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I was in a hurry this morning when i posted this thread

so here is whats happening

copied from my web page

 

This DVD is not for sale it is being given away as a thank you for your donation.

David-SF will be embarking on his

2nd journey of the 2009 AIDSlifecycle ride of a lifetime,

a 545 mile 7 day bike ride from San Francisco to LA.

Your $25 donation will be used to pay for the shipping, production & service costs of the dvd and 100% of the

leftover revenue will go directly to

AIDSlifecycle 2009

your generous contribution will grant you a full length super hot 35 minute amateur video.

Shot by our very good friend

Okiehomo.

 

This is not a professional movie, which makes it all the more fun to watch

Thank you for helping spread the word and please let your friends know it's a great cause and a we hope you like the movie

 

Much Love

David-SF & Andrew Justice

:-)

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Yep, an understatement -- can't wait to get my video. Especially like that the guys are smiling and laughing and having fun -- videos rarely show that side of it, but it makes it even hotter IMHO because the guys are real. Don't know Justice, but David looks super and hot, hope he keeps the slight beard which is sexy (and feels sooo good on the body).

 

Hey David, be warned: I'm taking notes for our next overnight!

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>>Whoa!!! :p

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>An understatement, if anything!!

 

 

 

 

Hell, yes, Axiom agrees and gives out a loud shout and thunderous applause! I definitely support your efforts and endeavors and just DID!

 

 

David, you are genuine and real, and I tremendously admire you for those attributes!

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So let me see if I understand this: I can stroke my bone while watching this hot vid of David ridin' Andrew Justice's bone and vice versa and I will be helping out a great cause? Not that thar is a damn fine win win sitiation! Talk about takin' one for the team Mr. 8" Tool! Way to give it up for a higher cause! Smokin, smokin, smokin!!

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> a full length super

>hot 35 minute amateur video.

>Shot by our very good friend

>Okiehomo.

>

 

 

Hey sexy! (And Yum!)

 

I wouldn't like to burst your bubble but it is a universally accepted truth that if there is one true professional in the field of flesh, ass and beauty, that is Okliehomo. So when you put yourself in his hands (Or on his tongue), you were automatically rising your endeavor to the professional status.

 

Nothing quite like abandoning oneself in the knowing hands of the learned. :p

 

Oklie... apparently you still have the talent when it comes to finding 'em.

 

Good luck on your fundraising, David, and have a smooth, fun ride!

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RE: Well here it goes. Hope you like it

 

Thanks everyone that was supportive in this endeavor

but unfortunately I need to take the time right now to share with you whats happening

this morning I received this email and gave me much to think about.

I have decided that this was a poorly thought out idea and in contrast to the goal of HIV prevention.

 

this is what was sent to me :

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First I think I have participated in more HIV/AIDS prevention activities than you have. I have not only donated a lot of money but also helped people with HIV and women with HIV infected children. I believe I am more educated and informed than you how HIV is transmitted and I have personally witnessed a couple of cases HIV transmitted via oral sex and cum eating. I guess you have an impeccable dental hygiene with no gaps or scars in your mouth. A person I have personally known got infected with HIV via oral sex died a month ago. I want to bring you to his grave and face him. Why do you promote risky sex and ask people to donate money for HIV/AIDS activities. Come on! While I am spending my dime and time to prevent and reach out to people with HIV, you not only promote a stupid risky sex "hot" but also ironically ask people to donate money for it. I feel really sorry for you. It is not going to bring any change unless you change

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although it was painful to read it makes sense and i believe I was a bit hasty in my effort to raise funds for aidslifecycle

all orders will be sent out today and no longer will this dvd be supporting the cause

the money raised so far will go but no more so please feel free to support this cause in others ways thanks David-sf

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RE: Well here it goes. Hope you like it

 

Your motives were well intended.

 

As for whoever sent you that note; they could have gotten their point across without all the self adulation and comeuppance. If that is how he tries to educate and change minds, I wonder if he may be doing as much harm with his snotty demeanor. While he may be feeling sorry for you, I feel he is one to be pitied.

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RE: Well here it goes. Hope you like it

 

While I respect David's decision, I question the medical accuracy of that email. I swear I read one time that there were no authenticated cases of HIV infection from oral sex... and that it was not considered "risky" ..... so, I don't think we were promoting anything contrary to the cause. I also had a Dr tell me once, that even giving head to a guy you knew was positive wasn't risky, because statistically speaking, the chances of infection were negligible.

 

I get that abstinence is the only really "safe" choice, but then again, if we all practiced that, we wouldn't be on this board, now, would we?

 

I am not apologizing for taking a safe and very hot encounter and trying to spin it for a greater good... David's good intentions to raise money for a good cause.

 

How many of you out there ask your partners... escorts or otherwise.... to wear a condom when receiving oral sex?? I'll bet damned few. Sounds more like uninformed straight boy homophobia than sound medical advice to me. Some sort of fucked up scare you straight tactic...

 

And the part about taking him to the grave to face him???? Shameless and hurtful. Any bets that that particular grave site is by a log cabin in Salt Lake City??

 

No harm was done and no harm was intended.

 

This is all up to David, but I, for one, know that his heart and his dick (and Andrew's, too) were in the right place.

 

Okie

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Juan, Juan, Juan,

 

You make me feel peckish for the sweet, sweet taste of the very famous (and did I mention sweet???) Tijuana back alley...

 

I do know how to pick 'em and you and the Blonde One are still among the best choices that I ever made.

 

Thanks for the kind words.

 

Okie

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RE: Well here it goes. Hope you like it

 

>While I respect David's decision, I question the medical

>accuracy of that email. I swear I read one time that there

>were no authenticated cases of HIV infection from oral sex...

>and that it was not considered "risky" .....

 

 

I just had a visit with my physician. He is a (gay) internist who in addition has done some training to be an AIDS specialist. We talked about oral sex briefly at my last visit.

 

I am not entirely sure whether what he said includes actually deliberately swallowing large amounts of "ejaculate" because I told him that I don't allow my partners to cum in my mouth--obviously we both knew that I have swallowed precum inadverdently from time to time--and maybe also small quantites of ejaculate when my partner has been "too fast" for me :o

 

So to cut to the chase--my doctor said that there is a theoretical risk from oral sex regarding catching HIV--but that it was thought to be very low--and there aren't any documented cases of anyone catching HIV from oral sex as far as he knew. Again that doesn't mean there haven't been any--but the risk is thought to be low. Also again--we were talking about me and my aversion to swallowing large amounts of "cum"--so I don't know for sure if the same "low risk" applies when swallowing "large" amounts that occur with actual orgasm.

 

Gman

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RE: Well here it goes. Hope you like it

 

I am sorry that this person knows people who are battling HIV and who have died. Yes, it is possible to become HIV positive through oral sex.

 

However, I disagree that you are promoting stupid risky sex -- you are promoting a gay-positive and sex-positive approach. In fact, the absolutely only way not to get HIV is to abstain from sex -- even condoms can be risky if they break, for example. Each of us needs to evaluate our level of and acceptance of risk.

 

Here are some quotes from different HIV Web sites -- even the experts disagree about the nuances of possibility and risk.

 

Fenway Community Health Center, Boston:

It may be possible to get infected with HIV through oral sex, especially if you have open sores in your mouth or bleeding gums, but it is very uncommon.

 

CDC

Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex. There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

 

About.com:

Theoretical Risk:With fellatio, there is a theoretical risk of transmission for the receptive partner because infected pre-ejaculate ("pre-cum") fluid or semen can get into the mouth. For the insertive partner there is a theoretical risk of infection because infected blood from a partner's bleeding gums or an open sore could come in contact with a scratch, cut, or sore on the penis.

Documented Risk: Although the risk is many times less than anal or vaginal sex, HIV has been transmitted to receptive partners through fellatio, even in cases when insertive partners didn't ejaculate.

 

SF City Clinic:

Oral sex and semen swallowing carry a very, very low risk of HIV infection. While some recent studies have suggested it may be zero, there are definitely case reports and individual experiences that support that HIV can be transmitted through oral sex, although it seems to be rare. It may be possible to take this concept further and reduce an already low risk activity to a lower risk one, the thinking would be that no semen would be safer than some, but truthfully there is no scientific proof in this area yet. There seems to be even a lower risk of transmission in people who receive oral sex and I am not aware of any case reports that document getting oral sex as a way to get HIV.

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