tipping, again

[Guest firem66803]

hey guys

 

i know the subject of tipping has been discussed to death, but i need some advice. i've been seeing escorts for a little over two years and have always hired for several hours or overnights. at first, i would tip if i felt it was justified ( the escort was on time, showed me a good time, etc. ) it started to get complicated when i would tip a certain escort and he would expect to be tipped every single time. some escorts would even ask for their tip before leaving. at this point, i decided to stop tipping and just pay the agreed upon fee. unfair, yes but i was hoping it would simplify things.

 

this stopped being an issue until just recently. earlier this year, i started seeing an escort in new york. from our first time together ( an overnight ), he paid for lunch, an afternoon at a museum and cab fare. subsequent visits were longer (48 hours) and he continued paying for various expenses now including shows. i was amazed at his generosity and thanked him profusely. naive, yes i know. there was never a hint that he expected to be reimbursed.

 

i saw him earlier this month and he was more incredible than the times before. before i left, i realized i had only $100 on me but knew that i had to give him something. i gave him $50 even though i knew that this did not cover what he paid for during our time. we spoke on the phone later because i wanted to thank him again and the subject of tipping did come up. he felt somewhat slighted and i told him i didn't blame him and i would make up for it the next time.

 

after all this, i've decided to tip on a case by case basis. however, i'm afraid that although tipping is considered optional, i'm afraid that it could be "expected" and i'm not sure how to handle that situation. sorry for the lengthy post but any constructive advice would be appreciated.

[BewareofNick]

Tipping is never obligatory. It should be done if you feel the service went above an dbeyond what you were paying for. If the manwhore felt slighted, that was his problem, not yours. He charged a fee and he got it. For him to expect anything more than that is ridiculous. If he wants more than what he got, he should charge a higher rate.

[whipped guy]

You tip cab drivers, waiters, and your barber. Not your physician, lawyer, or accountant. Of course there are exceptions to every rule... but I think that about says it all...

[JT Brooklyn]

Fire Guy..IF you are Hanging Out with the "Workin Guys" in the NYC Market, which is one of the Highest Rate Markets in the Country, you better believe the "TIP" is Definitely Included..LOL Unless, as they say "Extraordinary Circumstances Prevail" KINK ETC, BUT again this should be discussed before hand as the "TOTAL RATE per Hour! A Guy "asking" you for a Tip, should nicely be sent on his way, AND his Telephone Number Definitely Deleted! ! :+

[Guest Delaware Man]

I do not tip just as I do not tip my accoutant. If I hired through an agency I would but I have never done so. Just my two cents.

[Epigonos]

I NEVER hire for single hour sessions but rather for multiple hours or overnights. With multiple hour sessions the escort and I ALWAYS have either lunch of dinner first. Overnigh sessions usually include breasfast as well. All of these meals and drinks are paid for by me. That being the case I do not feel a tip is or should be expected. However, as another poster stated if I hired a guy from an agency I would then tip.

[VaHawk]

"However, as another poster stated if I hired a guy from an agency I would then tip."

 

Why? Those who are not market savvy enough or enterprising and hard working enough to drum up business without an "agency" should be tipped? Why? The agency is footing all the advertising and marketing and traveling costs that independents have to pay, so in reality, the independents are probably making no more than an agency pays it's escorts!

 

Why should escorts be treated any differently than people in other profession? If you are an IT person, and market yourself and do all the work to find customers, then DUH! you get much more an hour than if you had an agency or broker marketing you and finding you customers!

 

IMO, only tipping escorts from agencies, is an uninformed policy. Besides, any escort, either agency or independent, has placed a value on his services, and neither is cheap, nor deserving of a tip!

[seaboy4hire]

Tipping should NEVER I repeat NEVER be expected from an escort. If he does expect one show him the door. When I was a barista I never expected the folk who came into my shop to tip. They tipped because they felt I gave them good service. What did good service mean to them? Well for some it meant remembering a convorsation we had earlier, remembered their birthday, tried to cheer them up when they were down or just for simply remembering their drink among hundreds that I made and took orders for. I know that maybe being a barista is a bit different then escorting but really when ya get down to the foundation it is basicly the same, customer service and making sure that the person you are seeing leaves with a smile on their face from ear to ear.

 

Hugs,

Greg

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[Guest Merlin]

When I first started hiring, I did tip guys I really liked. Now, I never do, but of course I pay expenses and would reeimburse for lunch etc.

Some agencies use the device of a "tip" in an attempt to aviod breaking the law. In Las Vegas, several years ago I contacted an agency and was told that they provided an introduction for "posing" only, absolutely no sex (nudge,nudge, wink, wink). I was to pay the model $100 immediately upon his arrival. After that, if anything happened the company had nothing to do with it. And, I was told that the model only got tips. So, I went along. He showed up, looked good and I gave him the $100 up front. Then he told me that he usually expects a tip of $500. I told him calmly that he had cheated me out of the $100, but he would get no more and I showed him the door. He couldn't believe what was happening, and on the way out said he would have taken $200. I would not handle it the same today, but I would be very leary of guys who tell me they expect timps.

[JT Brooklyn]

IN Large Markets..."Agency Rates" other than Phila are $300 an hour some times more..The "Working Guy" gets a Name and Address, Hopefully the "Situation" he is going into.VERY little "work" on his part, til he gets to the Bedroom... I don't think you have to "Play High Roller" by giving a Tip! BUT I am sure the Workin Guys don't mind one bit, the Guys who think they should do that "Role Play"! LOL :+

[augustman]

When I first started purchasing escort services, I too tipped on a regular basis. I did it for a couple of reasons, first I looked at the service provided as akin a service being provided by a profession where a base rate per hour was establised and the real money earned was in the tip. Second, I figured I would be treated by the escort a bit more special on the next hook up, a sort of priority customer.

 

I have since modified my position. First I now have an experienced background in hiring and my expectations. If they meet my expectations they can expect my referal in the form of a good review. If they exceed it I will tip. But I have found typically on repeat visits there is an expectation of something more even though at times I have found repeat visits typically not as good as first with two exceptions. One guy I have meet several times and the last time was an overnight and he actually outdid himself on the overnight. I bought him lunch just before he left and had an excellent time I went to give him the tip and he refused saying I was already way too generous by buying him lunch. Unfortunately so far he has set a standard which no one has managed to come close too.

 

So I would say tip the exceptional. I do not think there are enough of them around and they probably deserve more. I think sometimes we let our standards down because some guys treat us nice but may be the sex is good just not exceptional or vice versa. When I get both I will step up but now I have expectations. I think the most difficult situations are the repeat ones. Given this I have also learned to keep some distance in repeat meetings.