SF Escort

[Guest Ca Robert]

http://www.rentboy.com/listing.aspx?lid=162376&scid=6666033&sp=1&pos=6

 

Does this guy think he's looking for date? Is anyone else turned off by his ad? As a middle-aged guy with a few extra lbs, I am really offended by his ad. It's clear he's in the wrong business!

 

Do guys respond with these kinds of disclaimers about "no fat guys, old guys", etc?

[denny]

This guy is an obvious asshole. I tried to set up an appointment with him in another city and was flatly turned down. I am in great shape but obviously not muscular enough for this guy. You are right. He is in the wrong business.

[+ glutes]

Maybe he should go see Behrend Baron Patton!

[Epigonos]

Ca Robert there is absolutely not reason to be offended by this guy. I can only imagine what he would think of me at age 67. He is obviously a fool. The guy has a nice body and a nice cock, however, his ad would lead many of us to believe that his brain is more than a little lacking. I am always amazed by some new escorts who think they can make a fortune being paid to have sex with young, good looking, well built and well hung clients. Why they believe guys that fit that description would pay for sex only proves that they are stupid. He will either get real, real quick, or more likely just fade away.

[JT Brooklyn]

He definitely has the Qualifications for Working It!

 

BUT I would guess from the Large Portfolio at 22 he is doing Porno

and as most agree is really looking for a Hunky Sugar Daddy!

 

As most Working Guys have learned..Good Luck with "That Attitude"

;-)

[+ Axiom2001]

This "boi" professes that he is discreet but is forgetting his biases which will not enable his fantasyland successes in this business!

 

When I perused his ad and noticed that he only wanted "manly white men," I was almost encouraged to send him an email to address his apparent discriminatory nature, al beit his prerogative!

 

A few years back I wrote an escort who stated in his ad that he preferred NOT to be with blacks. I sent him a very candid email regarding his tastes and desires. Lo and behold he fired back a rather warm and moving (detailed) email as to why he'd written such in his ad. I was moved. I contacted him and has since has had some of the best sex during the time that I have been forced to engage the services of escorts.

 

I shall always remember this, but for the man in question in this thread-- I will not expend any energy to write to him!

[Rod Hagen]

Caveat: in my 9 years of being an escort, from mid twenties to now mid thirties, I've never refused a client. That's me.

 

Now Luke: Not every handsome, muscular, nicely-dicked, young man is willing to rent himself out. Most aren't. (WERE YOU?) Luke is at least willing to give it a try, simultaneously being honest, saying no to drugs and unsafe sex and, unfortunately, being youthfully insensitive.

 

But, at least for now, only to masculine, in-shape, older men of his race. That's so horrible?

[+ glutes]

Mr. Luke has no reviews?

Is he the real McCoy??

[seattlebottom]

>But, at least for now, only to masculine, in-shape, older men

>of his race. That's so horrible?

>

>

 

To answer the question: no it is not horrible at all. In fact, I wish more escorts were as candid so that us clients would not waste our time and money on someone who finds us repulsive. However, when and if Luke ever changes his mind about what kinds of men he will see, his stated preferences are so specific than any reversal to any part of it will seem disingenuous.

 

I can vividly recall some years back the mini uproar that occurred when an ecort's aversion to African American men was made known. I went to that escort's webpage and not only did he not like African Americans he also stated a dislike for Hispanic men. Being Hispanic, I naturally made note of that. Some time later this same escort advertised that he would be in my neck of the woods and that now he would see Hispanic men because he had met some "cool" ones. Did I hire him? NO. Why? Because he had actually taken the time to state that he was repulsed by me and others of my ethnicity. You see, the problem with a first impression is that you only have one chance to make it.

[+ glutes]

Wow, Luke requires that you send him a pic first, just for consideration. $250/hour at Becks Motor Inn, he's a real class guy!

[Bart]

He is not the first to ask that his clients come from a selective group. He at least stated the request in a reasonable manner, better than stating "Old and fat stay away" as I have seen written by others. Who knows possibly he has hard time getting it up unless there is a physical attraction. At least I know I do not have to waste my time approaching him, making an appointment and then him not being able to perform completely. How many clients are willing to supply a picture ahead of time?

 

It is his business and he has the right to select whom he wishes to see.

[Rod Hagen]

I must be a glutton for punishment. NOTHING good will come out of me posting the email, with lots of additions, tweaks, and a couple of culls, I sent to SeattleBottom on this subject, and yet here I am doing it.

 

"Hey there SB.

 

I didn't want to continue the dialogue in the thread out of fear of coming off defending a racist! Of course I don't defend Luke's wildly insensitive choice of words, nor do I think he's a racist, just unsure of himself.

 

Rejection stings like a motherfucker, and I can hear the sting in your "voice" as well as that of some of the other posters. Please Please Don't feel that because someone, escort or internet free hookup, isn't into your type that they find you, as you wrote, "repulsive." That thinking is NOT going to make you feel good. And it's most often not true.

 

What is true, what is more likely, as you said, is that he just doesn't have experience yet (with people overweight, with non-whites, etc.) As time goes by IF he wants to continue escorting, his tastes and preferences will most likely expand along with his experience. This happens to every escort who sticks with the business.

 

Nine years ago I jumped in with both feet and was fortunate to find that all guys turn me on: big small black white older younger differently-abled, you name it.

 

BUT I didn't know that when I started, it was just my good-fortune that I'm wired that way. Most men aren't. Most men, and probably most escorts, AT FIRST, are terrified of finding someone they can't work with sexually because none of the good guys want to hurt anyone's feelings by rejecting them or making them feel undesired.

 

So I believe it's not such a bad idea for escorts, fearful of moving too quickly into anyone-goes territory, to start escorting in a limited capacity. If you're 23 and the idea of sleeping with 45 or 55 year old men doesn't scare you (it would have me when I was 23 to be honest), but the idea of jumping into bed with someone 400 lbs does (boy I've done that many many many times, and it's always a trip!) then I think an escort should be able to be honest, in the beginning, about who they are excited to see (in Luke's case "older white guys") and, TACTFULLY PLEASE, who they are NOT willing to see.

 

I had a fanFUCKINGTastic couple of hours with Epigonos when we met a few years ago.

 

But his presumptive assumptions lead to wrong conclusions. Luke is not a fool. Not all escorts are trying to make a living, as I am. Many, most actually, are doing it for extra cash, and so someone like Luke is not likely dooming himself financially by being selective. Epigonos is also incorrect to assume that the kind of men Luke is expressly looking for, OLDER INSHAPE WHITE MEN, do not hire. They really really really do. And so it is not true that if Luke does not need to make a living from escorting he must expand his restrictions,that he must "Get Real", or he will "fade away." --Epigonos

 

What is true is that as time goes by and guys like him see more types of guys, those limits will dissolve as they discover all kinds of sex is all kinds of fun. But he doesn't HAVE to adapt to survive if he's not working to survive.

 

The problem is that it is not possible for an escort to say, "I'm not interested in seeing (xxx, Scottish people for example) right now" even as tactfully as possible without everyone blasting him on the internet, and feelings being hurt.

 

The attitude is that once you've decided to escort, you must take what comes. Which seems odd, because, as far as I know, no other laborer-lawyer, shoe shine boy, cardiologist-is obligated to take just any client who asks. However, the crucial difference is that a Cardiologist who refuses someone because they are black, is discriminating, and maybe a racist.

 

But I think we can all agree that someone, escort or not, who is not attracted to say, Asians, is certainly not a racist. That category is simply “not his bag.” (as far as he knows.)

 

In my opinion the decision to decide to escort is akin to deciding to explore being gay. In both cases in the initial stages, anything that comes up that's more than the man bargained for can stop progress cold.

 

I also think that any escort who routinely has sex with individuals who AREN’T his bag, even if, hypothetically, he manages successfully to disguise his dissatisfaction every time, is going to be miserable. And nobody should be miserable at their work. I don’t give a damn if they’re being paid. "Every" working person is getting paid, and every working person should do what they can to do what they love every day.

 

A lawyer should love what he does and take the cases that make him excited. He should NOT time after time accept the ones that grind him down. A shop owner should sell the things that make him hot to sell, not the things that disinterest him. A cardiologist should challenge himself every day if that’s what keeps him fresh.

 

I don't know what the solution is. But I know I HATE absolutely HATE when client internet cruisers hear of a man who has some INITIAL restrictions and immediately start with Who The Fuck Does He Think He IS? tirades. The implication that an escort is not allowed to have any say in who he fucks infuriates me. Some say I have a short fuse

 

So, it seems that you mostly have the right attitude, but it also sounds that when escorts have restrictions, you take it too personally. Understandable, NOBODY likes to be rejected, and EVERYBODY is afraid of rejection (believe me, the first time a client sees me and says, "you're too old" or "not muscular enough" or whatever, I'm going to be inconsolable for a couple days.)

 

Chin up, there are lots of us who would LOVE To fuck the hell out of you, these other boys don't know what they are missing. :o

 

"

 

Let the flaming begin: I will be out of town for several days without internet access and therefore unable to defend myself.

[seattlebottom]

>I must be a glutton for punishment. NOTHING good will come

>out of me posting the email, with lots of additions, tweaks,

>and a couple of culls, I sent to SeattleBottom on this

>subject, and yet here I am doing it.

>

 

Okay......maybe I'll go check my e-mail now.....

[Bart]

Dear Rod:

Again you show why you have the capacity to be more than an escort. Thank you for your positive approach to the occupation you have chosen.

 

I have been very fortunate to meet many escorts like yourself who have great capacity to make lesser attractive, over weight older guys like myself feel like a 25 year old stud for couple of hours and if lucky have a positive approach to life in the days that follow.

 

Now if we non-traveling guys could just pry you out of California for a bit so the rest of us can enjoy that wonderful personality and all your physical assets, life really would be good.

[Rod Hagen]

>Now if we non-traveling guys could just pry you out of

>California for a bit so the rest of us can enjoy that

>wonderful personality and all your physical assets, life

>really would be good.

 

Thank you Bart. Made my night!