Escort's Request for Client photo

[MHWESTPB]

A cute twink in Ft. Lauderdale using the stage name "Aaron Armstrong" is currently running ads on ExecutiveMaleEscorts and Male Treasures. On thoses ads he posts some nice nude photos that would compel a Viagra addict to discard this month's supply of pecker juice. I wrote(he posts no phone number) and he promptly and politely replied. He did not provide a contact phone on his reply but he did request that before discussions proceed any further, that I forward to him a photo of myself.

Aaron is a local escort(for me), so I am hesitant to comply with his request. In the past, if an escort was coming from out of town I could understand his curiosity in knowing beforehand if he was going to be stuck with an old troll(I'm still a relatively young troll)for 48 hours.But if he only has to drive 15 minutes from home is it necessary to screen the client beforehand. Or is there also a safety concern for the escort? He points out that he is a professional and will delete the photo after our meeting. Anyways, I would be interested in the opinions of others...this is an unreviewed escortto my knowledge.

[Txpaytoplay]

Sounds like the escort is lacking in professionalism; I would move on. I don't care how good looking he is.

[LovesYng]

>Sounds like the escort is lacking in professionalism; I would

>move on. I don't care how good looking he is.

 

Right on Txpay on what you say, just move on

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Guest skywalker]

To those that have responded to this thread thus far, if the date was to be for a few days as opposed to an hour or two, would that change your viewpoint?

 

I hire primarily for periods lasting a few days. A guy's face is very important to me, and I've never hired an individual without seeing his. I feel its only fair that he see mine also, beforehand, out of courtesy if for no other reason. Generally they don't solicit it.

 

I'm curious, do the escorts who post here require or expect to see a face pic before agreeing to meet a new client for long dates (a few days or more), or not?

[Guest Adono]

>....A guy's face

>is very important to me, and I've never hired an individual

>without seeing his. I feel its only fair that he see mine

>also, beforehand, out of courtesy if for no other reason.....

 

 

That would make sense to me for those escorts that pay you. For those whom you pay, I don't understand your definition of "fair."

[Juan Vancouver]

Hi Skywaker,

 

I am just answering here because you ask other escort's opinions...

And no. I have been to many long enagements without ever seen the client's face. For me it is more important to get a very clear idea of his personality based on the way he writes to me. It is always very telling to see how patient he is in his communication, how upfront, how kind and polite or how agressive and dry.

It would make no sense for me to have a picture, because it would not add anything at all.

 

However, when planning a long engagement most clients do send a face picture without me requesting it. That seems to be a common practice.

 

And I have to add that I agree with Anton; Not because someone say that they are going to erase the picture it means they will. If it means anything to you that nobody has your picture, then make sure that it is you who has absolute control upon it.

 

Just my two cents.

[Hamlet]

In 15 years of hiring escorts this has never happened to me. Very fishy. Certainly, escorts have a right to ask for your picture. And we, their potential customers, have a right to avoid such escorts. I would avoid them categorically.

[Epigonos]

I'll say this for the guy -- he has guts. I hire regularly and it would be a cold day in hell when I would send a potential hiree my photo. In fairness to the guys I plan to hire I do describe myself in some detail. The main reason for that is that, thought I'm in good physical shape, I am, about to be, 65. By stating my age, up front, the escort has a chance to decline the appointment. Interestingly enough this has never happened. Also I have NEVER been asked for a photo.

[Txpaytoplay]

>

> To those that have responded to this thread thus far, if the

>date was to be for a few days as opposed to an hour or two,

>would that change your viewpoint?

>

Hey Sky,

 

My own experience is I have not hired for weekends or vacations until I have met the escort for at least two hourly sessions to get to know them and see if the attraction and personality is there for a longer engagement. That's just me. For what it's worth.

[jawjateck]

I agree with Epigonos. I describe myself to the escort; if he requests my pic that would be my warning sign to move on. Only happened once before and it killed my interest. I figure if a guy doesn't want to meet a hot, passionate, masculine, goodlooking 30 something guy and get paid for it, I can do without him and find someone else to take my money...hehehe }(

[TJM]

Ditto! If an escort asks for a photo I take it as a red flag and the conversation goes no further. And it seems to be a more common practice, especially among some of the younger less experienced escorts. Recently I was looking in Ft. Lauderdale. I was in a chat room with a screen name and profile that pretty much stated what I was looking for. Three different escorts contacted me and after an initial hello they not only asked for a pic but wanted stats. I told them I don't send pics and that I always offer my stats if I think I'm interested in hiring someone....and at that point I wasn't interested. I felt like I was being interviewed for hiring, not vice versa. These guys have a lot to learn!

[Guest skywalker]

This is a very interesting thread to me.

 

The consensus from those who have contributed to this thread is that it is unprofessional of escorts to ask for client photos, and if a potential escort does so, it is a serious red flag, and would be the end of any interest the potential customer has for the escort. Several of you have stated that you will absolutely NEVER send your face pic to an escort.

 

I suspect the reason for this is discretion: you feel there would be some risk, some danger in doing so. Some of you feel it's "none of the escort's business" what you look like- after all, you're paying for his time, and your looks are essentially immaterial to the transaction.

 

As I've mentioned I hire primarily for several days at a time. An escort's face is especially important to me, at least as important as the rest of his body. There are some escorts who are unwilling to send out face pics, for discretionary reasons I'm sure.

 

I've said that I will send out my face pic to a potential companion. I value my privacy and discretion as do the rest of you, but I've never considered it a "risk" or "dangerous."

 

If I was in the escort's shoes, and was considering spending several days with someone I had never met before, I would appreciate knowing what he looked like, ahead of time. That's kind of how I look at it, and why I do what I do. Moreover I'm not at all embarrassed or self-conscious about my looks.

 

I would be very interested to hear additional opinions on this subject, both from escorts and clients.

 

I realize that quite a few of you would not hire someone for a prolonged date without having spent previous time with him, to ensure compatability, but that's a separate issue.

[+ deej]

It's not an automatic red flag for me when an escort requests a picture. A lot depends on context and wording.

 

If an escort requires a picture before agreeing to see me, yes that's a red flag.

 

But there are some "newbie" (I use that term loosely) escorts who pursue hooking up with a client much the same way they'd pursue a recreational hookup, and that generally starts with an exchange of pictures.

 

The picture, alone, isn't really the issue. The motive behind the request can be.

[Okliehomo]

This thread is very timely...I have just recently been asked by two different guys for me to send them a pic...one is very, very new to this and the other while well reviewed on this site has a policy of not travelling out of state without a face to face meeting beforehand...so, I sent him the pic and he agreed to come. Discretion really isn't am issue for me since I live 1000's of miles from everyone.

 

Have been getting alot of strange "conditions" to travel lately...just yesterday, an NYC escort asked for his own room in a name brand hotel, prepaid in his own name because he doesn't feel comfortable staying in the same room with "unfamiliar" clients...and he wanted 50% deposit and the rest upon arrival...I am running into that deposit thing alot lately..Who's not paying these boys?? Certainly not, me. I've paid even when I shouldn't have....

 

Also, for the first time, I am getting a helluva lot of just no response at all. It might be because I am dealing some with guys with no reviews??? It makes me want to stick with guys I have hired before like Kent Larson and Ty/Portland....but I always let myself get carried away with the excitement of hiring somebody new....

 

Back on topic, I don't have a problem with sending a pic...even though, sometimes, it makes me wonder who is paying who here??...but I guess for me, it depends on how badly I want to see them...but none of my really great, first class boys ever asked for one...

 

I guess, I have been burned MUCH more often by not seeing a face pic of them first than I have by sending them one....

 

In fact, I have a situation going on right now, that has all elements: pics, prepaid flight, penalty to change the flight once at the escort's request, a 50% deposit and a missed plane that he said he cancelled beforhand but the airline disagrees.....and an as yet unanswered email...so I am waiting to see how it plays out...

 

Okie

[Guest 8mile]

Maybe I am missing something here. What warning sign does an escort requesting a photograph prior to meeting raise?

 

I pay my country club 15k a year and yet I still had to be accepted as a member. Aren't there many businesses which require approval of the client before doing any transactions?

 

Are you guys scared the escort is going to turn you away?

 

And please don't talk about that discrete thing. You older guys are living outside your era. If anyone wanted to they could easily make it seem that you sent them a homoerotic self picture without even knowing who you are. In the same respect it is so easy to disprove a photograph EVEN if you did send it.

 

What it all breaks down to is clients not respecting escorts and not holding them to the same standards as they would themselves. The attitude of it's my money and if I pay you, you have to do what I say is getting REALLY REALLY REALLY old.

 

As Usual

Zachary

[VaHawk]

>Maybe I am missing something here. What warning sign does an

>escort requesting a photograph prior to meeting raise?

 

WARNING! PRIMA DONNA!! Waste of time and money, maybe????

 

>

>I pay my country club 15k a year and yet I still had to be

>accepted as a member. Aren't there many businesses which

>require approval of the client before doing any transactions?

>

 

In return, aren't most businesses required to serve all customers, and failure to do so, is grounds for legal action??? Not that escorting is a legitimate business in the U.S., but you're the one who insists on using a business analogy.

 

>Are you guys scared the escort is going to turn you away?

 

Who would be scared that some escort is going to reject them? Really, do you think escorts can't be found all over the internet and prostitutes on many street corners?

>

>And please don't talk about that discrete thing. You older

>guys are living outside your era. If anyone wanted to they

>could easily make it seem that you sent them a homoerotic self

>picture without even knowing who you are. In the same respect

>it is so easy to disprove a photograph EVEN if you did send

>it.

 

What is your point, here, again?? I bet a client could submit as many fake reviews on this site and others, as the escorts themselves submit, and do it much more effectively since their livelihood is not dependent on it.

>

>What it all breaks down to is clients not respecting escorts

>and not holding them to the same standards as they would

>themselves.

 

Aren't escorts the one selling the product, and not the other way around??? As such, aren't escorts the ones that should be accomodating and interested in making the "sale"? Why should anyone purchasing any product/service have to "beg" the seller to take his/her money???

 

Again with the respect bs! Are you channeling for someone else now?? Keeps coming up, but so far, it seems the disrespect/ripoffs/bsing is 10 to 1 the other way around!

 

The attitude of it's my money and if I pay you,

>you have to do what I say is getting REALLY REALLY REALLY

>old.

 

Kind of like some escorts who are way beyond the prime earning years, but demanding respect and fat bucks??

[Guest 8mile]

No it is not illegal for a business to refuse to serve all customers. Like I said I pay 15k a year for my country club and actually had to apply and get accepted before I had the opportunity to fork over the 15k. The club is the business provider, selling the product and I basically begged for the honor to be serviced. Hell, I'm still doing it trying to get into the Soho Club in New York and basically am on my knees trying to get the invite.

 

Credit card companies are the same no? In order to be approved the customer has to meet certain credit qualifications. If an escort requires a photograph to see if he can adequately provide his service to the pre-client (without cursing at me or calling me any names) please explain to me how this is different.

 

"The attitude of it's my money and if I pay you,

>you have to do what I say is getting REALLY REALLY REALLY

>old.

 

Kind of like some escorts who are way beyond the prime earning years, but demanding respect and fat bucks??"

 

I'm not sure how this fits in or how exactly the argument made disputes my point of my money, my way went out the door in the late 70s. Mind growing up a bit?

 

">Are you guys scared the escort is going to turn you away?

 

Who would be scared that some escort rejected them? Really, do you think escorts can't be found all over the internet and prostitutes on many street corners?"

 

If one comes to conclude that all 'prositutes' are the same why exactly would one venture to this site. The game remains not all escorts are created equally and thus I ask is the prospect of being rejected by an escort the reason photographs are kept at bay?

 

Prima Donna?! An escort who wants to know what the guy he is going to have sex with looks like and that makes him a Prima Donna? I am not seeing the sense in this and he's the conflict, should an escort be forced to sleep with anyone who offers to pay his rate or if he doesn't accept is he now a Prima Donna?

[lookin4hotties]

Asking for a client's pic, particularly on the

first email, really does not give me the best

impression. HOWEVER, has anyone been on

MySpace or Facebook lately? Most 18-23 year olds

have a huge chunk of their time and identity

wrapped up in their own and their friends pages

and showing/viewing someone's personal pics

are of central interest. Any 19 year old will

tell you how important he thinks online pics are.

Often an 18 or 19 y/o's entire online persona

is focused around whatever pics they post

of themselves on these pages. Today's 18 or

19 year old also has very little need or

understanding for the privacy that a 50 year

old might perceive as normal.

 

In addition to younger escorts, the amateur

escort will also ask for pics/stats. Even

worse, they have sometimes asked me for

one BEFORE giving me their pic.

 

Again, this phenomenon is not an automatic

red flag to me. It is simply a sign of

the escorts age or inexperience. There

are a few lesser-known sites with plenty

of inexperienced amateur/part-time escorts

where this will happen. That's the trade

off when dealing with younger or "lower

mileage" escorts with fewer social

graces or understanding of what clients

need with regard to maintaining their

privacy. Not always a "red flag" but more

of an annoyance, in my experience.

 

Just my two cents, guys.

 

Lookin4hotties :9

[TerryP]

>In return, aren't most businesses required to serve all

>customers, and failure to do so, is grounds for legal

>action???

 

I work for an insurance company. I can assure you that we refuse to serve many many customers every day. This does not result in grounds for legal action.

[Epigonos]

If I remember correctly the original post asked both clients and escorts how they felt about an escort requesting a photograph from a potential client. Most responders including myself have said no way. Now it seems we are being asked to defend that position. As I stated earlier in this thread, in my second email to an escort, I am considering engaging I provide a detailed descrpition of myself and frankly that is all the guy is going to get. If the information I provide isn't sufficient then the escort and I simply are NOT going to meet. Additionally I NEVER hire an escsort I don't already know for more than lunch/dinner and a couple of hours. Also in five years of hiring I have NEVER been asked for a photograph but then I ONLY hire escorts who have multiple outstanding reviews on this site.

By the way my refusal to even consider providing a photograph has absolutely nothing to do with concerns about privacy. I simply find the request rude and presumptuous.

[LeeOz]

Warning bells will ring for me too once an escort asks for a photo. We check this website because we want quality escorts who are professionals. A professional escort will be able to deal with any type of client, and provide a good service regardless of who the client is. If an escort asks for a picture, this indicates to me that he is screening his clients. He most likely can only perform if the client is his type. He must be a new escort, who fantasises that he can have sex with good looking guys and get paid for it at the same time.

But this is not the personals. This is a business transaction. He may turn out to be alright, but are you willing to risk your hard earned $200/$250 on him?

 

Also, how would you feel if you do send your pic, and you do not hear anything further from the escort? Are you willing to put yourself in that position? We have all been there and it is not a good feeling.

[boypayer]

An early reply to the original post was "Sounds like the escort is lacking in professionalism..." In my opinion "professionalism" has no meaning in the sex for pay business. I would suggest a few much older words: "Caveat emptor" and "caveat vendor"! This "profession" is truly a free and should ideally be an open market. I applaud those ideas. ;-) I also applaud the exercise of one's free speech right in this forum and the opportunity to take the risk and responsibility for one's own actions and purchases! What would be the punishment for "unprofessional" action? The obvious answer would be the failure of the vendor as dictated by the free market. What is the alternative? Would it be an oversight board such as the AMA for doctors, the ABA for lawyers, or (save us all!) the EPA as the saviour of spotted owls, potable water, and baby fur seals?