Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. John

[SAdler]

The abyss calls when libel abounds.

 

It's really pathetic that in less than 24 hours the queens are able to manufacture and drum up THIS much shit.

 

1. I never purported Jasper to be the love of my life. I never jump to use the "l" word but I have never felt about someone the way I do for him. We're both escorts, plain and simple. He asked for my help in getting my caliber of clientele and I am doing so. That clientele is above the bullshit that is slung across these boards and see the slingers for what they are, pathetic with nothing else better to do with their time.

 

2. Neither Jasper, nor myself are recreational drug users with a need to pay off anyone. I continue to remain happy and successful in this industry despite plenty on virulent attacks by outside forces. Those that know why I haven't been around know why and that's what matters. As to those with nothing better to than create malicious and untrue rumors, let them. It's nothing I'm not used to. I've chosen to avoid the message boards beyond p.r. like this and one random inflight internet post for the OBVIOUS reasons ... nobody, even my purported friends, can have dialog on a topic without denigrating someone's comment or making personal attacks. This is simply a promotion of an escort in Los Angeles, instead it turns into a vicious cat fight and rumor mill. Jesus guys, get lives.

 

3. KMEM, you've always had it out for me so in the grand scheme of things we'll just chalk it up to another instance of your bitter anger. Sorry you're not "one of my guys," I didn't realize that was part of the requirements to not be lied about and have rumors spread. I think I've sold a few escorts my viagra or cialis presciptions. By all means lock me up. I'm sure your "reliable sources" had NOTHING to gain by badmouthing me.

 

4. Rockhead, Jasper and I couldn't agree more. We hate the name. It was given to him at the start of his porn career (another reason the comment about the dick shot seems to be more shit stirring since it's pretty moot) and it's just kinda stuck. We'll try and stick with just Jasper at this point if that's alright with you

 

On another note, did you get to do lunch at the Cala di Volpe while you were in Sardinia? Exquisite. I can't help but be honest and laughingly say I thought of you the ENTIRE time I was there

 

Guess I'll be around a little more. I sincerely do have a more zen outlook on life. At some point you realize it's just not worth it to sweat the small stuff and by all means this board is small stuff in my life now. I've taken from it more useful life lessons than anyone can imagine but there's no need for me to give it the power it used to have over me because it's just not worth it.

 

Thank you Epigonos ... that Kessler threeway totally needs to happen sooner than later! PWIT, have missed you terribly. Jasper and I will be in DC mid October ... you know how to get ahold of me

[RockHard]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

"It was given to him at the start of his porn career"

 

By some drag queen who thinks the sight of Chi Chi LaRue is a sex stimulant, no doubt.

 

"another reason the comment about the dick shot seems to be more shit stirring"

 

No shit sling here. I did consider the photos posted were studio produced. Jasperlicious is retouched to surreal oblivion, typical of over-produced porn crap. He and the quality of his skin appear far more "real" and unretouched in his Hot House movie.

 

"He asked for my help in getting my caliber of clientele"

 

Precisely my point. How does one get "my caliber" when one takes the porn route? It seems a bit of a contradiction to me.

 

"I think I've sold a few escorts my viagra or cialis presciptions."

 

My goodness, I'm approaching fifty and I don't have Viagra and Cialis prescriptions. I guess if anorexic twinks who can put their legs behind their heads are your thing, I can imagine prescription hard-on enhancers come in handy when you need to fuck a smelly four-hundred-pounder with five chins and a face like a clenched fist.

 

Selling prescription drugs to anyone is a great way for rumors to start. Selling drugs to escorts is a great way to watch your career go bust. Competition is very "stiff" these days and when you provide the competition with the ability to turn on you, shit happens.

 

"did you get to do lunch at the Cala di Volpe while you were in Sardinia"

 

I didn't do Sardinia this year. I decided to explore the South of France and long drives through Chianti, Tuscany. For lunch, I succumbed to the supreme talents of Dania Lucherini at La Chiusa. Pure heaven!

[+ Lucky]

Lost in the above is any comment on what a cute guy Scott has introduced us to. Makes me rock hard.

 

The meanness in the thread amazed me.

[Guest josephga]

I agree the guy is very cute.

[SAdler]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

>No shit sling here. I did consider the photos posted were

>studio produced. Jasperlicious is retouched to surreal

>oblivion, typical of over-produced porn crap. He and the

>quality of his skin appear far more "real" and

>unretouched in his Hot House movie.

 

Rocky, I think it's been established that I am one of the more vain people in the escorting industry. I won't deny it. If I am as enamored with him as I am, that should in and of itself be enough to say that if his skin is even slightly imperfect it's not even worth worrying about. There isn't a pixel of photoshop on his body or ass though and I would defy you to prove otherwise.

 

I take care of myself and am attracted to clean cut guys. I used to have bad skin and be fat; no that's not compliment fishing ... I used to be REALLY overweight and went through two rounds of Accutane, I'm happy with myself today and haven't ever gotten any complaints.

 

Likewise Jasper is happy with himself and people are still paying plenty of money out of desire to hire him or jack off to his vids, I doubt we can say the same for you.

 

>Precisely my point. How does one get "my caliber"

>when one takes the porn route? It seems a bit of a

>contradiction to me.

 

It's pretty straight forward. I would think even someone with your reasoning skills could figure it out. Traveling clients, long term clients, wealthy or famous clients. He wants to branch out beyond hourly Johns on Rentboy and go beyond simply hooking to "escorting." Does that clarify the contradiction for you?

 

>My goodness, I'm approaching fifty and I don't have Viagra and

>Cialis prescriptions. I guess if anorexic twinks who can put

>their legs behind their heads are your thing, I can imagine

>prescription hard-on enhancers come in handy when you need to

>fuck a smelly four-hundred-pounder with five chins and a face

>like a clenched fist.

 

When I have a two hour client I want to make sure that despite the biologically expected refractory period I'm still "up" for more or completely ready at any moment on a weekend. As we've established many times over on these boards, not all clients are the sexual types of escorts so better to be prepared to give a client the best experience possible than to risk disappointment on either end. Has nothing to do with what I'm into (or not into) per se.

 

>Selling prescription drugs to anyone is a great way for rumors

>to start. Selling drugs to escorts is a great way to watch

>your career go bust. Competition is very "stiff"

>these days and when you provide the competition with the

>ability to turn on you, shit happens.

 

Not that Ms. Lohan is a role model but her "piece" on "Rumors" hit the nail on the head. People need to get a life. Even if I never got a new client again (which I find it difficult to see new people nowadays anyway) it wouldn't make a difference at this point.

[alanalt]

>The meanness in the thread amazed me.

 

Me too.

 

I wish I could say it surprised me as well, but this kind of reaction seems all too common these days... x(

[seeker630]

It may just be my perception, but it does seem that that the tone of this board turns catty or malicious more frequently in the past year. Or maybe I'm just losing patience and it's bothering me more.

[Guest Merlin]

Where is Jasper located? What city?

[+ newatthis]

>It may just be my perception, but it does seem that that the

>tone of this board turns catty or malicious more frequently in

>the past year. Or maybe I'm just losing patience and it's

>bothering me more.

>

 

My take is slightly different -- there are some posters who seem to provoke meanness in (certain) others. Scott is one of them, perhaps because he hasn't been afraid to express his own very strong opinions here.

 

I thought this Jasper guy's pictures were breathtaking, myself. If he had introduced himself, instead of being introduced by Scott, I bet the nastiness never would have happened.

 

(To avoid possible misunderstanding: I have never met or corresponded with either Jasper or Scott.)

[swallowU]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

"He wants to branch out beyond hourly Johns on Rentboy ...."

 

OUCH!

 

I would think that some of us "Hourly Johns on Rentboy" still provide an income stream for your monthly expenses from time to time.

[Epigonos]

You know guys I really don’t get it. One minute we complain bitterly that escorts don’t participate on the various forums of this site. The next minute when an escort does participate we bring out the daggers and knives and cut the guy to ribbons. I have been around here long enough to see vicious vendettas initiated and gleefully pursued, by various non-escorts, against a number of well known escorts. Strictly in alphabetical order; Benjamin Nicholas, Rick Munroe, Scott Adler, and Steven Draker, to name but four, have all been targets at various times. Some like Rick Munroe appear to ignore the criticism. Some like Steven Drake appear to patiently address the attacks. However, some like Benjamin Nicholas and Scott Adler, in particular, attack right back. Then all hell breaks loose.

 

If we believe an escort’s post is self aggrandizing, SO WHAT, ignore it and move on. If we believe that an escort’s post in irrelevant, SO WHAT, ignore it and move on. I have always thought that this site benefits from the widest possible participation. Viciously attacking another poster, client or escort, certainly doesn’t accomplish that end. I can assure you that if I were and escort the last place in the world I would post would be on this site. My attitude would simply be “I don’t need all this f-ucking bullshit”.

[AdamSmith]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

>OUCH!

>

>I would think that some of us "Hourly Johns on

>Rentboy" still provide an income stream for your monthly

>expenses from time to time.

 

Not this again. Can't escorts talk business reality here?

 

I am an hourly john, or an overnight or a weekend john, as opportunity and means dictate. As long as the guy showing up at my door for an hour does not tell me, then and there, that I ought not to have been so cheap, what's the problem?

[Bart]

I actually think the website for the past 6 months had been pretty quiet. Tom and Rick have squabbled amongst themselves and dragged us in, insert Rockhead and the forum has been lit ablaze.

 

Then certain escort's have their detractors and whenever they hit the board those detractors are immediately there to discredit those particular guys. God knows when ever the person associated with the initials BN came calling you would get 10-15 responses within minutes.

 

Despite what detractors say, I have never seen a bad review published for Scott. I have not been able to get a hook up with Scott, my inabilities to provide a definitive schedule the cause rather than anything with him. But I certainly would like to in the future. I find his commentary usually witty and his acerbic tone of the past has certainly softened through the years. I like Epigonos much prefer this forum with the inclusion of escorts. The gets difficult when we choose to insert a great deal of negativity into a thread that really did not call for it. But it does keep things interesting.

 

I do not see anything wrong with an escort presenting a new escort to us. Scott does put his reputation on the line when he shows public support for a new guy.

[MiamiLooker]

>However, some like Benjamin

>Nicholas and Scott Adler, in particular, attack right back.

 

 

BN??? Do you mean when he's "attacked" for posting blind items about other escorts' drug use and HIV status (how apropos to this thread)? Or, attacked for his explanation for stealing other writers' works, passing it off as his own for almost two years and then taking absolutely no consequences for his actions? Doesn't he usually have his flying monkeys respond to these things?

[N.N.]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

>Not this again. Can't escorts talk business reality here?

 

The fact that most escorts use ther term 'client' rather

than 'john' when posting here reflects a widely-held

understanding that 'john' has a less respectful connotation.

 

It's a small point--but as Scott promotes himself as a

class act, it struck me as out of place for him to use

a not-so-courteous term for clients.

[SAdler]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

I believe with this one I'll apologize to swallowU and agree with N.N. while thanking AdamSmith.

 

SwallowU and N.N. have a great point which I appreciate Adam backing me up on no matter what. It is business and the concept is pretty straight forward. While I did use the word "John" (hell I even capitalized it), it was done so (here is my favorite) IN CONTEXT of Pebble's question about "caliber" of client. When dealing with hourly clients there is the nomenclature of John vs. Client on occasion and I used that rhetoric to strengthen my point.

 

I have no problem admitting when I actually am wrong and I can see if someone was ACTUALLY offended by that (though I suspect otherwise) and apologize for the misunderstanding.

[swallowU]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

Thank you Scott. I thank N.N. as well for a more clearer post in what I was trying to convey.

 

No apology was ever expected but it certainly conveys a class act on your part.

[KMEM]

Epiginos,

 

Aren't you doing to the "civilian" posters exactly what you say we are doing to the escorts?

 

If ignoring things and moving on were so easy, why aren't you doing it?

 

We certainly don't have to be rude but isn't the point of the MB to air all kinds and types of subjects? And, we certainly don't have to agree, do we? Obviously, we don't and often.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[KMEM]

>I do not see anything wrong with an escort presenting a new

>escort to us. Scott does put his reputation on the line when

>he shows public support for a new guy.

 

I see nothing wrong with such a presentation in private but in public one assumes the appearance of being a pimp. A pimp is whatever a pimp is but most posters on this board, whether escorts or "civilians", seem to object to being classified as pimps.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[MiamiLooker]

>I see nothing wrong with such a presentation in private but in

>public one assumes the appearance of being a pimp. A pimp is

>whatever a pimp is but most posters on this board, whether

>escorts or "civilians", seem to object to being

>classified as pimps.

>

>Best regards,

>KMEM

>

 

That's a real stretch to suggest that Scott is pimping. Are you suggesting that Scott is taking a cut of JSJ's escort earnings (nothing that I've read from Scott's postings would support this)?

 

ML

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

>Traveling clients,

>long term clients, wealthy or famous clients. He wants to

>branch out beyond hourly Johns on Rentboy and go beyond simply

>hooking to "escorting."

 

If it's just the money he's thinking about, then yeah, I can see why he would seek out those types of clients. But personally, I've found that what's important to me, way more than money, is that the person be (as corny and simplistic as it sounds) nice and fun. I've been with wealthy and famous guys as well as guys who were living paycheck to paycheck. Either type can be really sweet or a nasty bastard, and I'd rather have an hour of fun than a week of "work." The wealth and "status" of a client does not guarantee that they're going to be a pleasant person. Again, if what your friend is concentrating on is just the money, then more power to him.

 

Of course, I don't do this for free, but I'm sure I'm not the only person in the world who gets paid for what he enjoys and who would stop if it ceased being enjoyable. Life's too short.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

>The fact that most escorts use the term 'client' rather

>than 'john' when posting here reflects a widely-held

>understanding that 'john' has a less respectful connotation.

 

I've only ever heard the term "john" on Police Woman or Charlie's Angels, so I've always thought it was just an outdated word, like "groovy" or "outtasight."

[whipped guy]

RE: Fresh Meat Press Release -- Jasper St. Johnson

 

As someone who is in a different (that is not the oldest) business these are indeed words of wisdom! Again "Rick is Right"!

 

And I might add that the wealth and status of a client does not necessarily always correspond to the frequency that services are requested or (heaven knows!) the total amount spent on those services! Very often it’s the little guy that will surprise you most!

[KMEM]

ML,

 

Scott is indeed "fronting" for this person. Why would he admit taking any part of his earnings?

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[SAdler]

You repeatedly prove my point spouting your malicious bullshit and denigrate your credibility with every keystroke. Thank you for doing my job for me.

 

Taking a cut? Are you SERIOUS?! Really?

 

Rusty

Adam Marks

Spencer Whitman

Jasper

 

Just to name a few. Talk to any of them (particularly Rusty who I have been on again off again with in recent times) and you will find the only thing I have done is INCREASED their income, never once taken a cut.

 

The joke of Madame Adler at the Adler Agency is cute but seriously, if I were taking a cut I would have actually OPENED that agency right now. Some people say, "why don't the escorts promote themselves on here."

 

Jasper took ONE look at the 24 replies in less than twenty four hours and (in a dreamy southern accent) exclaimed, "Wow those people are so mean, why do even participate in there?"

 

One has to wonder ...