Escort Review History "abbreviated?"

[Guest ncm2169]

Okay, it's been a while since I've either lurked or posted here, but what's the deal? I just checked an escort's Reviews (he has 12), but only the most recent six display the whole Review. The first six only mention something like, "positive review by John Jones."

 

Frankly, that sucks, IMHO. I'd post this in Daddy's Place but no one reads that. x(

 

What's the story???

[+ deej]

Have you checked the news bits Daddy has been posting? I think he said something about this a while back.

 

In any case, he's the only person who can answer your questions. Write to daddy@male4malescorts.com.

 

(My opinion: he's screwed no matter what he does. If he leaves the old reviews up, people bitch because of all the old information. If he takes it down, people bitch because he took it down. There's no one-size-fits-all solution.)

[flguy]

I disagree completely DEEJ, I don't remember people complaining about old reviews as long as the person also had recent reviews. What people complained about was escorts with the only recent reviews being 2 and 3 years old, and contact information that never worked. I was one of the original people who complained about that. I am NOT happy with the older reviews being deslisted because when I am looking for a new escort, ALL the reviews are relevent to give me a feeling for what the person is like. I think this new practice is a disservice to the clients. Remove, de-list escorts with no current reviews that are most likely out of the biz, but do NOT screw with reviews that are current, including those back to the beginning of the escorts reviewed career.

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO..Flguy does make sense. Of course the real Long Review Historys, like what 20 or more.. No one is going to go back to the very Beginning of these..The Age is Different, Possibly the Info itself has changed, Contacts..YaDa-YaDa..

These Guys now are well known by the Reader's of M4M and don't need a long Research! :+

[+ deej]

You're talking to the wrong guy, and doing it in the wrong place. <shrug>

[Guest ncm2169]

I take it the new management here is incapable of accommodating the viewing public. Not a pretty picture, I assure you. Are you all just into enforcing Posting Rules, or accommodating the viewing/contributing public? I think the answer is pretty obvious. Too bad, IMHO. Another reason not to visit here much any more. x(

[+ ArVaGuy]

I visit this site for one reason - the reviews. I read the message center and post on a very infequent basis usually looking for a suggestion or on issues like this one that piques my interest. I guess I could say I have lurked on the MC since I discovered this site six months after it was founded.

 

I was surprised to learn just the other day that older reviews were being "abbreviated" when I went back to check on one of the guys I posted a review for back in 2001. If this is supposed to be an escort review site then in MHO all the reivews have to remain no matter how old they may be, even if the guy has 50+ all the way back to 2000.

 

Not sure if its a touch of obsessive compulsive behavior but I read all the reivews of any escort I am considering. In fact, I pay really close attention to the earliest ones and the most recent ones because often times I have noted a change in how these guys perform over time. Abbreviated reviews are not conducive to this and are an annoyance.

 

It seems to me that when HooBoy was on this side of the ground, he at least tried to keep the interests of the clients as a priority. Now it seems, at least to me, that such is not the case and its now geared toward making it easier for the tech side of the operation.

 

I do not necesarily agree that the site has been declining based on postings and veiw counts in the MC because its not "interesting" but such may be the case. (If I were running the show, many of the "Mean Girls" would have been out a while back.)

 

However, if there is a delcine it may be related to how useful the site remains to clients. The reivews on this site have saved me money, bottom line. After reading reviews or checking on MC exchanges, there as been several times I have changed my mind about hiring an escort who may not have been up to par or less than honest in how he treats clients.

 

Fortunatley,due to this site I have met some really cool guys and have had some great experieinces. Several of the escorts I have met have become friends.

 

There is no better source out there for information on escorts, at least that's how I see it. If you read the "reviews" on other sites they certainly do not have the level of detail or information about the guys. In fact, its my assumption that many of them are written by the escort themselves. However, there is no better source than this site for weeding out the escorts who do make the mistake of trying to pull the wool over these girls on this site.

 

As in any business, its up to the management to decide how they want to run the business. Its up to the customer to decide if they will continue to patronize. Ask any retailer that made the wrong choice on an item if people vote with their feet. Same is true here. As for me, as long as the site continues to be a resource that in the long run saves me time, effort, and money then I will be coming back.

[+ deej]

>I take it the new management here is incapable of

>accommodating the viewing public. Not a pretty picture, I

>assure you. Are you all just into enforcing Posting Rules, or

>accommodating the viewing/contributing public? I think

>the answer is pretty obvious. Too bad, IMHO. Another reason

>not to visit here much any more. x(

 

I do not speak for management, but I've already posted in this thread the email address for you to make your voice heard.

 

You're obviously more interested nothing other than puffing up your chest, issuing a Tarzan yell, and whuffing off without accomplishing anything.

 

If you have input into this topic, write to daddy@male4malescorts.com. Otherwise, you're just grandstanding and getting absolutely nothing done.

[flguy]

AVaGuy, Couldn't agree with you any more. And for Deej, I have emailed daddy in the past and never heard a response. As a fact I sent in a review and a seperate email to him the middle of last week and have not heard anything. If he is interested in the health of this site I am sure he also follows the different threads on the MC.

[Hamlet]

I too am in agreement with what has been said about the importance of keeping all the reviews available. I don't remember ANYONE ever complaining just because the oldest reviews were old - the complaints have always been about the absence of any new reviews for escorts whose info may now be out of date, or who may have retired.

 

Personally, I think it is preposterous to delete the old reviews. Many of them are fascinating, particularly very early reviews of beginning escorts who went on to become well-known and highly regarded. All the reviews are clearly dated. If somebody doesn't want to read an old review all he has to do is not read it.

 

The arguments in favor of deleting or truncating old reviews seem non-existent, at least from the point of view of someone who uses the site. If the person who maintains the site has reasons of his own for deleting old reviews I would love to hear what they are.

 

Like others, I've written to Daddy about this recently. I do expect him to respond, either personally to me or in this thread.

[Guest skywalker]

I agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread by ncm and the others. As someone who hires primarily for a period of a few days, rather than an hour or two, I have to do my homework especially well and having access to early reviews is very helpful.

 

I don't recall seeing any announcement here in the Message Center that early reviews were being removed.

[+ deej]

> I don't recall seeing any announcement here in the Message

>Center that early reviews were being removed.

 

Guys, it is well documented (and has been for years) that the message center is completely separate from the reviews. Daddy even confuses people when he talks about the MC and "the site" as two separate entities.

 

Since I'm no longer involved, I can tell you a secret: Daddy ignores the MC most of the time.

 

If you want to have input into the review process, doing it here is basically pissing into the wind. I'm sure you all mean well, but you are completely wasting your time. I don't say this to be mean or anything, I'm telling you the brutal truth.

 

Write to daddy@male4malescorts.com. He is the ONLY person that handles reviews. Nobody involved in the MC has any involvement in the review process.

 

I applaud those of you who have written.

[+ ArVaGuy]

I recieved a couple of messages from other guys concurring with what I wrote earlier. I am taking your suggestion to write Daddy directly and have done just that. Its possible that he does not realize how important older reviews are to many of the clients who use the site as a resource. I hope my message helps out.

 

If there is anyone else out there who feels the same please drop Daddy a note.

[+ deej]

Good for you! (And THANKS for "getting" it!)

 

Next time you see a post complaining about review policies, encourage that poster to write to Daddy as well.

 

There is no electoral college. Only the popular vote counts, and it's only counted at daddy@male4malescorts.com.

[+ ArVaGuy]

>>

>There is no electoral college. Only the popular vote counts,

>and it's only counted at daddy@male4malescorts.com.

 

Is that a Republican or a Democratic vote count? :+

 

Sorry, could not resist.

[+ deej]

ROFL....

 

Libertarian, if I recall correctly.

[flguy]

Email sent to Daddy

[flguy]

Daddy has replied and said essentially that the abbreviated reviews are because of Storage Problem due to Front Page, the software used to design the site.

[Luv2play]

I am one of those that was disappointed to see the introduction of "abbreviated' review histories. If the problem is one caused by storage limitations, why is it that some escorts listed here who no longer escort have multiple reviews with NO ABBREVIATION (eg. Brandon Keadon in CHI with 15 complete reviews and he quit the biz in 2003)and others who still escort with fewer reviews that are "abbreviated" (like today's Jake Mitchell in SD with 7 reviews, 3 or 4 of which are abbreviated). Doesn't make sense to me.

[Hamlet]

I too received an answer to my email from Daddy. Since it addresses the issue we are all concerned about and contains no personal information, I don't think he would mind my quoting it in full:

 

"Thank you for you input, I really appreciate that you took the time.

All that I'm doing; is going down the same path that Hooboy had

already started in Late 2004.

 

The problem is that the site had grown to the point where we were

overloading Frontpage (Hooboy's favorite HTML editor) and processing

was taking longer and longer each month.

 

We started developing a Database Version to reduce processing time.

Currently processing takes 8-12 hours a day, and once the database is

in place, I estimate that it'll reduce to about 4-6 hours a day.

Sadly, the Database version started becoming viable about the time

that he passed away.

 

The database capture started early in 2003, so that is where I've put

the cut-off point. Hooboy and I had a lot of discussion and I'm

actually set the cut-off point a lot father back than what he had

indicated."

[bessent]

Alex#2 in London - Some Help

 

This may be a partial solution to the difficulty some guys are having.

 

I took as an example Alex#2 in London who has a new photo today.

 

If you use the Search function on the Header, and click to search on male4malescorts.com, then Google brings up his reviews - most of which are now just listed, as others have noted.

 

BUT if you then click on Cached the pages cached on Google bring up all his old reviews in full

 

Maybe this will work for some of the other men you are interested in

[Epigonos]

My problem with abbreviated reviews is that I am 64 years old and look for reviews written by guy in my age range. To find reviews like that I frequently must look back beyond what is now available. I much prefer seeing ALL submitted reviews.

[whipped guy]

Recently I was able to access reviews I wrote several years ago for a retired escort… all his reviews came up even though he is referred to as having been “delisted” as of 10/2004…

 

Is there some sort of archive where ALL the old reviews are stored??

[+ ArVaGuy]

I also heard back from Daddy regarding the issue and exchanged several messages about the situation. His response was the same as was posted here but we did delve a bit deeper into the matter in several exchanges.

 

He mentioned the database set up and that there were at least a couple of people playing around with the system. I will have to give it a try the next time I run across this when I am researching a guy. Based on our exchange it appears to me that Daddy is aware how frustrating this new set up is for the users.

 

That was one of my main issues it just did not seem to me that site management actually understood what such a practice would mean for users. I have to agree with Deej that Daddy is caught in a tough situation and will not be able to satisfy everybody all of the time.

 

I will work around this for the time being but will let Daddy know if the issue becomes a problem for me. Funny, I just noticed that I have not seen where any of the escorts have commented on this matter. Hmmmm.

[Lookin]

In another thread, Okliehomo mentioned Marco Ferreti in Mexico City as a really hot escort. Check out his first two reviews, and let me know if you don't want to read the other six. Whoa!

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/marcoferretimexicocity.html