New visitation policy at Hotel Atlantico

[grweyers]

Tri, just one more question....Will those of us that want to cuddle up for night with one of our dream guys:P still be able to do that, or will we need to register 2 persons for the night or the duration of our stay?....Thx for getting the answers to our concern's and for dealing with Carlos to sort this issue out.....

[Funseeker 22]

The problems mentioned by the hotel were the robbery "and the lobby starting to look like the lounge at the saunas", which was upsetting other (admittedly snobby) guests.

 

When I read this why does the name "TOMCAL" jump to the top of the list???

[kjun]

Jack, what do you mean when you WERE a child. Aren't we all kids today. We still have lots of fun - don't we? I know that you must be a young stud in order to have carried on as you did a couple of weeks ago.

 

the Cajun

[jackhammer91406]

Yeah, I AM a young stud...uhh...sure...that's the ticket...But there was a time when I was YOUNGER.

 

Cheers to Carlo, Tri, and the others who have seemed to resolve the Atlantico Issues.

[trilingual]

Carlo didn't mention anything about overnight guests. I don't think that should be a problem, though. It should work the same way: your visitor still has to leave his ID at the desk when he arrives and retrieve it (with your permission) when he leaves. But I'll leave this to one of the guests at the hotel, or to Carlo, to answer definitively.

[Guest MrB]

Hotel Atlantico: no problem

 

MrB reporting from the Atlantico Copacabana.

 

Though I did hear René explain to one of the other M4Mers that there was a new policy in place following an alleged incident, I have continued to invite guests to my room. There is no cause for alarm.

The rule is not being enforced, which is to say if you do not wait until 3am and then come in with a group of five noisy drunks and twelve boys , they just let you go up with no questions asked.

 

It's really very simple... as relaxed as the hotel is about the boys in the rooms, they do have other guests that are not here for the saunas.... business men, families. It just makes sense for them to expect us to be somewhat discrete and not too loud. It's what we've all been doing here for the last couple of nights and we've not had any problems.

 

Have fun!

 

 

MrB

[Brall]

All of the posts concerning the visitation policy at the Atlantico have been interesting. However, NO ONE has answered greweys and imrthr question concerning other hotels which will allow visitors to the room. Perhaps a person may want to stay some where other than at the Atlantico. Therefore; without comments, CAN'T ANYONE RECOMMEND OTHER HOTEL(S)?!?!

[mjd]

I have stayed several times at the Hotel Toledo, which is only one block from the ocean and two blocks from Jabbas and Siquiera Campos.

 

I made advance reservations for a double room and when I arrived I told them my "friends" would be joining me later. On several occasions I brought back guys--sometimes people I met during the day who had dinner with me and spent the night and on other occasions

cute young guys that I met at Incontrus disco--some garotos and others not.

 

I never had any problems or issues with the guys. In fact a few times while I was out guys stopped by the hotel hoping to see me--upon my return, the desk clerks winked and joked, "well some of your "nephews" stopped by to see you!"

 

The Toledo is an smaller and older less expensive hotel with more humble quality of accomodations than the Atlantico Copacabana, but the staff are nice, its always clean, and the rooms are as large as the Atlantico. I believe a double room is ca R$110. And the location is excellent.

 

I think the Atlantico is worth the extra money but there are alternatives. The Atlantico does bar and lock the front door late at night and you need to ring the bell and wait for the night staff to let you in.

[gulliver]

did you meant to say the Hotel Toledo bars and locks front door at night or the Atlantico. The atlantico never has in the past. Just checking.

[mjd]

Sorry, yes, it is the Toledo that locks the front door in the wee hours. BTW there is a very gay-friendly internet/phone shop located almost next door. Usually busy with cute collegiate types. And the Restaurant Dona Ann is a terrific neighborhood Italian restaurant.

 

Also I have stayed twice at the Excelsior on Avenida Atlantico just across the side street from Maxims. They allowed guests but were required to "check in ID" at the front desk. Frankly if this becomes the policy of Atlantico I think it's a move for the better. Proving identity and have one's ID card held by management is an extra reason for garotos to behave honorably.

[+ Axiom2001]

When super-hung Russo from Apollus came to see me in March of this year, he rang my room to tell me that he had checked in at the front desk; he gave me his real name instead of his escort name. I was surprised, as I'd thought he'd just enter the hotel and elevator without having to stop at the desk. I did not question his or the hotel's actions. After Russo left-- the desk clerk rang my room to inquire about my safety, etc. All was fine, and that was the end of this!

 

I have no quarrel about the Atlantico's policy; they required the women (whom my friend and I saw in the wee hrs.) to check in their id and to write out a form. As the old adage goes: "What's good for the gander is good for the geese!" :-)

[+ Axiom2001]

The adage reads: "What's good for the gander is good for the goose."

I hurriedly typed, thus the minor error I wanted to rectify before someone else called it to my attention!

 

...wish I were in Brasil right now. ...miss the warmmmmmmmmmmmmth that seems to be omnipresent in many facets of life there!

[Guest milktoast]

This is not a gay or straight thing. It's a function of the fact that the travel industry across the globe is looking to make bucks from family travellers. I regret that a few bad apples have ruined it for everyone. The problem stems from sexual tourists who try to bring street thugs or beach whores up to their room to save a few sheckels. When the unintended but inevitable consequences occur, we are all affected adversely. In Sao Paulo, I was asked to pay 50 Real for the "guest" to come upstairs, and so it would not appear on the bill. Personally, I don't find the id approach any better. Who wants to do that in front of all the other guests. Crucify me if you want, but the answer is for travellers to be more discreet in who they invite in as guest, and if that means paying a few more sheckels, then do it. If not, we may all have to rent beach front property instead.

[trilingual]

> The problem stems from

>sexual tourists who try to bring street thugs or beach whores

>up to their room to save a few sheckels. When the unintended

>but inevitable consequences occur, we are all affected

>adversely. In Sao Paulo, I was asked to pay 50 Real for the

>"guest" to come upstairs, and so it would not appear on the

>bill. Personally, I don't find the id approach any better.

>Who wants to do that in front of all the other guests.

>Crucify me if you want, but the answer is for travellers to be

>more discreet in who they invite in as guest, and if that

>means paying a few more sheckels, then do it. If not, we may

>all have to rent beach front property instead.

 

Please. Everyone else is a sex tourist, but you aren't? Look in the mirror and take a long, hard look, hon!

 

The "bad apples" are among the sex workers, by and large. There aren't a lot of them, but enough to cause the occasional problem of a kind hotels don't want. THAT's why they ask for ID, if they don't otherwise try to discourage such "visitors" to guests' rooms. The ones who do want to discourage it charge extra.

 

Checking for ID is a policy that many Brazilian hotels have had for a long time. It's surprising that the Atlântico has been so relaxed, given that it mostly caters to a family/business clientele. However, things seem to be drifting back to normal there, now that the number of gringos bringing in escorts seems to have dropped off. When there were 35 or so, as there was during the party, it was a bit overwhelming. Now it's back down to between 5 and 10, and that's manageable.

 

Also, according to Eduardo, it's his understanding that the problem at the Altântico stemmed from a straight tourist and a possibly underage female hooker. This may have overlapped with the problem of a possible theft by a male escort. Whatever, things seem to be going back to normal.

[duke37]

Let me be the first to say....

 

 

HI AXE!!!!:7 }(

 

Jeff

[+ Axiom2001]

Tri, I'm truly glad that you took the time to respond to Milktoast's statements. When I read them I became annoyed and pondered as to how am I going to respond to this. Well, I am happy that I chose not to write and let another (who did it with such aplomb) do it!

 

It is good to hear that things are getting back to normal at our favorite hotel. Take care and enjoy TDay. When I read the other threads about the small gathering on next Thursday, I began to yearn again to be back in "paradise" amongst the cariocas!

[jackhammer91406]

Yup, the Sexual Tourist reference was a dead give away huh.

 

Interesting choice of handle though.

x(

[JamesK840]

Axe, the return...

 

The disabled profile is a good hint too, but looking up other posts, there are dead giveaways (in addition to the 'Sexual Tourist' post) over in the flame war/Israel forum:

http://babydb.male4malescorts.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=4555&mesg_id=&page=&mode=full#4695

 

Good catch Duke!

[straightshooter]

(2nd try)

Would not recommend Hotel Toledo because of locked door policy at nite. know of several HASSLES - fellow Brazilian friends + their Gringo sponsors subject to chato, grumpy porteiro. sometimes we get in other times no, but who needs the hassle when we're all out late

[Guest mlee789]

Is this still the case at this hotel? No guests? I leave in a few days and would like to know before I depart. THANKS!

[Guest Jake]

No - Atlantico is (still) wide open to visitors.

Guess they realized that business travelers alone aren't going to pay the mortgage!

[Guest davenida]

I was in Rio for the first week of July. While I was there, there was an article in O Globo saying that a group of investors from the U. S. who had (I believe it was) 16 million dollars together to open a new gay hotel. No location. No timeframe. This would solve a lot of problems re security and embarassment.....if it is true. There have been rumors of a gay hotel opening for as long as I can remember.

[Driver]

Gulliver? those brown bags under the dining table at the party were they full of dollar bills?