The economy NOT affecting escorts

[ariadne1880]

Based on the responses I've gotten -- or not gotten -- I can only guess that the lukewarm economy must not be affecting the escorting business. The non-response rate from escorts is still running around 70% or so and the one or two word responses is about the same. The number of escorts saying "I only do 1 hour appts" has remained about the same, too.

 

It's good to see that one segment of our economy is still doing well.

 

Mark

[Guest josephga]

I'm not sure about escorts but I have noticed here in atlanta some of the massage guys are charging less. I knew a few that use to charge 15.00 more pr hour than me but are now charging less. some are doing 90 minutes for what they use too get for 60 minutes..

[Guest ncm2169]

< I can only guess that the lukewarm economy must not be affecting the escorting business.

 

First, hello from Mark to Mark. :*

 

May I ask what market(s) you're referring to?

 

I can share with you that the escorts I am in touch with (including my roomie) are definitely experiencing a downturn in their business (this being the Twin Cities market).

 

There's a theory that, while the economy may be in the tank, libidos never wane, so porn and related activities always stay on an even keel during a recession. We may just test the limits of that theory this time. (More self-satisfaction and less paying for it?).

 

Another thing to thank W for! x(

[+ Axiom2001]

I've noticed that some guys in SF have deleted their ads from RB and have gone over to C'sList where they request fewer dollars.

 

Right now there is one guy at RB who is 10+; his rates on RB are higher than I normally pay. On C'sList, he's $50.00+ cheaper, and if I have the opportunity to meet him, I'm definitely going to contact him via Craig's List!

[Guest pj4florida]

>< I can only guess that the lukewarm economy must not be

>affecting the escorting business.

>

>First, hello from Mark to Mark. :*

>

>May I ask what market(s) you're referring to?

>

>I can share with you that the escorts I am in touch with

>(including my roomie) are definitely experiencing a downturn

>in their business (this being the Twin Cities market).

>

>There's a theory that, while the economy may be in the tank,

>libidos never wane, so porn and related activities always stay

>on an even keel during a recession. We may just test the

>limits of that theory this time. (More self-satisfaction and

>less paying for it?).

>

>Another thing to thank W for! x(

 

I can tell you that I know very well many escorts and they are all telling me that they are not even close to what they used to do except certain locations like DC. LA, Tampa, and Chicago especially

 

PJ

[Guest zipperzone]

>some are doing 90 minutes for what they use too get for

>60 minutes..

 

Probably a smart move in a slower economy. Chances are that they would not be booked for the time devoted to the "extra 30 minutes" and this type of discount could attract new clients.

[+ Italiano]

While a few masseurs in NY (massagem4m) have actually lowered their fees and have specials running on their ads, I have to say that some of the perhaps "hot" escorts didn't and actually somehow raised their fees.

 

For example, John Williams has raised his fees of $25, which is more than 10% of his previous fee...

[ariadne1880]

Chicago, LA, and New York. Still the same number of 2 word e-mails, lack of responses, etc. I was being sarcastic. I would have thought that escorts would have been more attentive about that sort of thing considering the economy but I haven't encountered that.

 

There's a guy I found on Craigslist who is about an hour away from my place in the country. I was very surprised to find him as there are NO escorts in this area at all. He's a 21 year old Matt Damon look-alike (actually a bit better looking than Damon but with the same kind of body) ... he wants $200 an hour. I basically told him "you've got to be kidding. You will not find anyone around here to pay that. I'd be surprised if you can find clients around here at all."

 

He worked something out. But some of these guys needs to get realistic.

 

Mark

[Guest josephga]

i track my sales and this year im behind by about 250.00 compared too last year

[rentingdad]

The top guys (both escorts and clients) aren't at all affected by the so-called slowing economy. It's the hourly clients that will try and use the economy as an excuse to get guys to cut their rates and it will be the second tier escorts that will do the cutting.

 

You get what you pay for.

[ariadne1880]

Well, the reason I started this thread is because I haven't seen that happening at all. Same guys, same lack of response, same old same old.

 

You would think that considering the economy -- to say nothing about proper customer service -- some of these guys would act in a more professional manner to help business.

 

Mark

[whipped guy]

I once took a course that preached that a business should be run like an escort service... and treating clients with respect was certainly part of the main gist of the course.

 

Actually I think most escorts really need to take some business courses... and courses that include how to treat a client upon initial contact, scheduling, not to mention the financial aspects of pricing and marketing as well.

 

It is no wonder that my favorite escort of all time also had extensive experience in business and marketing.

[Guest zipperzone]

>i track my sales and this year im behind by about 250.00

>compared too last year

 

Hope you're not about to go on welfare :-)

[Guest josephga]

lol I have allot of regulars. i started a couple of new things that are bring in a great deal of new clients. instead of charging the same hour rate for everyone regardless of it being therapeutic or therapeutic/sensual combo, i started charging those who want a therapeutic only the option of paying less.. I have started a 10 minute guarantee if a client isn't happy with the massage during the first 10 minutes they have the option of leaving without paying. Iv started a personal trainer referral program. for every client a personal trainer sends me they get a 20.00 credit toward their own massages..

[david000]

My Regular escort Destiny Longleg Lives in Las Vegas, http://www.boys2rentnow.com/destinylongleg and he was worried last year for the escorts advertising expences so he created http://www.boys2rentnow.com ---A FREE SITE TO ALL--- to loosen the grip around the escorts "pocket books" from RB & M4RN. he has told me 2 weeks ago that the economy is BOOMING in Las Vegas STILL. Destiny and the other escorts seem to have not suffered much with economic downfall of the US as in other cities. But like during the depression Gambling, "Escorting" , and Alcohol is what survived and what man felt comfort in. He said that his house has lost $150,000 in value but his client calls have almost tripled. Las Vegas will not fall into dispare... History and Human nature will not allow it. ]

 

I met a boy in Charlotte NC a month ago who was charging Half of what he was charging last year. Since I paid last years price and ignored the discount, I will Not mention his name.

 

If anything I think the escorts should double their prices and make what they can whilst the economy suffers. If they all double their prices, we ALL know that us Sugar Daddies will Still hire them. because we would have NO other Choice!

 

GOD Save the Escort

David

[+ glutes]

Oh yes it is!

A well reviewed LA escort told me his phone calls inquiring for business are down 50%, from last year. His acutual appointments are down over 30% from the same period...

[buttlvr99]

It seems to me that a downturn is regional. In the top markets like NYC, I don't think there is any effect. Over 400 entries now on Rentboy and may of them don't bat an eye on charging $300. Like everything else in life top tier markets get top tier escorts and clients, it's the second tier that may be feeling a pinch.

[seaboy4hire]

>My Regular escort Destiny Longleg Lives in Las Vegas,

>http://www.boys2rentnow.com/destinylongleg and he was worried last

>year for the escorts advertising expences so he created

>http://www.boys2rentnow.com ---A FREE SITE TO ALL--- to loosen the

>grip around the escorts "pocket books" from RB &

>M4RN. he has told me 2 weeks ago that the economy is BOOMING

>in Las Vegas STILL. Destiny and the other escorts seem to have

>not suffered much with economic downfall of the US as in other

>cities. But like during the depression Gambling,

>"Escorting" , and Alcohol is what survived and what

>man felt comfort in. He said that his house has lost $150,000

>in value but his client calls have almost tripled. Las Vegas

>will not fall into dispare... History and Human nature will

>not allow it. ]

>

>I met a boy in Charlotte NC a month ago who was charging Half

>of what he was charging last year. Since I paid last years

>price and ignored the discount, I will Not mention his name.

>

>If anything I think the escorts should double their prices and

>make what they can whilst the economy suffers. If they all

>double their prices, we ALL know that us Sugar Daddies will

>Still hire them. because we would have NO other Choice!

>

>GOD Save the Escort

>David

 

I really like http://www.boys2rentnow.com The few emails I've had with Destiny have been read with open ears imho. It's got all the bells and whistles that the others have with the exception that is is free to list. I just hope that he implements something that will weed out stale ads.

 

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Greg

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[david000]

>Oh yes it is!

>A well reviewed LA escort told me his phone calls inquiring

>for business are down 50%, from last year. His acutual

>appointments are down over 30% from the same period...

 

 

Are you talking of LA or Las Vegas?

I was speaking of Las Vegas.

 

David

[Bart]

This has been a very interesting market. Although markets took a huge drop, many people had values go up 25% or more last year so this is a typical cycle, it is just that it is the financial and home markets taking it in the shorts.

 

I have heard Vegas hotels are filled, but surprisingly gaming income is down. Home values down so only an issue if you are selling. I think men still need sex so they will get it. I think some hourly times will be down, but I would think overnight business may be okay. Believe it or not core industries of this country are actually doing well MFG especially with overseas connections have seen orders up 20%.

 

I definitely think cities where financial industry is a major player would be feeling it the worst. I think many middle to upper executives have to be on pins and needles. Many will have more huge cuts ahead and probably a few more banks will combine, although where I live in a three mile stretch on a main road there has to be at least 15 different banks all with huge buildings.

 

It might be well for escorts to consider making that first trip to Europe. Even though the dollar buys less, you can charge your US fee in Euros and do quite well. My friends in the industry say that overseas business is the best it has every been and now considering staying in Europe for an extended period of time.

[Guest andrewd]

Thanks for the tip on Europe, Bart! Have been considering a trip abroad and wondered if it was a good time to go considering the value of a dime, eh, oops, I mean a dollar! Oh, wait, isn't that the value of a dollar now?!

 

Thanks again!

[Kevin Slater]

>Thanks for the tip on Europe, Bart! Have been considering a

>trip abroad and wondered if it was a good time to go

>considering the value of a dime, eh, oops, I mean a dollar!

>Oh, wait, isn't that the value of a dollar now?!

 

After meeting up with a client visiting from Europe (but getting paid in dollars), an escort buddy of mine mused that he felt like a Tijuana hooker. "You pay me in pesos? No Euros? Ok. That's ok. I still like you anyways…"

 

Kevin Slater

[david000]

I have just gotten news from my London "playmate" http://www.boys2rentnow.com/Companion that London Escorts have been suffering in a horrible way. Phones are not ringing, email boxes are empty, & when a client does make contact that they are asking for Major Discounts.

According to personal friends and associates London and the UK, they are Not having the same economical problems that the USA is currently having. Does anyone have a real reason why the escorts in the UK are suffering so much? Are the other Sugar Daddies in the UK just taking advantage of the situation that the USA Escorts are in and demanding discounts because many UK escorts travel back and forth to NYC and offering discounts in the USA?

 

Honest thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.

 

Deeply Concerned

David

 

Also, has anyone had the chance to meet http://www.boys2rentnow.com/ipetr007 yet? Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

[Juan Vancouver]

Another London's perspective.

 

Hey David,

 

You should have not be worried, stud. Worrying is bad for the skin and the libido. Your friend may be going through a rough patch perhaps created by advertising or some specific circumstance specific to him. (And in the end we all have had periods of slow business followed by an increase. It is just a cyclical job.) I live in London, (Well, I am in London at least half of the time) and I have not seen any reduction in neither work or enquiries. If anything I have been getting considerably longer appointments lately. A few other friends have stayed either stable or gotten a bit busier. Our theory is that the weather is getting a bit better and even when there is a suffering economy in the States, London, being the only financial centre in the world that can simultaneously trade with the rest of the world because of its location, always has a steady influx of money from all over the world.

 

Perhaps your friend may be suffering because Rentboy.com had the silly idea of almost giving away free ads to escorts as long as they paid some. Now there are 30 plus new escorts that have materialized out of the blue in the London listings. But I have heard from most of the established escorts here that business is as always.

 

It is my belief that in strong economic capitals in the world the luxury industries hardly ever suffer during recessions. They may modify their products to make them look less decadently expensive, but they keep selling their wares all the way till the end of the thin cows period. (Think very expensive jewelry made in the States in the thirties.)

 

With that in mind, I think that the only factor that will decide which providers stay afloat, which others get washed away by the current and which thrive will be the personal touch, the degree to which the service is provided with a warm smile, a reliable managing eye and a wholehearted desire to fulfill a vocation.

 

I would tell your friend to relax, enjoy his job and have fun with it, and in no time he will see how business goes back to normal. People keep talking about some possible recession in the UK in the future, but truth is that things have not been better than now.

 

I hope this at least offers a complementing view,

 

Receive a tight hug from a beautiful, sunny and moist London.

[david000]

RE: Another London's perspective.

 

I do very much appreciate the time and thought that you put into your response. If only others could follow your example. I am relieved that you are doing well and others you know along side you. I do not want to see the "boys" of the world suffer as I did as an escort in the early 80's. Be well, Be safe, and Always be Beautiful

 

David