Aaron Mark review

[BgMstr4u]

Thanks to Callipygean for his review today of Aaron Mark. It is exactly what a review should be, IMHO. He is fair, points out the guy's good qualities, and is honest about what did not work. If Aaron Mark really is "the premier escort in Las Vegas", he will acknowledge his shortcomings, make some sort of apology and change his behavior. It really is not ok to show up to a good restaurant in jeans and a plain (tee?) shirt, and it is definitely not ok to cut out early from a multi hour (and presumably very pricey) appointment. I hope he has the sense to make some sort of restitution to this reviewer, who has obviously bent over backward in his favor. And I hope that he learns that manners and honest dealing count.

[Guest zipperzone]

>It really is not ok to

>show up to a good restaurant in jeans and a plain (tee?)

>shirt,

 

In defence of his attire - as he lives in Vegas, one would assume that he knows the town and it's eateries well enough to gage what would not be acceptable at the restaurant he suggested. Many of the trendy and most expensive restaurants in the country are perfectly OK with such casual attire.

 

As for jeans, it's possible to spend more $$$ for a pair of jeans these days than some guys spend on a three piece suit. And the plain shirt comment did not conjure up a picture of a tee. It could have been a plain white Armani costing hundreds or even a nice Brooks Bros button down.

 

Times have changed - it's 2007 and fashion is not like a 50 yr old might remember from his high school days. As GM used to say before they discontinued the car - "This is not your father's Oldsmobile"

[BgMstr4u]

Good points. Perhaps "fine" restaurants in Las Vegas don't care how their diners dress, and are happy to look like a Denny's at early breakfast. If cost alone is the index, some stratospherically priced jeans and shirts might qualify them for inclusion as appropriate. But....

 

We now live in a culture where some people, often young, do not feel the need to dress in what used to be considered appropriate ways. I have seen young people come to their grandparent's funeral in "nice" jeans and a "plain" shirt, and must confess to some shock at that sight. They had no consciousness, none, that a line might have been crossed. People like this need help.

 

In this case, the escort needs to be more sensitive to his role as a facilitator of someone else's enjoyment. His job is to please his client, not himself. His appearance and behavior in public are a big part of that job. He should take the trouble to match his appearance to his client's expectations. Callipygean takes responsibility for not communicating this, which is gentlemanly. But the escort's job is to help his client have a good time, and should include an awareness of his role as the client's guest at a good restaurant. What to wear? should be a major professional concern. He clearly did not consider his client's comfort to be more important than his own, which is a piece with selfishly cutting their time short after sex. A simple question during the setup conversations would suffice: "How would you like me to dress?"

[+ newatthis]

Much more useful to me than the discussion of dress was the reviewer's description of what happened (or didn't happen) at the end of the session.

[SoCal]

I got a little self chuckle when reading about the clothing. For better or for worse, Las Vegas has gone *extremely* casual (to its detriment so has most of Los Angeles). I'm in the reviewer's age group, and I do miss dressing up for dinner - and still will on occassion when I want to!

 

However, in Las Vegas beautiful surroundings, high menu prices, glamorous food, stellar service, "best in the hotel" etc. do not equate to dressing up anymore. It used to bother me greatly, but "times have changed".

 

The other comments in this thread re: the jeans/shirt could have been a very nice high priced ensemble are valid as well - he might have looked spectacular!

 

Leaving after 3 hours into a 4 hour commitment does need some explaining though! :-)

[doctordoctor]

the review was very fair and thorough, but the writer was little verbose and pretentious...nothing personal, but he seems a little stuffy...I may be wrong.....

 

there may have been some communication problems resulting in the apparent early departure/finish....the reviewer did say communication is important and it is my main concern when setting up a meeting....

 

as for the clothing, I'm sure Aaron knew what would work in his own hometown...the reviewer was probably hoping Aaron would dress to impress (himself and others)...

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I've heard nothing but great things about AM (from both clients and other escorts), so this response is moreso regarding the 'casual' dress expectations in current-day Las Vegas dining.

 

I disagree completely that going casual is acceptable at some of the higher-end dining places. Vegas has MORE than it's fair share of excellent 4-5 star tables that require more than flip-flops, Diesel jeans and a tight tee to keep a reservation. For example:

 

Le Cirque @ Bellagio.

 

Joel Robuchon @ the Mansion (MGM)

 

Daniel Boulud @ Wynn

 

Bartolotta @ Wynn

 

All of these spots at least require slacks and a dress shirt, with their preference being a jacket. Las Vegas may be the ultimate stomping ground for middle-America, but that doesn't mean that the city dumbs itself down for those wanting a higher-end experience.

 

Sure, you can get a $3.99 steak and eggs combo from The Flamingo anytime after 11pm, but don't mistake Vegas for the discount-haven that it used to be. The city has changed.

 

Added, when i'm eating at a place that's $100 or more a head, i don't want to see people sitting around me in fanny-packs, ripped jeans, running shoes or baseball caps. I don't care how much they paid for them. It's still tacky.

 

 

BN

 

 

 

PS: This message is being written from a room at The Wynn. Coincidence? I think not

[Juan Vancouver]

Devil's advocate.

 

>the writer was a

>little verbose and pretentious...nothing personal, but he

>seems a little stuffy...I may be wrong.....

 

Hey man,

 

I have to jump into this because fairness is important. (My excuse is that I am a libra, but maybe I am just a little prissy about that.) I have had the chance to meet the reviewer a few times, and there's absolutely nothing pretentious about him. He is the sweetest, kindest, most polite gentleman that I have met in many years. With a huge smile he opens the door for you, he waits for you to start eating, he treats you with the utmost consideration and politeness, he has an amazing vocabulary and can keep your interest for hours with his fascinating conversation, while he constantly keeps asking about you and making you the centre of the whole world.

 

Pretentiousness and stufyness create a boundary, they are there to make you feel less, inferior, uncomfortable.

 

Good manners and a gentlemanlike attitude like his, only make you feel more comfortable, happier, as if you, yourself were finer somehow. There is a huge difference between those two. (Also, people often confuse an articulate speech with pretension.)

 

My take about the length of the review is that , absolutely mortified for having to share something less than stellar, he wanted to be lavishly generous about the good side of the session.

 

Every single time that I have met him, he is perfectly clear in his needs, expectations and preferences, and he is careful enough to repeat them every time, as if that was the first time we met.

 

I too, have heard only good things about Aaron Mark from clients we have in common, so this is not intended to take anyone's side. I just happen to have first-hand experience with the reviewer and wanted to make it very clear that he is in not pretentious or stuffy in any ways.

 

Many might think that -of course- being an escort it is my duty to defend my customer and save my bussines. However, a few of my regular customers have been here in the middle of a harsh discussion, and this is the first time that I speak on one's favour, because I really think that assumption is asbolutely wrong.

 

Hope this puts things in perspective.

[Guest alanm]

>the review was very fair and thorough, but the writer was

>little verbose and pretentious...nothing personal, but he

>seems a little stuffy...I may be wrong.....

 

While there is no excuse to bail from a four-hour appointment an hour early (with full payment), it was a major effort for me to read the loooong review. The endless discussion about Aaron's clothes turned me off, especially since clothes were not discussed before the appointment.

 

However, that does not excuse Aaron for leaving an hour early with the full $800 payment. Escorts are paid a lot of money to spend time with people whom they do not like (yes, even if they are a little stuffy and verbose).

 

I certainly do not consider this a model review, not even close.

[+ Charlie]

I can't remember a clearer, more fairminded or more honest review. It makes me want to meet both escort and client (especially after Juan's commendation).

[Guest zipperzone]

>Added, when i'm eating at a place that's $100 or more a head,

>i don't want to see people sitting around me in fanny-packs,

>ripped jeans, running shoes or baseball caps. I don't care

>how much they paid for them. It's still tacky.

 

Ben - I think this comment is unfair. There is NOTHING in the review to suggest that he wore a fanny-pack, that the jeans were ripped, that he wore running shoes or a baseball cap. These are all of your invention. And as you probably know damn well that he was not dressed like that - shame on you for implying such was the case.

 

>PS: This message is being written from a room at The Wynn.

>Coincidence? I think not

 

Now what does this PS mean? Why is it not a coincidence? I don't see how it relates to the matter under discussion, unless you think that if we all know you are staying in The Wynn, we will assume your opinion to be above question.

[Guest zipperzone]

>I got a little self chuckle when reading about the clothing.

>For better or for worse, Las Vegas has gone *extremely* casual

>(to its detriment so has most of Los Angeles). I'm in the

>reviewer's age group, and I do miss dressing up for dinner -

>and still will on occassion when I want to!

 

I too like to dress properly for the occasion and think there is nothing sexier that a good looking stud in a nice navy blue suit, crisp white shirt and great tie. But it's a different world today and we might as well get used to it.

 

>The other comments in this thread re: the jeans/shirt could

>have been a very nice high priced ensemble are valid as well -

>he might have looked spectacular!

 

I bet he did!!!

 

So much better than those tourists from (dare I name a city) in their double-knit leisure suits and polyester Hawaiian sports shirts.

>

>Leaving after 3 hours into a 4 hour commitment does need some

>explaining though! :-)

 

Now that was just plain tacky.

[Guest PWIT]

RE: Devil's advocate.

 

>He is the sweetest, kindest, most

>polite gentleman that I have met in many years.

 

You haven't met me! :+ yet!

[Louis]

RE: Devil's advocate.

 

He definately has the looks. I wish more people would read that review, and maybe they will learn how to write a good review. So if I was to hire Aaron, I would want to cover a few bases first, and make sure all the issues are covered.

I would still be interested in hiring him.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

My comments about fanny-packs, etc weren't directed at or about AM. As i said in the very first sentence of my initial reply, i've heard nothing but great things of him and think he's the cat's pajamas. End of story.

 

My comment was directed to all of the complete idiots who think that just because they can afford it also means that they can dress like garbage in upper-establishment. Unfortunately loads of expendable money still can't buy tact.

 

That's Vegas in general: A whole lot of money. A little amount of class.

 

 

BN

[Guest zipperzone]

>My comment was directed to all of the complete idiots who

>think that just because they can afford it also means that

>they can dress like garbage in upper-establishment.

>Unfortunately loads of expendable money still can't buy tact.

 

But Ben.... you're missing the point. Times are changing and I personally don't see relaxed dress code changing anytime soon - like as in never?

 

If the restaurants are prepared to allow "casual" people will continue to be more relaxed about their appearance.

 

I personally would prefer to see someone dressed in fashionable casual clothes looking comfortable in them than see someone who you know damn well hardly ever wears a suit and keeps one cheap, ill-fitting one in his closet just so he can look like he belongs when he goes to places where he thinks it is appropriate to "dress up"

 

The most sophisticated dining rooms in the country (especially in the western states) accept almost any dress code (not including shorts and flip-flops) so long as it is clean and presentable. Those that don't are pretentious and usually populated with dinosaurs.

 

I feel that the way people conduct themselves, their table manners and their general deportment are more important than what they are wearing.

[+ newatthis]

>it was a major effort for

>me to read the loooong review. The endless discussion about

>Aaron's clothes turned me off....

 

What's important is that the reviewer told us about his expectations and his experience in enough detail to allow us to form our own judgments about whether we'd want to hire AM, and if we did, what we might want to discuss with him beforehand.

 

Sure, some of those details were not important to me personally -- and I just skimmed through them. But I can't fault the reviewer for including them; they could be central for someone else.

 

There's been a lot of bitching and moaning here in the MC about short reviews that are useless. As soon as we get full detail from someone, the sniping starts from the other direction. Sheeeeesh......

[Okliehomo]

RE: Devil's advocate.

 

OK, since apparently, I am out of the running for kindest, most polite etc....can I, at least, win Most Sarcastic???

 

Just asking...and Juan, no way, you are prissy. Not in leather pants!!

 

Okie

[Lookin]

< I feel that the way people conduct themselves, their table manners and their general deportment are more important than what they are wearing. >

 

Amen.

[Juan Vancouver]

RE: Devil's advocate.

 

>OK, since apparently, I am out of the running for kindest,

>most polite etc....can I, at least, win Most Sarcastic???

 

To use the same words once uttered by a great mind, when talking about you:

 

"You are the quirkiest" }(

 

Fuck, I know this is totally unrelated, but remebering one thing takes me to the other, and...

 

I am sprouting a big boner! x( Sweet memories... my body is feeling "peckish".

 

Receive a tight hug and my darkest, most objectionably lustful wishes, you, sexy thing.

[Guest PWIT]

>I feel that the way people conduct themselves, their table

>manners and their general deportment are more important than

>what they are wearing.

 

I realize I am venturing away from the restaurant attire.....but disagree about the clothing issue. There are certain times that dressing up is appropriate. Anyone remember the time in DC when Clinton was in office and some representatives from the DC pride where invited to the white house? One of the guys went in risque leather dress. Was totally inappropriate. If invited to go to the white house, you dress appropriately. Maybe some of you with better memories than I can better recall the event.

[Luv2play]

I agree that dressing up to the occasion is important. I would not want an escort that I had invited to a fancy restaurant to appear dressed in jeans, no matter how designer inspired. Of course, the client perhaps should have mentioned this but he may have assumed that the escort would know this since he was a local.

 

That being said, I am of two minds when it comes to the Pride representative who wore "risque" leathers to the White House (it's not the white house). I am assuming he wasn't invited to a dinner but just for a meeting. I believe when Africans or other nationalities appear at the White House, they feel free to wear their national garb and not dress up in suits and ties as their diplomats would normally do. So I don't see anything wrong with a gay leather queen appearing for a meeting dressed as he normally would. Just my opinion. :+

[Guest PWIT]

>So I don't see anything

>wrong with a gay leather queen appearing for a meeting dressed

>as he normally would. Just my opinion. :+

 

Maybe you are right. I didn't consider that may be his dressed up normal business attire. But if my memory serves me correctly (and it often fails me), that wasn't his normal business attire. Just because you wore leather or speedo or even casual jeans and tee to the parade, doesn't mean that is what you wear to the White House. But there is room for different opinions - even if mine is the right one! LOL...JK

 

PWIT

[Louis]

I also know one thing, at least here in Canada the board rooms of large companies have become very casual, and its probably the same in the US. Also does one have to conform? I would think that a lot of heads were turning when Aaron was eating with you, and I have no doubt that people were talking about the cloths he was wearing... other than to say, "look at that hot guy over there, the one wearing jeans)....:-)..... I'd be more than happy if he sat beside me with no cloths on....:-)

[Guest zipperzone]

>>I feel that the way people conduct themselves, their table

>>manners and their general deportment are more important than

>>what they are wearing.

>

>I realize I am venturing away from the restaurant

>attire.....but disagree about the clothing issue. There are

>certain times that dressing up is appropriate. Anyone

>remember the time in DC when Clinton was in office and some

>representatives from the DC pride where invited to the white

>house? One of the guys went in risque leather dress. Was

>totally inappropriate. If invited to go to the white house,

>you dress appropriately.

 

I totally agree with you but I think you are comparing apples to oranges here.

 

Being asked to the WH as a guest is totally different than choosing to go to a restaurant where you are a customer and YOU (or your host)are paying the bill. And there is also a huge differance between risque leather dress and the type of casual outfit we have been discussing here.