Dave/Darwin in DC

[rocky]

OK, I'm not the best looking person and am honest when

making arrangements for escorts. I saw Dave/Darwin

earlier this year after an extensive advertisement about

his abilities,how he was worth the price, etc. Had a nice

time but nothing special. Returning to DC this week and

thought we'd get together and he said oh I remember you,

I don't think we are matched well. Now here's his

link: http://daveinfo.blogspot.com Sounds to me as if

he's open to alot. I'm 54, hairy bear so if that was an

issue I think he should have said instead of giving me the

"we are not matched well" crap. Am I off line? I never

want to put anyone through something they don't want to

but this one really bugs me.

[KMEM]

What? He doesn't like cash?

 

I don't think this guy will be around long or go very far with such a poor attitude. To be fair, we are only hearing your side.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Guest PWIT]

Appearance may have nothing to do with it - unless there is more to the story you did not share. Suggest you look at it differently in that you are saved another possible 'nothing special' experience.

[Guest Michaelnc]

His response sounds OK to me. It allows for the interpretation that he is accepting some of the responsibility for what he sees as a lack of connection between the two of you. Maybe it's me, but I would much rather hear that than a more straightforward and detailed description of the ways in which a guy does not find me attractive. The way he put it sounds pretty professional, as these things go.

 

 

 

 

>OK, I'm not the best looking person and am honest when

>making arrangements for escorts. I saw Dave/Darwin

>earlier this year after an extensive advertisement about

>his abilities,how he was worth the price, etc. Had a nice

>time but nothing special. Returning to DC this week and

>thought we'd get together and he said oh I remember you,

>I don't think we are matched well. Now here's his

>link: http://daveinfo.blogspot.com Sounds to me as if

>he's open to alot. I'm 54, hairy bear so if that was an

>issue I think he should have said instead of giving me the

>"we are not matched well" crap. Am I off line? I

>never

>want to put anyone through something they don't want to

>but this one really bugs me.

[JT Brooklyn]

Rocky. I think in the long run you will probably come to the conclusion...

 

OK at least I didn't have to have one of those "This guy is really barely Interactive..What a waste of $$ and Time moments"..WE ALL have had!

 

I always give credit to the Upfront Working Guys..Some just are not as good at "Working It" as others are!

[Guest Wetnwildbear]

Speaking for myself and my twim brother Igor,

 

we prefer the honest No Thank You - Which is FREE.

 

As opposed an Encounter that is barely interactive,totally

 

unsatisfying and where we are made to feel that the escort is doing

 

us a favor just being there.

 

No Thanks - Works Much Better

 

With a No Thanks - We can seek other more congenial company who

 

appreciates a dorsal fin and a pronounced hump, and can still

 

throw a prolonged pronounced hump!

[Dave]

boy, this is the sort of stuff that can really drain an escort.

 

i love what i do. i fukkin’ LOVE my job. and in my case, i’m in it by choice - not by circumstances. having said that, i want you guys to know something about escorts. to be a truly good escort, one needs to be careful of becoming jaded, or burned out. either one of these states will result in the client having a poor experience.

 

i work hard to prevent feeling “burned out.” i don’t do anything i don’t want to do. i don’t set up appointments with people if i feel instinctively like something is off. and i don’t see people for a second session, if i’ve had a negative experience with them on the first.

 

this last scenario is what happened with Rocky The Poster, above (hmmm, i wonder if he is related to Joe The Plumber - that guy has certainly drained the American public!) and now i feel i must take the time to set the record straight, not only for his benefit, but for all you other readers... and of course, for mine, too.

 

i don’t follow the forums on here, but this thread was pointed out to me by a guy who set up two appointments with me over the coming weeks. it was awkward to hear about Rocky’s post in our phone call this morning, as we finalized our plans. i have never had a negative “review” (although i have a ton of positive ones on my site - http://daveinfo.blogspot.com/2006/06/read-what-theyre-saying-about-me.html) and was taken aback by the news. he, on the other hand, was having self-doubts - wondering if his body type might result in me refusing him. ugh, what a mess. i don’t want any of this to continue, or get worse, so here it is, a lovely sunday morning, and i’m typing away trying to explain myself and my thoughts. oh well, i teach classes in escorting, and i train individuals in escorting - so i might as well pass some tricks of the trade along this way, as well.

 

Rocky The Poster had given me his stats before we met, because (just like most of you) i like to have some sort of visual picture - as well as a feel for someone’s chemistry - before i meet them. i do not judge people by their body size. any GOOD escort knows how superficial that is. i have had mind-blowing sex with people who were 5-7 and 200 pounds (like Rocky The Poster’s stats), and i have had crappy sex with gorgeous guys who were 6-1 and 180 pounds. and no, i don’t have a particular preference or fetish for bears or chubby guys.

 

but one of the things you find when you get naked with a large number of people, is that you cannot predict the sexual intensity or skill of someone, just based on how they look. but hey, why am i writing that here? you guys wouldn’t be in this forum of The Deli if you weren’t discussing all the OTHER stuff that comes with these beautiful men, besides their looks, right?

 

so what i’m trying to say is, i didn’t reject him because he’s a 54 year old hairy bear who’s “not the best looking person.” i rejected him for other reasons.

 

to the poster who wrote, “what? he doesn’t like cash?” --- hmmm, while that’s a somewhat rude question, i do think it deserves an answer, because i suspect its origin stems from an ignorance about escorts. a smart #### doesn’t do things “just for cash.” see my point above, about burning out. fact is, Rocky The Poster paid me my fee, plus my outcall fee, plus he was generous enough to tip me as well. yes, i appreciated the cash. i live off of it, i support myself and my kids, and i need to work to pay my bills. but cash is not the end all, my friend. i believe that the sooner we all learn that lesson, the better.

 

the rest of you guys seemed to be able to speak up for the other side of things, but with all due respect, you’re still looking at it from your own perspective. which you should be, of course (we don’t want the barely interactive guys; it’s a waste of money, and our time). i’m just trying to help you see that there IS another side of this, a side where escorts are supposed to have fun and enjoy themselves, too.

 

what? does that sound crazy?

look, these are not only MY sentiments... i cannot tell you how many times i’ve had clients say they are so glad to be with me BECAUSE i am someone who really enjoys what we are doing. BECAUSE i'm real, and genuine, and honestly having a good time.

 

i do want to thank you guys for giving me and the other honest escorts credit for being upfront in how we speak with you. it’s not always easy to do (i could’ve told him i was unavailable, and then 6 months from now told him the same thing, ad nauseum, until two years and 16 phone calls later it finally dawns on him that Dave isn’t interested in him).

 

i’m especially grateful to Michaelnc’s comments. he “gets” the professionalism i was attempting to bring into the situation... and admits that he wouldn’t even want a more detailed description than “sorry, i don’t think we’re matched well.”

 

here’s what my email exchange with Rocky The Poster actually looked like:

Rocky: Hi Dave, we may have met before.  I like oral, butt playing, both ways, like to be rimmed (a favorite), cuddle, massage.  I'm 54, hairy bear, pudgy side so if that's an issue I understand. I like mutual release and getting sticky.

Dave: Sorry, I don't think we are matched well. I do remember seeing you previously. Good luck. Dave

Rocky: Wow, sorry to hear that.

______________________

 

...i bet he was. i felt sorry to write that. i’m not in the business of bringing negative things to people... in fact, just the opposite! i don’t like telling someone i can’t see them. fact is, i have only refused about six or seven people in the five years that i’ve been doing this. there are reasons. most of those guys (they have all been guys - although i get hired by women too, i’ve never had to refuse one... hmmm) have just taken it and moved on. i think two of them pressed me, with things like “why? i want to know what it is you don’t like about me.”

 

well, if you can’t hear it from an escort, who can you hear it from? for some people this is very important feedback. to get it from someone whom you were intimate with, but is still a “stranger” and you don’t have to see anymore, is ideal. that’s how i see it, at least... so if a former client pushes me with that, i’ll tell him.

 

i told them.

 

Rocky The Poster, i’m really not trying to make you unhappy. i didn’t call you up after the appointment to tell you it wasn’t good for me. you contacted me again. now, if you want more feedback on why we’re not getting together, i’ll share it with you. if you want it publicly on this Deli forum, i’ll do that. if you would rather i email you privately, i’m happy to do that instead. i obviously left you feeling hanging, and perhaps i should have been more delicate with how i stated things - for that i am truly sorry.

 

let me close here with one more point. i know from another side of things (hooking up, not hiring) about rejection. WE ALL DO. you can be the hottest guy on the planet, and STILL you will be rejected by someone. why? sometimes it’s simply because of preferences: “sorry, i’m only into black guys” (i’m not a black guy); “i’m only into hairy uncut men” (i’m not that either); “i’m only into bb poz guys”; (i’m not), “i’m only into guys who are 9+ inches”; (i’m not). see? the bottom line is this, you can’t take all rejections personally - and perhaps the best approach in these situations is just to move on.

 

peace, guys.

 

dave

aka rockin (on daddy’s reviews)

aka darwin (on men4rentnow)

(shit, man... what IS your name? see http://daveinfo.blogspot.com/#115230977655322464)

[KMEM]

If you read my comment I did say we didn't have your side of it, but now that we do, I must say, I am not favorably impressed.

 

You do whatever you do for whatever reasons (not cash, according to you or any need to do so)and clients will do whatever they do for whatever reasons. Not that we would have ever met but that conclusion is fine with me. I will keep my cash and you will do whatever it is that you do.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[rocky]

Dave, Darwin, etc; I do appreciate your response and your wanting to remain private about our previous session or your reason for not wanting to get together. I had another escort who advertised about making men feel good that "Im straight, don't do oral, anal or anything but you can do that on me." Well my first thought is hell why did you advertise about getting together with guys. Dave; what sory of surprised me was reading your bio and comments; if there was some particular then guess that should be known. Yeah, I am insecure obviously that's why I wanted my escort to know that. Anyhow, I'll move on I guess. Rocky