded me of my first times at the Gaiety and my first private there, ten years ago. At the time, I remember feeling pleased about it - a whole new experience for me and the guy was wonderful to look at and be with. However, looking back at it, I was ripped off. The time was cut very short by the infamous "knock on the door" to signal the next appointment.

 

Of course, in those days I did not have the benefit of a wonderful website like this to instruct me in these things. But I did learn fast - as you are obviously doing. I am on a tight budget, and need to feel that I am getting value for my hard earned money. I follow guidelines similar to those you have stated, such as insisting on the full hour (and unlike you, I make it clear that I require much more than just "flexing"). As I don't live in New York, I only get to the Gaiety a couple of times a year. I always tell myself beforehand that I WILL NOT do any privates, as they are not good value, but just sit back and enjoy the show instead. But inevitably there is one guy in each lineup (maybe two) who I find so irresistable that I have to talk to them in the lounge about a private. I must admit that it does excite me to watch a great looking guy dancing on stage, knowing that I may soon be doing a private with him. So if it feels right after a chat in the lounge, I go for it! I have had some wonderful, memorable experiences in this way.

 

Maybe not an "innocent" experience any more, as you put it, but it can still be a very fun one.

 

 

cityguy

[JT Brooklyn]

Hey Novice.. Great Post. Your experiences Now, Many of us have gone thru.. Been there,Done that! Many would agree, The Gaiety Show is a great Entertainment Experience..Only one around of it's kind now. But you seem to have moved on, in your tastes about time spent with another guy. So the "G" guys, at least alot of them not being "Escorts" such as "Chad" have the same Boring Story! Chad wrestles under another name for Can-Am..BUT if you have seen all "his" Videos, his claim to Fame is "Jerking Off".He is Not interactive on screen, even with the other Hotties! If you are into any kind of size, you didn't miss much in that Dept! He looks Hot.. so it sells..! There are MANY Guys who you definitely would have a Great time with, for $200 Bucks for a Full Hour maybe even a little longer. I suggest you start reading the "Review" Section.. You can always set up an appointment with an Escort,after you have been to the "G"..then go have a Real Good Time, with a guy who gets into it! ALL for $20 bucks for the "G" and $200 ELSEWHERE!

[Boston Guy]

>It is a sad day here in MuscleVille...the innocence and

>naivety of a man is gone...hate to be a person that goes to

>have fun with his guard up, but guess thats part of the game.

>The game suddenly became a lot less fun...seriously.

>

 

Not sad at all. You've just learned a bit more about what is valuable to you. Many people have gone through an entire inheritance without learning any part of that lesson.

 

There were a series of threads about the Gaiety here a while back. I posted something that basically wondered why guys go to the G, since I find the show sort of boring (I like my guys up close and personal, not on a stage or a screen) and I think there are far better ways of hiring hot guys in NYC. Lots of people posted great replies about why they go to the G and why it's fun for them and great value for the dollar. It was just another example of different strokes for different folks. Clearly, for a lot of guys, going to the Gaiety is a great time and something they really look forward to and I respect that.

 

When I first found the Gaiety, a few years back, I went frequently and hired quite a few guys from there. I was always at the Marriott across the street so it was easy to get guys to the room and back in no time at all. But I found the guys, for the most part, to be exactly what you'd expect: interested in getting in and out in the shortest possible time for the maximum dollar amount and generally being relatively non-interactive. There were some definite exceptions and I had some very fun times and I learned a few tricks. One of those tricks was choosing the guy I wanted early in the evening and setting up something for after the end of the Gaety's night. I'd leave and then come back to get him later, around 10:00 pm or so. Since he wouldn't have to run back for another set, the time pressure would be off and I had some pretty good encounters, including one with a guy who preferred my suite at the Marquis to his apartment and offered to spend the night if I was willing to order room service. That didn't take much of a decison... I don't remember his stage name, but he was pretty young, tall and muscled and blond and had long hair and turned out to be fun and very interactive. And the overnight cost me $250 plus food on either end... he didn't want more money, which might be a first for Gaiety dancers. :-)

 

But, while I was hiring at the Gaiety, I was also hiring full-service escorts in NYC and the comparison between what I was getting between the two was so stark that I finally woke up and realized that I didn't want to hire from the Gaiety any more. I could simply get more value for my money -- often much more value -- by choosing an escort who offered something more closely aligned to what I was hoping to receive for my money.

 

I don't regret the times I spent at the Gaiety. I simply learned there were other things I liked more and moved on. It sounds like you've done some of the same. That's a good thing, in that you've learned a bit more about yourself. Congratulations. :-)

 

BG

[noviceny]

Hey Guys,

 

Definitely hear what you are saying...

 

The Gaiety is definitely a fun place to go for me and I like it.

 

 

Big Joey,

 

>may i suggest hiring one of the many great new york escorts. hiring outside the gaiety will give you the full hour (or more) of time you want plus the escort (if you read the reviews) will be "full service"<

 

I have done this and I continue to read the reviews. I also am not in to full service. What Chad offered was definitely what I was in to, it was just that he was trying to get away with 1/2 the time...uncool.

 

 

What up Brooklyn !!!

 

>Chad wrestles under another name for Can-Am..BUT if you have seen all "his" Videos, his claim to Fame is "Jerking Off".He is Not interactive on screen, even with the other Hotties! If you are into any kind of size, you didn't miss much in that Dept! He looks Hot.. so it sells..! There are MANY Guys who you definitely would have a Great time with, for $200 Bucks for a Full Hour maybe even a little longer. I suggest you start reading the "Review" Section..<

 

Yup, as I said, I have two of his videos. I am not that interested in size, so thats not a problem for me. He is not interactive on screen but he would have been interactive enough for me, but not for most guys. I always read the review section...even when the guys arent from around the tri-state area...makes for really good reading !!!

 

 

Boston Guy

 

>One of those tricks was choosing the guy I wanted early in the evening and setting up something for after the end of the Gaety's night. I'd leave and then come back to get him later, around 10:00 pm or so. Since he wouldn't have to run back for another set, the time pressure would be off and I had some pretty good encounters<

 

I do the same thing !!! I knew that I couldnt have been the only one ! Yeah, I tried that with Chad too, but he really was about doing the private NOW and not waiting. It really was not a question of time constraints with him, but just an unwillingness to do the job according to the "standards." I have never heard of anyone dancing at the Gaiety and asking for $200 for less than an hour...maybe the session wont last an hour but for someone to say thats a standard is just bullshit

 

 

Guys,

 

Remember, I didnt hire this guy. I also know where to go for the full hour etc. My point was just that this situation really opened my eyes to being on my guard and looking out for my interests without feeling bad about saying "No thank you"

[pauldombey]

For what it's worth, Chad showed me a wonderful time a couple of months ago. I don't doubt what noviceny says, since it's always about the money, but he really was lovely. Hard, too.

[noviceny]

Paul,

 

 

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, you lucky bastard !!! Good for you!! He has put on size and still is rock solid...

 

Did he give you the full hour ? If so, then maybe he just got greedy with me or was tired with people bullshitting him in the Lounge. I noticed that there are a lot of guys that talk and talk and talk to the dancers but never hire.

 

Either way, I didnt not appreciate the bullshit job about the time. Kid is fucken built though...he will probably do well

[+ Lucky]

"The shit that they show at Gaiety between shows almost makes me puke. Im not casting dispursions on any one who likes it, but when one guy jerks off in to another guys mouth I get freaked out and feel sick. Guess its the last bit of my heterosexuality coming out."

 

I am not sure that you considered the offensiveness of this remark before you posted it on not one, but two gay message boards. Your honesty can be admired, but you do seem to have some real conflicts in your developing sexuality. You have mentioned that you are a social worker, so I would hope that you know of some resources available to you to reconcile some of your feelings. The statement I quote, in my opinion, reflects some real homophobia, both in its words and the places you chose to say them. You seem like a really nice guy, but are you a happy, gay guy? You could be!

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

Hello Lucky, my love and my muse,

 

Is a straight girl no longer straight if she doesn't swallow? Can't she give good head and still be a good straight girl if she doesn't swallow?

 

I consider myself a fagator. I love to kiss, be kissed, fuck, be fucked, suck, be sucked, eat ass, be eaten and I adore to be pushed around a bit, slapped and spit on.

 

AND I LIKE TO DO ALL OF THE ABOVE WITH MEN.

 

BUT I have yet to swallow and I don't think I will anytime soon. Does that make me a part-time man lover? Am I offending anyone here because I don't like to swallow?

 

If a tree falls in the woods, will I still be able to collect social security in 30 years after hearing the talking Bush tonight?

 

Yours inappropriately,

V

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

Now that Lucky made me think (and he also made me hard) I must ask you something Novice,

 

>I know that many guys have favorite porn stars and favorite

>videos. I am not really in to hardcore porn. The shit that

>they show at Gaiety between shows almost makes me puke. Im not

>casting dispursions on any one who likes it, but when one guy

>jerks off in to another guys mouth I get freaked out and feel

>sick. Guess its the last bit of my heterosexuality coming

>out.

 

But what about all the other stuff in the videos like the sucking, fucking, eating, etc? Or do you prefer soft-core or, as I like to call them, family videos?

 

V

[LustinGuy]

I had such a great time with Chad on prior visits at the Gaiety I flew him out to visit me for a weekend in San Diego - this guy is not only spectacular to look at, he's really nice, interesting and fun in a lot of different ways! Just because he doesn't have the Gaiety marketing song & dance down to a science is no reason to blow him off... these are real people we are dealing with.

[+ Lucky]

My tampon dearest,

 

"Am I offending anyone here because I don't like to swallow?"

 

Not every bird comes from Capistrano! Mr. Novice said nothing about swallowing. It was the ejaculating into the mouth that made him regurgitate! This reminds me of a Brandon Lee video I saw recently where he threw his legs up over his head and came right into his own mouth. He ate it all and looked up at the camera with those pretty dark eyes... How could that make anyone who likes cock think of regurgitation? It is beyond me. But if you could post a pic of Brandon Lee...

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>My tampon dearest,

 

Only to be worthy of absorbing your flow...

 

>Not every bird comes from Capistrano! Mr. Novice said nothing

>about swallowing. It was the ejaculating into the mouth that

>made him regurgitate!

 

Thanks for clearing that up. It rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again.

 

http://whengodsattack.addr.com/quam/bill5t.jpg

[Kando]

I have to chime in here too in favor of Chad. Chad is one of the most honest people you'll ever meet in this business where, you have to admit, phoniness and pretense are the rule. The fact that he looks stunning is only gravy (incidentally, his photo on Remington's website doesn't remotely capture how he looks in real life!). I've been lucky enough to see him a few times in the past, and every time was better than the next. An absolute keeper..

 

Actually, this whole "incident" with noviceguy is a reflection of Chad's honesty, rather than his scam-artist potential, as he could've easily agreed to a one hour private and then ended it in 30 minutes anyway, which happens all too often at the Gaiety. Now THAT would've been a rip off..

[noviceny]

Wow,

 

Where do I begin ? I guess with the Chad issue.

 

I am not sure what Chad was saying when he told me that normally a session is 15 min to 30 min and that 30-45min was a good amount of time.

 

Did he think this was true ? If he did then I would agree with you guys about his honesty. However, I did not realize that he had been at the Gaiety a few times already and really wonder if he thought that to be true. It is just so far from what is usually expected.

 

> Just because he doesn't have the Gaiety marketing song & dance down to a science is no reason to blow him off... these are real people we are dealing with.<

 

I am always aware that each individual deserves respect and I believe I gave Chad respect. I didnt blow him off...he walked away from me, which I can understand, since I didnt want to do a private of that duration for $200. I believe we both handled the situation well. He wasnt rude to me...I wasnt rude to him...I just have a very hard time believing that I wasnt being hustled (being told that the standard was soemthing that it actually is NOT)...again, if I am wrong here, let me know...should I have felt something different ?

 

Alot of the Gaiety marketing and song and dance has been hustling which I define as someone trying to get the most money for the least work. If that is the case, I hope Chad never gets that song and dance down right.

 

I really have no idea why he said what he said given that 2 other people said they had a good time with him. Maybe I didnt look like he wanted and did not want to spend the time with me...could have been a number of things...I believe that I recounted the facts accurately and thats what its all about...just like other guys can recount there experience

 

I am still wondering how much the first guy at the Gaiety paid Chad and how much time he agreed on.

 

 

 

>I am not sure that you considered the offensiveness of this remark before you posted it on not one, but two gay message boards. Your honesty can be admired, but you do seem to have some real conflicts in your developing sexuality. You have mentioned that you are a social worker, so I would hope that you know of some resources available to you to reconcile some of your feelings. The statement I quote, in my opinion, reflects some real homophobia, both in its words and the places you chose to say them. You seem like a really nice guy, but are you a happy, gay guy? You could be!<

 

Lucky,

 

I most definitely have a hard time ith my sexuality, issues around it, the negativity of my family and friends, etc. I have mentioned this a number of times and I am smart enough to be in therapy. It actually is a good thing for all persons who give therapy to be in therapy, but sometimes it is not possible.

 

One of the things Ive learned is that the way we like to have sex, what we think is gross/disgusting and why we think its disgusting and our issues with sexuality can have different origins.

 

>How could that make anyone who likes cock think of regurgitation? It is beyond me. <

 

My answer to this is I think you are reading to much in to it. I worked in an HIV clinic for 4 years and I wouldnt eat out my girlfriend cause I was freaked out by the fluids and the possibility of infection. Now remember that socially I have always been with women and am now going through a type of re-education where I am learning to be comfortable with guys and the things that guys do with the things that guys have :-) Your comment about how could anyone likes cock think of regurgitating shows that you enjoy AN ACT which I dont. To jump to the conclusion that everyone who likes cock should like the act, or at least not be repulsed by it, does not necessarily follow.

 

As for homophobia, nope...my therapist tried that early on and it just doesnt fit. I neither fit the criterior for internal or external homophobia. I have, however, lived "hidden" and "in fear" for many years, but I always knew that I was the way God created me. Repressing something for so many years can really do a number on your likes/dislikes and self esteem.

 

I dont believe the statement is homophobic...I think that word is used a lot without sufficent backup. I also do not think that the fact that I put it on two message boards makes me more "homophobic" We all have fears in life, but it doesnt make our fears into phobias. Yes, I am aware of the Greek origins of the word, but we use phobia in a different connotation...it usually denotes some type of pathology.

 

As for VDN's questions as to what I like, well here goes :

 

1) I love to get a blowjob...I am very careful about getting blowjobs from people I dont know (i,e, escorts)..doesnt make me sick

 

2) I think I will like (maybe even love)fucking a guy...it looks like fun and I would love to be able to make a guy moan and cum by fucking him...doesnt make me sick

 

3) I might like getting fucked in the future if its like everybody says it is...hurts for now...doesnt make me sick...kind of cool actually

 

4) Kissing...this has always been a very personal thing to me and I really have to be attracted in more than just a physical way to the guy...I was the same way with chicks...I have actually been told by women that I fuck really well, but suck at kissing.

 

5) Rimming...freaks me out...I keep thinking of hepatitus...might like to get rimmed though

 

6)I love to make a guy cum (handjob) and play with his nipples...its real cool to make someone blow their load...its just that in the mouth freaks me out !!!

 

I was originally in to really soft core shit and still am. I do like watching a guy getting fucked now, but it was difficult before. That was definitely part of an acceptance issue and was worked out fairly well in therapy.

 

As for being a happy gay guy, well there are stages that I am going through. One gay therapist speaks of a mourning period that guys who were living and hoping for the "straight lifestyle" go through. It is a period when you have to put away or "bury" the dreams that were instilled in you by your parents like having the traditional family, being accepted by your family (which is 1/2 and 1/2 for me), having biological children with your wife ("flesh of my flesh" stuff).

 

I seem to have more to mourn than most since my fiancee (yup, a woman) was killed in 2001. This too adds to my issues. Many things died that year. I guess the only reason I am taking all the time to say all this is cause I want you to understand that my heart and my acts are not homophobic...I am a guy who is scared, but not of gays or being gay. I am scared of losing even more love than I have already lost in my life.

 

I do not mean to offend anyone and I just cause I dont want cum in my mouth, does not mean I love my gay brothers less. It just means I dont like cum in my mouth. Maybe it will take years to analyze why, but I dont think its worth it. I dont think the answer is anything that deep like homophobia though.

[pauldombey]

Regarding my meeting with Chad, it certainly was not an hour, perhaps 30-45 minutes altogther. I'm pretty sure it was 200.

[JT Brooklyn]

Hey Novice..Your replies have always been totally your thoughts. We all have likes,dislikes..I from day one never liked the "taste" of Cum..Period..Never intentionally swallowed! Of course over the years I am sure "some" has gone down the Throat! LOL.. Myself being into a Hot Guy who does "PreCum" alot, I have somewhat developed a slight, Taste for it. Like an acquiring a "Taste" for Scotch..In time you either will or will not get into things you NOW find not real turnons..As far as a Pvt with Chad or other "G" guys, they will with their Crazy skeds, Dancing ETC.. always go for the Mov'em IN and Mov'em OUT..It's the Name of the Game..And if you are into A guy "Shooting for you"..Like I Definitely am..The "G" overall ain't the Place... :+ :+ :+

[tazmanian5230]

Interesting views...

[+ Lucky]

Well, I respect your response, even as I continue to think that your phrasing was inappropriate. Good luck to you.

[noviceny]

Didnt mean to offend, Lucky...

 

You wouldnt believe (or maybe you would) how many times over the years I have been called "inappropriate" I sometimes have little tact :-)

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

Hello Novice,

 

>As for VDN's questions as to what I like, well here goes :

 

Thanks for answering! You are a good egg in my book! I love your open, raw honesty.

 

>I do not mean to offend anyone and I just cause I dont want

>cum in my mouth, does not mean I love my gay brothers less.

 

DON'T WORRY ABOUT OFFENDING ANYONE!! If someone finds something you say or do offensive then, especially around here, they will let you know but that is THEIR opinion so relax and don 't worry. To be honest, I find your taste in shoes offensive but that is for another forum.

 

>It just means I dont like cum in my mouth. Maybe it will take

>years to analyze why, but I dont think its worth it. I dont

>think the answer is anything that deep like homophobia

>though.

 

Hey, it won't take years to figure that out. Not every person likes every part of their sexuality! A straight female co-worker described straight sex as bloody, painful and annoying. BUT she loves when her man eats her out. You can still not like having bastard baby badder in your mouth and still love men! I am a big old girl and I don't care for it either. Sex is a salad bar ... if you don't like the croûtons then don't take the croûtons.

 

V

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>Didnt mean to offend, Lucky...

 

Don't EVER worry about rustling Lucky's feathers. He also finds Girl Scout cookies offensive so just remember the source. (just kidding Lucky ... love ya like a goiter).

 

>You wouldnt believe (or maybe you would) how many times over

>the years I have been called "inappropriate" I sometimes have

>little tact :-)

 

Being called inappropriate just means you are a thought provoker. I provoke a lot of thought. I have been called inappropriate by coworkers, bosses and police officers. And priests LOVE to hear my confessions. I know I make them hard!