Would you still hire someone even if they don't find your race attractive?

[Guest GBoy]

I recently saw these two really hot masseur couple Barak and Ben's profile on Manhunt.net, they clearly indicated on their profile that they are not attracted to Asian guys. Seems I am Asian, I decide not to hire them in the future even thought I find them both very attractive and the 4 hand massages sounds very hot, but I just couldn't bring myself to be in that sensual situation with someone who clearly don't find me attractive. I am sure this can apply to any other escort situation. Would you hire someone after you found out that they find your race unattractive?

[+ Lucky]

Why of course not. I regret that escorts refuse to hire certain races, but at least if they are honest about it, they save the client the cost of what will probably be a bad experience.

[Steven_Draker]

GBoy,

If I was the client, I wouldn't. You're always safe if you ask in your preliminary email exchange with the given escort if he's comfortable with seeing (black, asian, etc clients). Some clients chose not to do so. I'm equally comfortable with any race and this isn't really important to me, but understand if others are not.

 

Steven D. ~

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[Guest josephga]

it says in the original post a masseur.. why would a masseur give a shit about race..

[JT Brooklyn]

GBoy...

Honesty from Both sides is the only way to go. These 2 Hunky Guys Work It in NYC, where there is a Large Asian Population. Many Asian Men are into Massage Therapy.

 

Right or Wrong this is the way they decide to do business. Just as it is your right Not to Hookup with a Working Guy for whatever reason!

 

There's a very Well known and Reviewed Asian Working Guy, who due to his ethnicity is not Hired! Is it right NO..But that's the way it is.

 

;-)

[Guest josephga]

When I started out I thought allot of asian guys would be into massage but here in atlanta i get very few. maybe 3 to 6 a year. same for black clients 3 to 6 a year. I do around 600 massages a year the majority are white guys over the age of 35. i had a 81 year old buy a massage 3 weeks ago..

[Boomer]

I would pass. Not that we expect those we hire to be attracted to us, but when there's such a specific racial bias that's deliberately stated, why put yourself in such an uncomfortable position? This analogy may be too extreme, but that would be like an African-American hiring a massage therapist who runs an ad wearing a Klan robe. A bit awkward, unless you're into role playing :-)

[Guest GBoy]

thanks Boomer, I totally agree. I understand people have their own preferences on physical beauty, but to separate a whole race of people is just very limiting. And within each race there are also lots of differences, and different looks, just because you are not into a certain look, that shouldn't totally exclude everyone from that race. It just made me mad that to see someone in their profile says "I am not a racist, but I just don't like Asian, black or Middle Eastern", That kind of narrow mind I thought shouldn't be including in the gay society, seems we are also minority ourselves.

[Bilbo]

So, why are you attracted to someone with such a narrow mind? Phah! It would be the same as anyone over 55 hiring Benjy, who has said in print that sex with people that age bores him. You are going to be interacting with a person, not a picture, so go for as close to a real person as you can get. That's what should be sexy to us anyway. Not someone with a staple through his navel. LOL

[Guest josephga]

are they advertising their services on manhunt or is that their hookup profile? on massage m4m their ads say nothing about certain races.. what they look for in their hookup profiles may have no reflection on how they run their business

[+ Axiom2001]

>I would pass. Not that we expect those we hire to be

>attracted to us, but when there's such a specific racial bias

>that's deliberately stated, why put yourself in such an

>uncomfortable position? This analogy may be too extreme, but

>that would be like an African-American hiring a massage

>therapist who runs an ad wearing a Klan robe. A bit awkward,

>unless you're into role playing :-)

 

 

 

Two years ago there was a lot of discussion here regarding a very "well-known" escort who's been highly reviewed here who preferred NOT to be with black guys (African Americans). At the time I went to his website and read for myself his likes and dislikes.

 

Months passed and the topic arose again in conjunction with this man. I sent him an email and asked if he would not mind responding to my query. He replied candidly of which I quite appreciated. I emphatized and sympathized with him in what he cited in his lengthy response.

 

Guess what? He and I did meet months later and had a fantastic two hours. I hope to see him again if and when he returns to the West Coast.

 

In regard to giving a massage to a person based on race, I find that preposterous. Would these two guys turn down all guys who happen to be overweight? bald? too skinny? have a very small dick? If they chose NOT to give Asians a massage, one can bet that other ethnicities are suspect, too!

[Guest ncm2169]

Just a brief comment: IMHO, sex is the most personal activity we humans engage in, and therefore I find it totally acceptable to be discriminating in our choice(s) of sex partners, and that goes for escorts also (if they choose).

[Guest josephga]

ncm2169 I agree I'm assuming the ad on manhunt is a hook up profile and not their business profile. just because they don't find a certain race attractive for hooking up doesn't mean that they would be rude or treat them badly on a massage table.. I personally would never want to be intimate with anyone thats married or in a relationship but that has nothing to do with my work as a masseur and i would still take those people as clients..

[Guest GBoy]

You are correct in that sex is a very intimate and personal thing, I understand that, I assume that you judge from person to person, but not reject them as a whole. That's what bothers me. They might not have listed on their massage profile, but just the thought of someone who find something wrong with your race just shows a poor character, I might find their body attractive, but of course I will spare myself and won't hire them.

[Damascene]

I've hired Ben, when he was an escort. His joint review is up with Tom Isern and Steven Draker, even though it was serial and Steven and Ben/Marcus had no interaction. You can read my review for what I thought.

 

Should a person of Asian descent hire them? I can't say. I am not Asian.

 

When you are hiring anyone, do you know their prejudices? If their manhunt ad (which is not an escort ad) says they hate overweight men, does that mean he can't be a good escort to an overweight client? I am not sure.

 

I will say I know quite a few the escort who have ads on manhunt, and I know what their ads say. It has influence my buying habits.

[raulgmanzo]

It is ones right to have preferences. Preferences can of course be difficult to understand or explain in any logical manner. I probably have my own difficult to justify prejudices. Still I personally feel that strong racial dislikes may be a symptom of limited or unfortunate experience. Just my opinion. Frankly I feel the same about age discrimination.

 

Perhaps my view point comes from growing up and living in racially mixed communities and having friends of every race and age. I have seen so many blacks, whites, and asians who are gorgeous, average and unatractive. It just seems like race is so irrelevant. I've had very hot sex partners of every race and been lucky enough to experience some very very fun clients much older than 55 so I just don't understand racial or age prejudices.

 

Those kinds of prejudices are to me as arbitrary as saying I don't take clients whose weight in pounds is an even number.

 

So yeah I would want to hire somebody capable of slightly more subtle thought.

[Guest zipperzone]

>Just a brief comment: IMHO, sex is the most personal

>activity we humans engage in, and therefore I find it totally

>acceptable to be discriminating in our choice(s) of sex

>partners, and that goes for escorts also (if they choose).

 

But they were not advertising as escorts. They call themselves maseurs and as such the race of the client should be on no importance.

[Guest GBoy]

Nicely Put Raul. As a Buddhist, I really try my best not to judge people , even though I do fall off the wagon now and then. And seriously, I wouldn't know how good a sex partner an escort can pretend to be, but why hire someone you think they are pretending.

[Guest josephga]

zipper i agree with you except for one thing on manhunt they arnt advertising as masseurs or escorts. thats a personal hookup profile. this is why i don't have personal profiles anywhere. I'm only attracted to guys in their 20 to mid 30;s hight and weight proportioned. But i don't think those things should matter when it comes to buying a massage since its only a massage and those preferences would be on a personal profile and not my professional one.. I'm not attracted to women either but id still sell them a massage lol A male client asked me a few weeks ago if i was bi because i take female clients I found it to be a very ignorant question after all this is a business

[SteveStacks]

I don't find people with

1. bad hygiene or

2. bad attitudes

sexy, for fairly obvious practical reasons.

And of course anyone, escort or otherwise should have the prerogative of refusing to play with people who fall into one of those categories for their own (and in some cases future partners) protection.

 

But honestly, i gotta say that i think one of the prerequisites for BEING a good escort is having wide taste in men.

 

It's like a ballet dancer saying, "I do every dance movement but that one and that one" and then expecting to be as well received as dancers with the full range of movement.

 

There are plenty of escorts who will be attracted to your type...see one of them....

 

And if you're really looking for a massage, whether the masseur is attracted to you or not is a non-issue....my masseur friends find it endlessly annoying when they're offering someone a service as a masseur that can improve their clients health and well being for days, or even months, and the guys so distracted trying to turn things sexual they miss out on the massage (and get at best half-assed sex, if they get any sex at all.)

[Okliehomo]

Some of you might think this is way off topic and if so, I apologize. I have never encountered the race issue. Have yet to see an ad where an escort refuses to see white men....but I have, of late, encountered escorts who are straight. Basketball-watching, ESPN quoting, pussy eating straight men...

 

See, I am old school. Misguidedly so. I thought if you really like to just get fucking pounded by a really big dick, that you might have some latent attraction to men. Well, I found out that isn't necessarily the case. I was told that he had ZERO attraction to men and looking back, his eyes were sure closed and he was definately in another place.

 

The point (at last) is that for me, feeling desired is a huge part of the deal. Huge. Ok, so is his ass....but, would I knowingly hire someone that has NO attraction for me whatsoever??? None? Be it gender or race? No, I wouldn't. Ok, I did, but I wouldn't. It sort of left me feeling pathetic and that this was just all about money, that they weren't all going to move to Oklahoma and be my pool boy/boyfriend....

 

Part of the skill/talent of a really great escort is making the client feel that the escort is as into the sex as the client is. Ty does that, so does David and I think you only get that from escorts that are not only merely gay but really most sincerely gay.

 

Okie

[Guest backbaygayguy]

>Part of the skill/talent of a really great escort is making

>the client feel that the escort is as into the sex as the

>client is. Ty does that, so does David and I think you only

>get that from escorts that are not only merely gay but really

>most sincerely gay.

>

In my experience, a great escort isn't just making the client feel that the escort is as into the sex as the client is -- the guy **really is** into the sex as much as the client. These guys enjoy sex with all kinds of guys, and if the client reciprocates with enjoyment, then it's a mutual feel-good game. David **really enjoys fucking** and if you **really enjoy getting fucked,** then both of you are going to have one helluva great time. Sure, David is great at (and works hard at) getting you to the point where you're turned on and ready -- but I really think he enjoys it as much as his partner does once you are both into it. A good escort can "read" a guy and knows how to get him to this point. (Unfortunately, I've missed Ty because of schedule issues -- come back East soon, Ty.)

[Okliehomo]

I get what you are saying....David and Ty are two of the best of the best and they are really into it when they are with you, but with no disrespect to anybody (and most of all, not them)... how do you know for sure? If it was really all about you, then why does it cost $$$$ a night? Believe me, I could fake it for less and have.....and I was paying, dammit.

 

My real point (and I do have one) was about the original question. Would you hire someone who you know finds you unattractive? Has no desire for you at all? Either by race or orientation? I was just saying that for me, these days, I won't hire anymore men that so obviously don't like men. No matter how hot his ass is. And I know that I switched from the plural to the singular...sorry.

 

I promise. But Hell, yeah, Ty and David. Can't wait.

 

Okie

[JT Brooklyn]

Okie..Most definitely Agree! I guess that's why alot of the Muscle Worship Guys DONOT consider themselves as "Working Guys"..Given the Lmited Interaction IF in some cases any at all!

 

Personally No Interaction is a good reason for No Contact! BUT at least in the "Age of Viagra" most of the Working Guys can GET IT UP, whether or not they are into "Whoever" they are Hanging out with!

 

;-)

[Epigonos]

You know the same issue arises with age. I am 67 and I ALWAYS inform an escort I am considering hiring, early in our emailing, of my age. I tell him that if age is an issue for him to let me know. In over five years of hiring and contacting dozens of escorts only two or three guys have ended all communication at that point. I would far rather know early that the guy doesn’t want to spend time with somebody my age. It would be far more embarrassing were that fact become evident at the time of our meeting.

An interesting aside is that all the most highly regarded and best reviewed escorts that I have contacted have NEVER expressed a concern regarding age, race or weight. The real professionals NEVER seem to have a problem with these issues. As far as I can tell it is issues like these that distinguish the true professional escorts from the amateurs.