A Modest Proposal

[Guest Jaunty]

The roof top party on 27 October seems to be growing like a size queens fantasy. There is something we could do that is relatively easy and simple, make the party seem more special for the guests, and greatly improve communications. Give up?

 

A printed invitation in Portuguese! If someone fluent would write it up so we could download or print a few copies before we left home, we could arrive prepared.

 

The recipients would feel honored by the invitation and know exactly what is expected.

 

The hosts would know they had communicated clearly (whatever our language skills) and when we run out of invitations, we have reached our limit.

 

I am not suggesting someone check invitations at the door.

 

Many times it is little extra touches that make a party outstanding. A Axiom's idea to bring colorful bags in green and yellow for the party favors is a brilliant stroke. It simplifies gift wrapping and adds a festive touch at the same time. The printed invitation would be another nice touch. Yes?

 

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[Guest Tomcal_]

Jaunty, I think that is a great idea! Maybe our Founder/Portuguese Linguist, Tri could give us the Portuguese translation. I would be happy to get them printed! Maybe something like:

 

You are invited!!

Party, Monday, 10/27

Atlantico Hotel Rooftop/Pool 7:00 PM

Food/Drink and prizes!

An opportunity to meet many Americans( and few Brits!)

 

This way we are not promising they are going to make money but they all will realize the opportunity is there on what is an "off" night at the suanas.

 

I can tell everyone that this party is already well known to the boys, I have gotten phone calls this past week from 4 of the boys down there asking details!!(they must have a special on Intern'l calling rates for cell phones in Brazil!)

[sf traveler]

I also think this is a great idea. It will simplify things a lot for those without much Portuguese. My only question for those more experienced is, is this going to increase the liklihood of being inundated by "friends of friends?" Brazilians are more eager than teenage American girls to bring along 2 or 3 friends to every gathering and my paranoid side is getting concerned that things could get out of hand, so to speak. LOL What do you guys think? SF Traveler

[+ Axiom2001]

I applaud the suggestion and would only hope that the invitation is at this site before 07 October, the day that I depart for Sao Paulo. Since I am not conversant in Portuguese at all--it would be a great help.

 

In addition to SF Traveler's concern, might I suggest that it be written in the invitation (couched tactfully) that the receiver of invitation is the only invited guest! I know this is a variance from the norm, but it might aid in not receiving additional parties or uninvited guests. Just a suggestion; this is all NEW to me yet quite exciting!

[Guest Jake]

Hey Guys -

 

I´m sitting down here having invited several boys to the party and starting to wonder how many is too many? While I´m sure I can provide some outstanding (and some new) talent as many of us can, I am seeing the very real possibility of it getting totally out of hand. I´ve stopped inviting until there is some communal discussion and definition of what we think is appropriate. An individual limit? A poll on who is attending for certain and wants to bring how many with an enforced RSVP and see what the scope is? Or, new thought, move it from the Atlantico to 117 (closed, of course, on Monday)and let it roll down and dirty maybe with, shall we say, some exotic entertainment thrown in with all the other exotic entertainment going on?

 

If this last idea means anything, I can initiate some inquiries.

 

Let´s keep all these bright and deliciously dirty minds working here, guys.

 

Jaun - Think the invitation is a great idea and look forward to seeing you.

 

Jake

[sf traveler]

First let me say to Jake--"I know your taste and by all means, invite away." I'd be perfectly happy to let Jake invite all the boys and just sit back and enjoy myself! I think that with many of the M4Mers arriving just prior to the party, it won't get out of hand on that level. I'm worried about two things: (1) boys inviting their friends and (2) M4Mers who've RSVPed not coming (as it were) at the last minute. If boys invite their friends, well at least somebody knows that guy. But if there are too many boys for the number of clients, that's more of a problem in thelong, and short, run. I'm starting to think we should reconfirm with the M4Mers about a week to 10 days prior to the event, at least with the ones we don't all know. As to the invitations, I still think that's a great idea but we should try to discourage passing them around--I think that telling the boy you give one to that this is for just you. And in fact they will understand that they're better off too with fewer boys and more clients! SF Traveler

[trilingual]

> You are invited!!

> Party, Monday, 10/27

> Atlantico Hotel Rooftop/Pool 7:00 PM

> Food/Drink and prizes!

>An opportunity to meet many Americans( and few Brits!)

>

 

As long as each M4Mer (and traveling companion) doesn't invite more than TWO escorts to the party, I think we'll be OK. Word is clearly getting around, and I'd strongly suggest reminding the guys that even if there isn't room to invite everyone to the Atlântico, they're certainly welcome to show up and ply their wares at Point 202 on the 24th and 31st, and also to come hang out at Corujinha at the witching hour!

 

Anyway, here's my take on an invitation in Portuguese:

 

Você está convidado para a

Grande Festa M4M

Segunda-feira, dia 27 de outubro, às 19:00

Cobertura do Hotel Atlântico Copacabana

Churrasco! Bebidas! Prêmios!

E a oportunidade de conhecer um monte de

futuros clientes vindo do exterior!

 

Por causa dos limites de espaço na cobertura e as

exigências do hotel, este convite é somente para você.

Agradecido pela sua compreensão. Se tem amigos que

querem conhecer à turma, lembre para êles que podem aparecer

no Point 202 nos dias 24 e 31 de outubro, as 19:00, quando

os gringos vão se reunir para vaporizações, e no

Corujinha qualquer noite entre aquelas datas, começando

às 23:30.

 

If you cut and paste this into an invitation, the first part can be in larger print, the second (beginning with "por causa) in smaller. The second part says "Because of space limits and requirements of the hotel, this invitation is for you only. Thanks for your understanding. If you have friends who would like to meet the visitors, remind them that they can come to Point 202 on the 24th and 31st of October, at 7:00 p.m., when the visitors will be gathering for steam treatments, and at Corujinha any night between those dates, beginning at 11:30 p.m."

 

That will do the trick. PRINT TWO invitations, and only give out TWO! And we should be fine!

[lfarj]

I have never been to this hotel rooftop. However I think we have to play, as said by the members, with 2 alternatives:

 

1)Up to "so many people" the party will be at the hotel and it will cost SO much;

 

2) More than "so many people" the party will be "AT" and it will cost that much.

 

The invitation must be required but you know brazilians. We always hyhave friends , anyway I have a friend from DC coming for the party and I dont know if he´s a member of this forum. As a matter of fact the portuguese translation was perfect.

Felipe

[Guest Tomcal_]

I will print up 50+ of the invitations. maybe with the Brazilian flag on the front: http://store3.yimg.com/I/united-states-flag_1756_2603903 what do you think?

[gulliver]

Guys,

Monica (the general manager of the Atlantico)and I first arranged and talked about this party last April. Since the one we had then was within limits, there was no problem expanding it and using the rooftop. The outside caterer is prepared to do food for about 75 - that was our original number and although it was a little bigger than she was comfortable having on the roof - it kind of slid by.

 

SInce there is usually too much food for the number of guests, i did not feel there would be a problem if it got a bit larger as long as we were somewhat in bounds. Considering that often people arrive at staggered times and some hotel guests and boys are in their rooms it seemed like no big issue.

 

If there are 30 to 35 of us and we all have a guest and some have two - we will be within the limits as the hotel understands them. Some of us are all inviting the same boys. If this is going to be more than 100 people all arriving at the same time, this could be a problem for the hotel and it may be better to have it off site as has been suggested. As it stands we have food for 70 or so people which probably feeds about 90 in actuality. I have sent off an email to Monica to confirm things last night as we have been out of touch since the end of August. Since Floridarobb and I are in the rooftop suite, the living room and the outside area are available to house overflow as long as we all pitch in and clean up afterwards.

 

From my recollection there really is no problem with the area accomodating a large number. 20 or so in the suite and outside there must be 9 tables or so that seat 5 outside. Include the area around the main pool there is plenty of space. so the issue is not the number of people but how we handle it and not overwhelming the hotel at one moment. It has kind of gotten a bit weird in the lobby recently with stray boys hanging around on the sofas who are not waiting for one of us - but just hanging out. I personally think we should be just a little bit more cool. After all, this started as just a casual, barely planned, kind of fun event and we dont want to turn it into something resembling the Afflek-J Lo wedding which requires a professional planner. All i am doing is ordering the food and opening the suite so people can use it. What do you all think - are we too many for the hotel or can we manage without anyone having to be a manager? Ill let you know when I get a response from Monica.

[sf traveler]

I guess I don't believe it's really going to be much of a problem. First, I'm still not sure that every M4Mer who replied is really going to show up. I still think we should try to do confirming emails a couple of weeks prior to the party, at least for people the regulars don't personally know. Also, like Tri (I think) I believe that many of us are going to be inviting the same boys. Given who I know has already been invited, I'm not inviting anyone extra, for instance. I would just suggest to the newbies that you use extra discretion and not invite every cute guy you meet--that will overload the roof! Last time, I was a little afraid not enough boys would come but that wasn't a problem at all--although, on the other hand, the boys themselves clearly understand that it's in their best interests to limit the number of boys since that way there'll be more clients for each of them. And with Tomcal promising to set me up with "uma grande suruba" I should be responsible for keeping 8 to 10 boys busy at any one time! Seriously though, we do have to keep an eye on the numbers, and it wouldn't be amiss to have a back-up plan if things do seem to be getting out of hand, but, for the reasons I explained above, I'm not ready to just assume that we're really going to be overwhelmed. SF Traveler

[sf traveler]

Oh as to the Brazilian flag, I'm not sure about that. I don't want to do anything that even has the possibility of being perceived as disrespectful. Maybe something with the colors? or with Brazilian and US flags, or colors? SF Traveler

[Guest Tomcal_]

One suggestion that might work to control who/how many. How about three or four of us to have already done and planned one of these, be the "invitation committee"? We would be the only ones doing the inviting. We already know a majority of the boys, which ones are fun, dependable, etc. and that way we have more control since we are the ones that are ultimately responsible. Tri,Gulliver, Florida Robb, SfTraveller and myself have all done this party together before and between us know enough boys to invite that should cover everyone's "type". What do you think?

[jackhammer91406]

Invitation by proxy

 

Hey Guys,

I am fine with letting you guys do the inviting. I can't imagine even trying to decide who to invite, even tho I arrive on the 23rd and plan to be at the party on the 24th. As long as I can reserve 1 invite in case I get really lucky and find a guy who is willing to have sex with me and I want to invite him....heheh.

 

 

 

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[Driver]

RE: Invitation by proxy

 

A big raspberry to that suggestion.

 

If you want to control numbers then keep everybody to their stated numbers. Alternatively limit each of us to maximium of one guest with the party organisers allowed 3 or so.

 

Personally I look forward to inviting my guest (or even letting the odd hint slip in the saunas that I have yet to use my invite). I may even use it on a nonsexual guest (such as my barman friend).

[+ Axiom2001]

If all goes as planned-- I will be at the soiree, short of any unexpected events prior to 27 October. In terms of party guests-- I've listed 2, but that might turn out to be 1 - 0. With the encouragement of some of my M4Mers-- I'll bring at least 25 small bags which can hold t-shirts and caps and other smallish items, no balls as originally stated:I'm purchasing the smaller of the two bags.

 

I support the planners and organizers and hope to meet all by 27/10/03. Obrigado! Axiom/Eduardo

[+ Axiom2001]

Tom, your idea is truly superb; I hope the others who plan to attend and who had intended to invite some of their sauna (boi) friends will concur. What you suggest would make it manageable, simple, and easy!

Do invite Mozart and the other "classical" fellow along with some of the hotties who were present at Soiree 1, Mr. Muscles, the chap with the puka shells... I'll leave this part in the hands of the "veterans"! :)

[trilingual]

>As a matter of fact the portuguese translation was perfect.

 

Thank you! Ernani and Carlo usually correct my mistakes. I'm glad to see I didn't screw up this time!

[trilingual]

I think it's too late to limit invitations to the organizers. Word is out! But if we each stick to two invitations we should be OK. If it turns out someone you invite already has been invited by someone else, that doesn't mean you need to use all your invitations up just because you have extras! Please use good judgement, everyone.

 

There may be some overlap of invitations, as SF Traveler and Tomcal have pointed out. Let's just see how it goes. As we get a bit closer, Gulliver, we might want to re-check and possibly up the number of meals the caterer is planning from 75 to perhaps 90. I wouldn't tell the hotel we expect more than that, to avoid freaking them out. However, if they're willing to close the roof that night for our party, there should be enough room with the main entrance area, the pool area, and the suite (with its own private pool area).

 

On the invitations, please don't limit things to the Brazilian and U.S. flags. Others will be participating. Maybe it could be the rainbow flag? That's now universal!

[Guest Jaunty]

Good Thing it was a modest proposal . :+

[Guest Jake]

>One suggestion that might work to control who/how many. How

>about three or four of us to have already done and planned one

>of these, be the "invitation committee"? We would be the only

>ones doing the inviting. We already know a majority of the

>boys, which ones are fun, dependable, etc. and that way we

>have more control since we are the ones that are ultimately

>responsible. Tri,Gulliver, Florida Robb, SfTraveller and

>myself have all done this party together before and between us

>know enough boys to invite that should cover everyone's

>"type". What do you think?

 

Oops - Too late. I did stop inviting, though, to see how this was going to shake out.

 

One other suggestion. I think we should all have name tags with our dual identities on them to make it easier to put faces with all our outrageous reports.

[Driver]

The nametag suggestion has been made before and those of us with more reasonable signons wont find that a problem . . .

 

 

24 days to go

[Driver]

Given that there will be 25 small bags for small presents and something like 50-60 boys there, are we wrapping presents or what?

[trilingual]

Only if you want to wrap presents!

[Driver]

What I mean is how does the distribution work - will someone be dressed as santa claus? I kinda hoped there would be 50 bags that we evenly distributed the goods into.