Disappointing experiences

[pierrot]

Most escorting experiences I've had have been very good. I stick to guys with good reviews and who've been around for a while, and the vast majority have been at least pretty good, many fantastic.

HOWEVER, recently I had the shocking experience of hiring an escort who has many, many good reviews here -- but arrived looking absolutely nothing like his pix or the descriptions in his profile. He was unable to perform, but also did not charge me. So at least in that he was honest.

But I was shocked at the difference between his huge number of reviews that described him physically very different from what he is. Also he posts pix that must be at least 10 years old.

I even wonder if it was the same guy, or if the escort sent an older friend instead.

Having had so much faith in this site, it was a reminder that even the best reviewed escorts can send in all the fake reviews they want.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

[Guest Adono]

> ....

>HOWEVER, recently I had the shocking experience of hiring an

>escort who has many, many good reviews here -- but arrived

>looking absolutely nothing like his pix or the descriptions in

>his profile. He was unable to perform, but also did not charge

>me. So at least in that he was honest. .....

 

Hearing about an experience like that I for one would like to know his name. Is there a reason not to give it so we don't have a similar disappointment?

[+ Lucky]

It seems to be a common experience as I have had several guys tell me about hiring an escort who was well-reviewed here only to be disappointed with their experience. Goes to show that we all have different tastes.

 

I once went to Ron Pearson's house in San Francisco. (He was a big name porn star at the time.) The guy who answered the door as "Ron" was very hot and fantastic in bed. But the real "Ron" came home as I was leaving and then I recognized him as the one I thought I had hired. But I wasn't disappointed!

[IceFireWizard]

If you have many disappointing experiences with several well-reviewed escorts the reason maybe you ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[+ deej]

You've submitted a review, I hope.

 

Truth will always win in the review process. It may take time, but truth will always win. (Take a look at Daddy's "News" page for Oct. 17 for what happens when a fishy situation gets caught.) But truth only surfaces through reviews.

 

Truth cannot surface if no review is submitted. You are aiding in the deception if you do not post a review.

 

But remember the mantra: honest in our judgements and truthful in our reporting. That means be honest with YOURSELF as much as with others.

 

If the guy just wasn't your cuppa, you should include that in the review. If the guy blatantly misrepresented himself, feel free to say so IF YOU'RE WILLING TO STAND BY WHAT YOU SAY.

 

If you've submitted a review, THANK YOU! If not, well, it's time! ;-)

[whipped guy]

I think we all have had similar experiences. You know the guy who posts 10 year old pictures with a “six pack” when in reality his gut has developed into a “beer belly”. The guy who says he’s 35 and is well over forty. The guy who claims he is experienced in this, that, or whatever, and in reality has no clue… etc.etc.etc. There is quite a bit of “deception” out there.

 

In each case where I have been disappointed I have not submitted a review as I always seemed to put a portion of the blame on myself… my frame of mind, my not properly “interpreting” what the guy told me or what was posted on his website, expectations that were too high on my part, etc. However, in each case in retrospect I realized I should have most definitely posted a review and placed the disappointing experience in its proper context for others to evaluate much as Deej recommends above. In fact, if I had acted with a proper sense of duty I might have prevented the next guy from unnecessarily wasting some hard earned cash. I have subsequently made note of several unfortunate experiences in this forum, but reviews should have been submitted due to their greater exposure to the public at large. Indeed, if you don’t do so you are indeed “aiding in the deception”.

[JT Brooklyn]

Mr Whip...Has brought up a very good point. "Aiding in the Deception"

 

Although there have been a few times, where the Review obviously was just mean spirited, and submitted by a disgruntled "Customer" to make the Working Guy just look bad period!

 

Markets such as the NYC-LA-Miami are Full of Deceptive Working Guys.

Sometimes the Deception is slight- other times MAJOR!

 

So Reporting "True Deception" is very Helpful to those who are thinking of Hooking up with a Guy. There are those "Fan Club Member's" who also can Aid in the Deception AND MYTH... with their relentless, "Oh your so wonderful Blah-Blah... of course just looking for a Discount! LOL :P

[whipped guy]

Re: There are those "Fan Club Member's" who also can Aid in the Deception AND MYTH... with their relentless, "Oh your so wonderful Blah-Blah... of course just looking for a Discount!

 

Yes JT, there are fans and it is sometimes obvious who those fan club members are and which escorts foster the fan club approach...

 

All the reviews I have submitted to date were all were written "from the heart" in appreciation for a good time. Yes, several guys have specifically asked me to write reviews for them knowing that I was simply a "satisfied customer"... but I have never asked for or expected to get any "discount"... at the most I would expect to be "remembered"... but then again others I'm sure might expect to be rewarded for their efforts... and possibly be complicit in some sort of deception.

[+ Charlie]

I can honestly say that every one of the escorts I have hired based on positive reviews on this site has fit his own and the reviewer's physical description, and usually has done pretty much what his ad and the review said he would do. That doesn't mean that all of the experiences were satisfying, because each occasion is different, and each of us has different subjective reactions to objective realities. In your case, however, it sounds like the objective realities were very different from what you expected, and I hope you will write a review about them, but be prepared for denials from the escort and possible abuse here from the escort and his acolytes, because there is no impartial fact-finder to whom the issue can be referred.

[JT Brooklyn]

Charlie...Indubidably..We certainly do have the ACOLYTE Factor.

 

But most of us, have come to know the Basic M/O of said ACOLYTE'S and their Pedestal Propping.

 

Apparently some of the "Older" Pedestal's are really tipping over lately! Keeping up with the Young'uns can't be easy! LOL :P

[Guest Havan_IronOak]

>(Take a look at Daddy's "News" page

>for Oct. 17 for what happens when a fishy situation gets

>caught.) But truth only surfaces through reviews.

>

 

Course that'd be easier if there were an index of some sort but in the mean time here's a link.

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/news.php?page=13&total=59

[Guest scortlovr]

I have not posted many reviews (6 or 7 and quite some time ago). My reasonning is: I try to be objective and if I can honestly say that the experience was great or horrible primarily thanks to or because of the escort, then I post a review. But I find that many times my occasional disappointment is due to something quite elusive, which really has nothing to do with the escort, but with my state of mind, or expectation or whatever. Things like looks, sexiness and chemistry are very difficult to quantify since everyone's criteria are different. There are a couple of escorts I can think of that I have hired based on reviews on this site and I went home thinking - what the hell was so hot about this guy? - Again, I'd post a review if I really felt confident that the escort had everything to do with the way I felt about the experience. But the truth is (in one particular case)the escort did everything the reviews said he did, yet I was simply not attracted to him. So I figured, why hurt someone's reputation because I just had a different image in my mind, or hoped for better chemistry or whatever the hell was going through my head - after all that's where it's all at, isn't it? In the head?

[Guest backbaygayguy]

>but be prepared for denials from the escort and possible

>abuse here from the escort and his acolytes, because there is

>no impartial fact-finder to whom the issue can be referred.

 

I have used this site for the last several years and have relied heavily on the reviews -- I haven't hired anyone who is not reviewed. In the forums, I've gotten good advice when I've asked about a specific guy who has mixed reviews or few reviews (and I've also replied to others in the forums).

 

Almost all my experiences have been great. I've written several positive reviews when I thought the guy was extraordinary. Twice, the guy was as advertised but the chemistry wasn't great -- I still had a good time, but not worth a review, just one of those things. Another time, I thought the guy was hot (better than his pictures) but he was a little reserved and having trouble keeping an erection -- after about 20 minutes he said he didn't feel he could do his best and did not want to continue and would not charge me. I admired his profesionalism (and paid him anyway for the time spent because I felt he deserved it) -- and wish somehow I could have done a review to point out how professional he was.

 

I've had only two disappointing experiences that I feel were not my fault. One was with a guy who misrepresented part of the appointment, and was a bit scattered. We worked out our differences and I had a fairly good time. Shortly after the escort retired so I did not review.

 

The second experience was with a guy who has dozens of great reviews (not one negative one) -- but who did not match his pictures and was lackluster in performance with me. I mentioned this in a forum and had several exchanges with the escort himself and many of his fans, and only one customer also said he had negative experience during this same time frame. The exchange were civilized (no flames). During the exchanges, I had six private e-mails from others who had hired this same guy during the same time frame -- and had identical experienes (not in shape, lackluster performance). These guys wanted me to write a negative review -- but they would not comment publicly because they were afraid of abuse from the fan base. In fact, two of them said they would never contribute publicly to a forum because of being flamed.

 

Another time, I mentioned a well-known escort (dozens of reviews) who hadn't returned e-mails or phone calls over several months trying to set up an appointment. His fans told me I should be patient, he was worth waiting for, he must be busy but I should keep trying, etc. I found the replies humorous -- as the customer I shouldn't be too demanding, like trying to set up an appointment!

 

In reply to deej, I agree about "honest in our judgements and truthful in our reporting" -- but I think most guys refrain from negative reviews when the escort is clearly at fault because of the response of fans/acolytes, and that sometimes the escort's reply to the review leaves you in a "he said, he said" situation. Acolytes seem unwilling to let you have a negative experience with their special guy -- as if somehow my negative experience invalidates all their "best-ever" positive experiences.

 

I haven't done reviews recently because I haven't tried new guys -- and the guys I repeat with aren't interested in more reviews so I haven't sent in review #46 when I have nothing new to say.

[jawjateck]

I have used this site and its predecessor for 6 1/2 years. While I consider all reviews when hiring, most of them are not credible to me because I have no confidence in the reviewer. Over the years, I have come to appreciate and trust the reporting of a core group, KY, epi, auggie, ok guy, silver dollar, charlie, scorpio, lovesyng, blue suicide, Houston Bon, peneampio, hotmale, just to name a few (please don't be insulted if I omitted you). These guys have never led me astray on a hiring decision.

 

More than looking at reviews, you need to identify the most credible reviewers and listen to their commentary.

[Louis]

That's the whole thing in a nutshell. Not only look at the review but the reviewer. From what I can gather there are bogus negative reviews for escorts too, because someone wants to find some business, and they feel a bit of negative campaigning may help.

I have had a few dissapointing experiences....and I would not say they were my fault because the escorts who have provided me with good service all told me they had a great time. The ones who did not provide the best service, did not post accurate pictures of themselves, and did not do what they had told me they would do. Fortunately that only happend a few times. It is true however that there was an escort who used a picture that was probably taken two or three years before I met him, and I was dissapointed in that regard, but we still had a great time, I just didn't go back to him.

I also hope to resolve the issues I had in Winnipeg in September this weekend. I recieved an interesting three way phone call from the agency and the escort who was supposed to see me, rather than the rip off artist they sent.

Louis

[+ deej]

>In reply to deej, I agree about "honest in our judgements

>and truthful in our reporting" -- but I think most guys

>refrain from negative reviews when the escort is clearly at

>fault because of the response of fans/acolytes, and that

>sometimes the escort's reply to the review leaves you in a

>"he said, he said" situation.

 

Been there. Done that. Negative reviews are FAR more difficult to write than positive reviews, for sure. But as long as you're fair and balanced, honest with yourself and your readers, and keep it to "this happened" rather than name-calling and bashing there's nothing for the acolytes to complain about. They will anyway ;-), but that says more about them than about the reviewer.

 

>Acolytes seem unwilling to let you have a negative

>experience with their special guy -- as if somehow my

>negative experience invalidates all their "best-ever"

>positive experiences.

 

So how many people have mediocre experiences? We don't know if the reviews aren't posted. As I said, you're part of the cloud of uncertainty if you opt out.

 

>I haven't done reviews recently because I haven't tried new

>guys -- and the guys I repeat with aren't interested in more

>reviews so I haven't sent in review #46 when I have nothing

>new to say.

 

I've done this too. Being #47 to say "me too" doesn't seem to be useful, but with a caveat. If #46 was a year ago, a "me too" review can show that the guy is still working and still making clients happy so I'll go ahead.

 

How many times have we seen inquiries here because a guy hasn't been reviewed in the last 2 years? If we all collectively decide that being #47 is of no value just because of the tonnage, eventually that guy's reviews will go stale and cease to have value.

[augustman]

Deej I am very guilty of this infraction. I have had a fair amount of mediocre experiences. I just do not know how to write one like it. In all the cases the guy communicated, he showed up on time, but here is where things go astray. For whatever reason there was no connection. He did his job, but that is how it came off and personally that does not work for me. I am left wanting, I do not know what went wrong. Also I am not one to call the escort on the spot on it. A lot of guys would say "Geez if I said something I would have corrected it". I will say I have one that I have been going back and forth on, nice young man but damn interaction capability of a dead fish.

 

That said I have had several cases where a very well reviewed escorts and I got together. The experiences were less than satisfying. One I did mention in a thread discussing him and there was so much lavish praise coming his way I debated whether I should say something. I did and I had one other person say the same thing and I was told in no uncertain terms that it must have been my fault because that can not happen. After that I said not again. Then earlier this year I had someone who my goodness you thought was a god, not for me, a person wrote a negative review and damn if that guy did not get criticized in the forum by long time reviewers who said the writer obviously must have been at fault. The reviewer in my opinion was 100% dead on.

 

I will say one of the other less than stellar experience I had, I contacted the escort after a long time we discussed it and we met and I had one of the best experiences of my life and that is how I wrote the review. So there are times when things are correctable and rather than be rash and write a negative review, maybe things could be worked out.

 

Finally I see my name mentioned earlier as being a credible reviewer. I have also heard this from a couple working guys and a couple guys on line. That is nice but the idea that a not great review by me could hurt someone’s business does give me pause. I have never dealt with a liar or false pretenses. So then things are based upon opinion and that can will be different for each person.

[uwsman2]

I've submitted lots of reviews over the years of using this site (under a different name for what I use to post in the message center) and my experience has been that when I tried to post an honest but less than glowing review, the escort was always allowed to post a review contradicting me. That hasn't deterred me from posting negatives reviews of they are warranted. But like another person in this conversation, I haven't reviewed as much lately because I have usually hired folks who are well reviewed on the site and don't feel a need to post the 45th review when mine would just echo the others. (The exception to that would be for somebody who has lots of reviews but maybe hasn't been reviewed lately, so a new review would reinforce that he is still in the same shape and/or providing the same good services mentioned in the older reviews. After all, time passes and older reviews with recent updates may not be so useful.)