Ken Ryker - David Forest

[Doe Be Doe]

So, I'll be in Atlanta in a few weeks. I note that Ken Ryker lives there and that he is available through David Forest's forestmen.com for an "introduction." Anyone have any experience with Ken? Anyone have any experience with Mr. Forest?

[jeddinger]

Never used them, but did see on their website where they also provide an introduction to Julian, a very popular str8 porn star who I believe has done a gay or bi porn or two under a different name. I was very intrigued by the whole possibility of meeting him.

 

I would love to know how many, if any, of the introductions actually resulted in a face to face meeting, or more. My understanding is they provide the contact information and the two of you take it from there. I suspect if you met Ken and agreed to some "arrangement" it would be rather expensive i.e $500/hr+.

 

There have been previous threads on this topic posted here.

[+ deej]

For starters, David Forest has served time in Federal prison for pandering and recently went through a second trial for the same thing (he was not convicted).

 

Record keeping requirements say that he has to keep enough record of his contact with you to justify any charges made to your credit card. Do you want those on file the next time he's investigated?

 

He was not convicted the 2nd time because he was found to be conducting a legitimate introduction service. (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) You get an introduction and no more.

 

His rate structure:

 

$395 - 2 months

$695 - 6 months

$1195 - Full Year

 

So for $395, you can get introduced to Ken Ryker. If he's available, and he may not be after you've ponied up the fee.

 

That might be a phone number, or an email address. Anything after that is up to you and the guy you're introduced to, and presumably an additional charge directly to the guy if you actually do meet.

 

Ryker has been a bit yesterday's news for several years. He hasn't done a video in some time. I have no idea how he's aging. Also, the times I met him he struck me as painfully (almost cripplingly) bashful. (It was fucking adorable!) I don't know what he would be like in a 1-on-1 but it might be an issue.

 

So if you've got the $400 to pop for an introduction only to find out what the real fee is (if he's even available) go for it.

 

I suspect the $400 could buy a whole lotta fun elsewhere.

 

But that's just me.

[Doe Be Doe]

Deej,

 

Thanks for the info. It would be different, I suppose, if Ryker were on rentboy.

 

>For starters, David Forest has served time in Federal prison

>for pandering and recently went through a second trial for the

>same thing (he was not convicted).

>

>Record keeping requirements say that he has to keep enough

>record of his contact with you to justify any charges made to

>your credit card. Do you want those on file the next time he's

>investigated?

>

>He was not convicted the 2nd time because he was found to be

>conducting a legitimate introduction service. (wink, wink,

>nudge, nudge) You get an introduction and no more.

>

>His rate structure:

>

>$395 - 2 months

>$695 - 6 months

>$1195 - Full Year

>

>So for $395, you can get introduced to Ken Ryker. If he's

>available, and he may not be after you've ponied up the fee.

>

>That might be a phone number, or an email address. Anything

>after that is up to you and the guy you're introduced to, and

>presumably an additional charge directly to the guy if you

>actually do meet.

>

>Ryker has been a bit yesterday's news for several years. He

>hasn't done a video in some time. I have no idea how he's

>aging. Also, the times I met him he struck me as painfully

>(almost cripplingly) bashful. (It was fucking adorable!) I

>don't know what he would be like in a 1-on-1 but it might be

>an issue.

>

>So if you've got the $400 to pop for an introduction only to

>find out what the real fee is (if he's even available) go for

>it.

>

>I suspect the $400 could buy a whole lotta fun elsewhere.

>

>But that's just me.

[JasonK]

Interesting this topic Surfaced! deej has this guy right on. I just came across David Forest's business advertised on rentboy, & noticed the same model Julian. When I asked David Forest about Julian, he said that all the so-called stars info was provided but that Julian's was not one of the stars on the list available.

 

I asked why he would be advertising a model that was not availalble, his response, and I quote: "How dare you question my business practices?" and abruptly hung-up.

 

Personally, I felt his rate structure for providing emails an phone numbers was a scam, as well as his littel advertisement on rentboys.;

 

Personally, I felt sorry for the guy-- Working this business from my end (2yrs Jan 11th) things are just not run that way! fyi, if you search the name Julianxxx he has a website and email provided free of charge.... Hope this gives additional insight.

[Chuck50]

Sorry that more people don't follow this board or are not aware there is a search of the Archives. I would bet that David Forest has way to many hits while maybe not the most but negatively talked about. But what many would say is "Bad JU JU" Hugs Chuck

[seattlebottom]

I remember reading that during one of the earlier raids into Forest's business, the names and credit card numbers of some very famous people were found in his possession. Amongst those, as reported at the the time, was Tony Danza. If anything was learned from the Heidi Fleiss debacle it's this : DON'T LEAVE A PAPER TRAIL

[+ Lucky]

With all of the new posters coming on board, there will be some who might fall into the same traps that others learned to avoid. So we can expect some questions to be repeated, but it is a good reminder of how the infomation and experience in the porn world that deej and others here have can be very helpful to all.

[JasonK]

Because one dosen't post on a regular baises, its automatic that he's new to the boards?

 

I knew in La that there was some pretty intense buzz on Forest-- Having met models that personally worked for "David Forest." However, I wouldn't have been to quick to judge until I had pesonally seen or experiended the Forest effect myself!