FLORIPA from italian eyes

[xchris]

Well, boys, I´ve been to Floripa and visit that sauna we were talking about.

Cross the street juswt in front of the big building of the Rodoviaria, the mani bus station, the street of the sauna is just on the left of the Intercity hotel you see from the rodiviaria. It is two minutes walk from the rodoviaria, and the door after a Methodist Church.

Must say that Flaripa was not as good as I imagine, even if there was some interesting spots to discover.

I ve been to the sauna in front of the Rodoviaria but it was emply the two times I went, as they seem to work geed only on fridays. All floripa seem to be alive just on fridays, they say.

That a thing to mantein in mind for the next visit, or visitors.

Well, I was there monday morning which was a sort of festive day, but in the sauna just two boys and two clientes, plus me and Carlos.

The place is really nice indee, with a jacuzzi and clean new rooms.

We ended to have nice time with a piloto, as the garotos call them there. Felipe was a little on the shy side, but nice.

The price of the sauna is light, and Felipe 50 Rs.

Will go on later.

 

Ciao

XCHRIS

[trilingual]

It's probably not surprising that Floripa was a bit slow on a holiday in the low season. Compared to the other Brazilian metropolises, Floripa is small (perhaps 750,000 in the sprawling metro area) and it's highly seasonal, as far as it's tourist industry goes. Floripa is far enough south that it gets cool in the winter, so it's very much a summer resort and most packed in January and February, when it can receive more than a million visitors! The rest of the time life goes back to normal. Because this was a VERY long holiday weekend in Brazil (several national/local holidays bumped into Easter this year) many of the locals probably took off, themselves, so Floripa might have been even slower than usual! Of course, Monday isn't a busy day just about anywhere!

 

In the off-season Floripa goes about its business of being a state capital and university town. There isn't much industry (in Santa Catarina state that's mostly found in places like Joinville and Blumenau) but there's a fair amount of telecommunications research centered there. In other words, it's a white-collar, middle-class kind of town, and it's popular with Brazilian retirees, too.

[xchris]

Chapter two.

Sorry for the typing mistakes of my previous post, but the internet shop was closing and they were shutting down a light every five seconds to let me know it!

 

The name of the sauna in Floripa is Hangar, and I confirm it is very nice and clean. I think it probabily could be a good place to visait on high season. The boys arond Frolipa are very nice, lots of surfers, and a mix of many races. Blonds, darks and white types.

 

I visited a nice beach, Medo, on the northeast side, very crouderd and full of young people. Definitely the place to visit on the beach side, more then the Ingeles beach we were. The last bar on the beach was full of surfers and youngs flexing their muscles and showing their bodies...

 

We have been also to Blumenau, a german city north of Floripa, nice town with a real german-austrian look, aND GOOD BEER ON DRAFT.

 

wE HAVE BEEN TO bRUNO sAUNA THERE, INTO A COTTAGE IN THE CENTRE OF THE TOWN, BUT THEY HAD NOT GAROTOS AND JUST FIVE CLIENTS. tHE PRICE WAS LIGHT, 15 REAIS.

 

See you later. This shop is closing as well...

 

Ciao

Chris

[sf traveler]

Since I´ve just finished a few days in Sao Paulo with my favorite Brazilian of all time (quite a bit of competition for that title) and he´s from Floripa, I can just add that he confirmed everything Tri and the others have said. During high season, the sauna may have 10 to 15 boys, but out of season no more than 5. The other thing to keep in mind is that the Carneval in Floripa is very gay. A lot of people from SP and all of southern Brazil go there. My friend said that they block of whole streets and have the drag shows, go-go boys etc in the street. \here the local gays think of it as a preferable alternative to the over-priced and commericialized Carneval in Rio. SF Traveler

[trilingual]

I also spent Carnival in Florianopolis a number of years ago, and it was definitely fun and gay. Lots of street carnival in addition to the parades, and it's universally considered to be the best Carnival south of Rio.

 

A couple of spelling corrections to xchris's posting: The beach he refers to is Praia Mole, on the Atlantic side of the island Floripa is located on. It's more or less directly east across the island from the city. For the most part, this is a popular beach with locals, as there aren't lots of hotels like at Canasvieiras and Praia dos Ingleses at the north end of the island (which are Buenos-Aires-by-the-Sea in summertime when exchange rates allow Argentines to flock there). Out of season there isn't much going on at the northern beaches.

 

Next to Praia Mole (to the left as you look towards the ocean) are some rocks just past the bar at the end of the beach. A fairly easy walk over the rocks leads to Praia Galheta, which reminds me very much of Zuma Beach in Southern California, down to the nudism! It's undeveloped, so bring your own food and water if you plan to spend the day there, but it's perfectly beautiful and worth the effort!

[xchris]

I will be in Posto Seguro tomorrow and try to enjoy the quet surrounding, and also look for hot places if posible.

Then I will give my contribute to the forum about the place, so to be able to give informations, after taking a lot.

 

Ciao a tutti

CHRIS

[xchris]

Porto Seguro from italian eyes

 

Porto Seguro is nice, but very touristic.

 

I thought it was a little bit more naturalistic then other places, but for that you must go to the southers praias Rio da Barra, which is very lonely even if you can have a bar and restaurant on the beach, and a nice pousada, and a near Club Med, or the next praia Trancoso, very fashion place, but you need a buggy to go these places, as the road is very rough.

 

Sorry, as for gay places my friend Carlos and I didn't find any, even if we spotted some nice guys who look after to us, anda some clearly gay types walkin down Passarela do Alcool. (I must say that Carlos help me to correct my words, which now are more precise!)

 

Carlos says that bahianos are very disponible, but he also says that we didn't have many success because we use to walk together, and we would have been alone instead!

 

Anyway, no sauna on sight.

 

We sunbathed and planned our visit to Sampa tomorrow.

 

Ciao to everybody.

Chris

[xchris]

San Paulo from italian eyes

 

We went to San Paulo for documents need and this gave me the occasion to view Sanpa for my first time.

Musta say that it is a classical big town of international standars. Some places remindes me to Milano financial disctict, the peploe dressing ties and the common habit to walk in a hurry with cells on ears.

The first night we took place to the Formula 1 Hotel in Paradise district, where we had a very clean family room for as low as 59 R$ with three beds. We was very late so we headed to a short visit to some nice gay bars: ueen and then on Rua Arusha we meet a nice guy for our forst paulista night.

 

Next soon

 

Ciao

CHRIS

[xchris]

End of my trip

 

I stayed in Sao Paulo for the rest of my trip, and visited Lagoa and Fragata Sauna.

Lagoa is incredible: large, with a lot of places to stay, pool, jacuzzi even if seem to be well used, a cinema hall, double porn, etc. You can walk around inside the place and risk to lose yourself.

 

I was waiting for my friend Carlos and a friend of him living in Sanpa, and then I was kidnapped by a very intriguing boy from Brasilia, named Kadu, mix of Carlos and Eduardo, with long hair and solid boby, little goatee and a sort of smirk over, couple of tattoes on his shoulders. he groped me and pratically threw me into a cabin, where he provided me with a technically and professionally high standars demonstration of athletic and inventive sex.

I must give him 50 + 20R$ even if he was sorry not to be payed 100.

 

I found at lagoa many boys I met in Rio Saunas the week before, and two I met last year in Estacao, Jorge and his brother. They seem to go to Sanpa sometimes looking for fortune.

 

Fragata was some smoller but nice, too, and well packed with boys, again some from Rio and some I met in Lagoa the day bafore. It looks like the rules had changed: now the boys are not yet compelled to work a definite lenght of time once entering a sauna, but are free to come and go. My friend Carlos who worked sometimes in saunas pays as boy entrance and exit with me, staying there on hour or two. He says now it is possible at almost any place.

 

In Arusha we met Wagner, a nice boy af 21 y/o, well built but not huge, who said he go there after sauna when he doesn't worked enough or at all. He was caring, white skinned, silky black haired, and liked to bottom.

 

Sampa seem to concentrate the best of the boys from every other city: Floripa, Rio, Brasilia, maybe Curitiba and so on.

 

When back to Rio, last saturday, I had my last night party at 202 with a model boy named Felipe (or Enrique, as names seem to change with the moon), then a threesome with Carlos and a tall light colored hunk with a solid 23cm(!) with wich we only could play easy, while having deeper sex betheen Carlos and me; then we decided to end the night with a foursome with a blondish thin Marcelo surfer-type and a blondish Andrea super pumped and tattoed. But must admit that this was too much for me and we ended just kidding aroaund, but was fine anyway.

Then we all ended to the famous pizzaria Capriccio in Ipanema, and this was my adieu to Rio and Brasil this time.

 

My Air France plane dispatched me to Venice last sunday.

 

I've been very pleased to meet you, Tri, and have our spaghetti encounter in your nice apt. Yes, someetimes you can have double or triple choice of pasta at italian restaurant if they allow you.

 

Would have hoped to repeat maybe on enlarged company, but unfortunately my plans was too concitated and I was not able to do all I planned.

 

While stayin at Carlos' apt. in Catete I enjoyed the carioca style of living, the crouds on the streets, the nice habits, the bahian sounds on the streets at night, the hunting of the place to park the car at night, and was engulfed with the inevitable contagious of timing and being late at avery date I intended to go. This was funny anyway.

In our apt. we gave ospitatilty to a friend of carlos, a former TV entertainer who actally is ill for a cancer, and we headed every morning to the hospital with him and back home.

This was a unusual and interesting experience notwithstanding.

 

I visited Santa Teresa barrio as well, as Ernani advised me once on this forum. Must say it was wonderful to me, even if not much valorized by locals, because people fears about the favelas around. But the place itself is very "baudlerian", with artist resturants and cleaner air than Copa or Catete, roads in block of porfido rock and colonial houses.

 

Everything was a new and deeper occasion to penetrate the complex life of Brasil, and I begin to appreciate it better beyond my first tourist enthusiasm of last november.

 

Next time will balance my plans and pick up every experience with more knowledge and a new intimate satisfaction. You was true, people here is loving and caring much more than other places.

 

Thanks again to everyone of you, that invited me to know this beautiful place...

 

CIAO e Grazie infinite !

 

CHRIS

[+ Axiom2001]

RE: End of my trip

 

xChris-- thanks for sharing your experiences with us with a high air of eagerness. You seem to be a very caring person which I sensed when I first read your beginning responses here; I also felt this way when you emailed me about my possible visit to Italy to Florence and Tuscany in November.

 

I do hope that this M4Mer and you will one day meet in person. Again, thanks! Ciao! Axiom2001/Edward

[trilingual]

RE: End of my trip

 

Hi, Chris --

 

Thanks for the great reports (AND the spaghetti lunch). As you can see, the more you get into Brazil, the more fascinating it is. And you definitely got into Brazil, visiting different cities and staying in non-touristy parts of Rio. Exploring all the facets of Brazil is a never-ending occupation! And in spite of all the problems, of crime, poverty, corruption, etc., the people mostly are among the kindest, most generous and most considerate that I've ever met anywhere. How can someone not love that?

 

Glad to see you arrived home safely. When's your next trip back to Brazil?

[xchris]

RE: End of my trip

 

Thanks Axiom for apreciating my reports, hope to be able to help you in your next trip to Italy. In the meanwhile I'll follow the posts here to try to stay in contact with BRASIL through your experiences, eyes and stories.

 

Tri, unfortunately I'll be back to Rio only next October. I cannot have more holidays earlier. So I think I'll not be able to cook for you again during your actual stay, as you go back to Usa in june, right? When do you intend to come back to Brasil? Anyway, we will talk again. About economic projects, as well.

 

Question: the BReal is earning again vs Us dollar, even if Euro could be changed in a better value by now. Do you feel the brasilian economy is becoming to grow better than previous time and is going to limit our convenince?

 

Ciao

 

XCHRIS