Review response by Costas - NYC

[JoshAB]

Good day all,

 

I found this response that Costas - NYC wrote this week to be very interesting. Whether or not the "He Said/He said" between the review and response are true isn't what I find interesting... it's that this review site could REALLY kill an escort's business.

 

It took me a long while to find this site - and I love it. I'm just shocked that, assuming Costas is telling the truth, it can kill business, especially with some of the horrible reviews that continually are written about other escorts that still seem to be thriving.

 

That's all I have to say about that.

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/newest.php?who=costas_nyc&page=0

 

Josh.

[Lewis H]

I wonder if it just coincides with the recession causing a drop-off as well...?

[Guest Ca Robert]

It's interesting, though, that Costas immediatly commenented on how unattractive the reviewer was. I instantly lose respect for the escort at that point. If he's going to be a rentboy, he needs to go beyond that unless the client hasn't bathed in a few weeks, or if there is discharge at the penis, or open sores. It's justificiation for bad business practices and lousy customer service.

 

If it was as bad as Costas claimed, then he should have returned the money, or immediately declined the appointment. However, to attack the reviewer is wrong.

 

It ruined his business? Well, it prevented others from being ripped off. Now, middle-aged men whose looks have faded won't risk a bad appt. Years ago, Josh Weston told me that it was "mind over matter" in terms of clients. He developed the ability to overcome the limiations of clients and force himself to perform. After all, that's why we hire escorts.

[meteor9876]

Hi everybody,

 

1. English is not my motherlanguage, so please excuse my mistakes, I hope the readers can understand me.

 

2. I find this response also very interesting. It is probably true that review can have a big influence. But I think it can go in both directions, you can get clients and you can loose clients. So maybe it is fair: You accept clients that come from a good review, so you have to accept that you can loose clients. But maybe I am wrong and the impact from a bad review is much bigger than the influence of a good review. Maybe other escorts can tell about their experience.

 

3. The response created mixed feelings, but for sure it was not very smart to leave this response. Even when I understand Costas point, I wouldn´t hire him. Maybe he would find me unattractive too, maybe he would come to my home back, if I write a negative review, ...

 

4. I am really not sure, how I think about his main point. Does an escort expect me to tell upfront if I am old, unattractive, overweight or whatever ? There are diseases that make people smell, but it would be very unprofessionell if a doctor wouldn´t help me because I smell. There are a lot of jobs where people have to do things that they don´t like, because it is part of their job. But does that mean an escort has to accept every client, that doesn´t sound right to me neither.

 

Therefore I would be interested in the view of other escorts. How do they deal with this "problem", do they accept every client, because they think it is part of their job, or do they tell immediately that they don´t accept you, when they see you the first time.

 

And what do you do, if you are booked for a weekend in another city thats far away and when you arrive you find the client ugly. Who has to pay the travelling costs in this case ?

[Gar1eth]

>Hi everybody,

>

>1. English is not my motherlanguage, so please excuse my

>mistakes, I hope the readers can understand me.

>

>2. I find this response also very interesting. It is probably

>true that review can have a big influence. But I think it can

>go in both directions, you can get clients and you can loose

>clients. So maybe it is fair: You accept clients that come

>from a good review, so you have to accept that you can loose

>clients. But maybe I am wrong and the impact from a bad review

>is much bigger than the influence of a good review. Maybe

>other escorts can tell about their experience.

>

>3. The response created mixed feelings, but for sure it was

>not very smart to leave this response. Even when I understand

>Costas point, I wouldn´t hire him. Maybe he would find me

>unattractive too, maybe he would come to my home back, if I

>write a negative review, ...

>

>4. I am really not sure, how I think about his main point.

>Does an escort expect me to tell upfront if I am old,

>unattractive, overweight or whatever ? There are diseases that

>make people smell, but it would be very unprofessionell if a

>doctor wouldn´t help me because I smell. There are a lot of

>jobs where people have to do things that they don´t like,

>because it is part of their job. But does that mean an escort

>has to accept every client, that doesn´t sound right to me

>neither.

>

>Therefore I would be interested in the view of other escorts.

>How do they deal with this "problem", do they accept

>every client, because they think it is part of their job, or

>do they tell immediately that they don´t accept you, when they

>see you the first time.

>

>And what do you do, if you are booked for a weekend in another

>city thats far away and when you arrive you find the client

>ugly. Who has to pay the travelling costs in this case ?

 

 

I always tell escorts that I am overweight and not particularly attractive beforehand--I figure everyone has their tolerance limits--and if I am not going to be their cup of tea better I find out before the meeting. Smell is something else again--hopefully I don't smell bad--and the way smell affects you is almost a visceral response hard-wired into the brain. Unfortunately for the smelly client--I would think if it can't be masked in some way--then maybe they shouldn't hire--or at the very least realize that the majority of escorts may not be able to deal with it.

 

Gman

[dcguy20]

FYI - He has changed his name to Barak:

 

http://www.rentboy.com/listing.aspx?lid=153976&scid=19847661&sp=18&pos=355

[JT Brooklyn]

I'm guessing that 99% of Working Guys are not going to go out on a CALL at 4 a.m. for the simple reason they don't know Who or What will be on the other side of the door? Most will not answer their Cell after a certain time. We ALL need our Beauty Sleep! HaHa

 

Anyway...Costas takes a Damn Fine Photo, so I'm thinking he like others is just suffering from the Economy! Most agree their Biz is only 10% from Daddys Reviews! The rest from Rentboy etc! ;-)

[Guest GBoy]

I think he change his name to see if it will change the way his busines is going. I think if your business is not going as well, you need to reflect and see what the problem is, I can see he might have his side of story to tell, but as an escort, your client's look shouldn't be such a big factor but I understand we are all human, so it does. But open up and talk about it just make yourself looks tacky. Keep your thought to yourself and just said a few word, if the client said things that weren't true, you can said your side of story without attack the client's look.

 

And if your business is not as good, I am sure economy has something to do with it also. So drop your rate, treat your client as good as your can so they will come back to you for repeat business. Just like a real business, you need to adjust to fit the new climate change.

 

Too bad, cause he is very good looking, and I would totally jump in if he got some good reviews.

[dcguy20]

If he found the client was not to his particular liking, he should right then and there excused himself gracefully and not accepted a dime. Instead he went through with it half-assed so to speak and was insulting to boot.

[meteor9876]

I see that this is probably a good way to avoid conflicts and I am sure that escorts appreciate to get this information before.

 

But I am wondering:

-is this concept a result of bad experiences you made before ? AND

-what experience do you make with giving this information before ?

 

And I am wondering, how important the stats of a client are for an escort. I was never asked about my weight, age or how attractive I am. And the more I think about the subject I feel that it is the task of the escort to ask, if it is important to him. I don´t know what his taste is and where his limits are.

[meteor9876]

My last message was more a question to gar1eths message, I think I posted it wrong, sorry

[Luv2play]

I lost any sympathy for Costas when he revealed that he was unable to accomodate a 10 to 11 inch dick that was very thick, I believe. Oh, to be put in such a position! :9

[BgMstr4u]

I am trying hard to have some sympathy for Costas, and I've managed some. A really late night call. An unattractive client. A cold apartment. A less than ideal situation, perhaps not made better by possible lack of linguistic skills, if his writing is a fair indication.

 

But.

 

IMHO, Costas should have a better grip on what he can and cannot do well, draw the line, and not cross it. If any of the above make it difficult for him to please his client, then he should politely but clearly decline. That is his obligation. Obviously the client, however undesirable he may have been, was motivated to have a good time or he would not have laid out the cold hard cash for the experience.

 

Frankly, I would never call an escort who complains about the appearance of his clients. The review would not have deterred me, but the response certainly does. Why do you think we hire, anyway? If we were the magnets of desire we fancy ourselves we wouldn't need to do it. But we aren't, and we do. That's the nature of the business. Costas talks a very commercial line. So he should get commercial, realize who his market is and get with the program. Manage to like the guys who have hired you, at least while you're with them. Figure out what they want and help them get it. Make them glad, really glad, they called you, so they might do it again.

 

And lastly, about the too too big dick? Really, Helen, as my mother would say to a friend of hers when she was exasperated. As the old saying about how to get to Carnegie Hall goes, practice, practice, practice.

[JT Brooklyn]

Well I do feel sorry for those "Working Guys" who do feel they have to pay the bills by having to go to work at 4 a.m.!

 

You go out at that time in NYC.. ya never know "what or who" is still Up and Horney? Good Luck to Costas IF this is his usual M/O.. ;-)

 

I'm surprised he's survived and still looks good with these kind of hours for his alleged 10 years in "The Biz".;-)

[Gar1eth]

My last message was more a question to gar1eths message, I think I posted it wrong, sorry

 

That's ok--I don't mind how you posted--I'll answer anyway. In the past there have been a few escorts who hav said they don't work well with larger guys. Also my preference is for overnights and weekends, so my thoughts have always been--what you might just be able to get through on an hour or 2 basis--might be totally different than if you are spending an extended amount of time with them. In general most of the escorts have said I am not as bad looking as my description comes off--and I do believe them to a certain extent--as I play up the bad more than the good. On the other hand if I look slightly better than my description--well then the escort can feel more optimistic. Unfortunately the fact of me looking 7 to 8 months pregnant is all totally real. Boy do I need to work out more.

 

Gman

[Epigonos]

I initiated another thread in this forum entitled "sleepyboy" where I asked about a London based escort site. I have emailed a couple of the escorts listed on that site. In the first contact email I have with ALL escorts I ask if the age of a client is a problem for them. I am 68 and don't like suprises. I have thus far received two responses both were of the automatic response type, however, one of the guys added a postscript stating that he has no problems with older guys. I will in my next email describe what I'm into sexually and ask if any of those are a problem. If the response is no, then it will be time to set up the appointment.

I sincerely believe the more BOTH the escort and the client know about each other the better the get together. As stated above I don't like suprises therefore I extend the same courtsey to the escorts I hire.