Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

[Fin Fang Foom]

I hate to disappoint many of you but this is not going to be one of my review deconstructions. It's simply a couple of observations.

 

To keep you from having to find it, here's the full text, with my comments following......

 

Review #16, 10/9/2004 - Response Follows

 

Name: Omar:

Location: Phoenix

Email: omar4u2nite@hotmail.com

Phone: 602-790-7997

 

Ethnicity: Mediterranean Age: 30's

Height: 5'10" (178 cm) Weight: 160-170 lbs (73-77 kg) Build: Defined

Hair: Short Dark Brown

Body Hair: Moderate Facial Hair: Goatee

Cock: Cut 7-8" (18-20 cm) Thick

 

Orientation: Gay Kissing: No Masturbation: Both Anal: Top Oral: Gets

Roles: Escort

Rates for time only(US $): 1st=250

 

Date: 08/2004 Type: 1 Hour Rate: $250

Rating: Unsatisfactory Hire Again? No

Where Found? Other website

Reviewed Before? Yes Match Description? No Lived up? No

 

Experience: Wow, what a disappointing experience! Especially given all the glowing reviews Omar has gotten. I found Omar on MeetLocalMen.com and read his reviews on this site. I decided to hire him because his reviews matched what I was looking for. His photos on the LocalMen site were very hot. He was not as built in person, but that wasn't the problem.

 

Omar was very friendly on the phone and I felt a good connection. I must have caught him on an off night because when I arrived at his hotel room the strangeness began.

 

This is what I paid $250 for: When I walked into the room the television was on. After we say hello he just stands and watches the TV until I say 'shall we turn off the TV?'. He strips and sits on the edge of the bed and I began sucking his dick. After about 3 minutes he shoots his load. Still down on my knees I'm not sure what to do at this point. I licked his nuts a bit and he started to get hard again. I was impressed that he could get hard again so fast. (His dick is a great 8"er, though not the 9-10 in his reviews.) After a couple of minutes he says "You want another guy to join us? There's a hot Australian guy in the room next door." (This is strange, but I play along) 'What does he look like?' I ask. He walks me over to his laptop screen and shows me his photo. 'He's got a very big dick.' 'OK,' I say.

He costs the same as me. (What's going on here?) 'I only brought enough for you' 'We can walk to an ATM'. 'No' I said.

 

We go back over to the bed and lay down. With only 10 seconds of foreplay he tries to fuck me. Of course it hurt! I pulled him out and said to slow down. He waits 30 seconds and succeeds the second time and starts pumping away. Meanwhile, I'm thinking: 'this is not hot'.

I pull him out and go to the bathroom to regroup.

 

I walk back into the room and say: 'You know, I don't think this is going to to work. I don't think the connection is right.' He looks genuinely stunned. Though we're only 20 minutes into the session I put the money on the bureau and start to get dressed. He stood there looking at me. I say, 'When you brought up about the other guy joining us I felt like I was being hustled.' I think he made some kind of apology and said nothing like this as ever happened before. I tried to make him feel better: 'some times it just doesn't work out', I said.

 

He stands close to me while I'm sitting on the bed putting my shoes on. I put my head on his side and hold him for several minutes. This was the most connected moment of the night. I decided to review my options. 'How about some massage work?', I asked. 'You want to massage me?' 'No, you massage me.' 'OK'.

He massages my back for a while. When I roll over he starts to jack me off. His technique to too rough. So I finish myself off.

 

Overall, I guess my main complaint is that, with me, he didn't seem to know how to be intimate and passionate. He offers minimal body contact and just seems like he's going through the motions. I never got the sense that he was trying to give me a good time.

 

Handle: builtnuncut

Submissions: Second Review with this handle

Previous Reviews: Enzo, San Francisco

 

You: 6'2", 185#, lean, built, hairy, uncut, 45 yrs., masc.

I'm a very passionate type, into erotic play. I usually hire men for massage, most of them become very sexual. Three have fucked me during the massage session in the past two months. I look like a top, but I'm very fuckable, I guess.

 

 

Omar Responds

 

 

Thank you for providing such a wonderful service to the escort/client community. In response to the review of my services by “builtnuncut”, I must say, “I am sorry”. My client had a disappointing experience and that matters very much to me. If he would like to contact me for another session, (at a significantly discounted rate) I am confident he will find me much more worthwhile. He describes me as “not as built” as – I suppose my other review descriptions, not my own. He refers to “strangeness” in some undefined context. Even wonders “what’s going on here” when I realize he’s not totally comfortable and offer to introduce my co-worker for his pleasure. Almost all of my clients recognize and appreciate my ability to bring intimacy and passion into my encounters. You see, I understand that sexual skill is only a part of the experience. Please publish my response here so that other potential clients will understand that I am indeed dedicated to their complete satisfaction.

 

Thank you,

Omar

Phoenix, Az

 

 

OK, now that we're all on the same page..............

 

Omar at no time refutes anything that builtnuncut said so we're going to have to accept the review as accurate. In fact, the related encounter is so banal that it rings true.

 

I met "Omar" socially earlier this year and when I met him, I didn't know he was a who.....oops.......I mean prosti........sorry, I mean.......uh......escort. Even in a social setting I found him to be extremely self-involved which quickly translated into being run-of-the-mill "boring". So, when builtnuncut said Omar stood watching TV when he first showed up, I thought: "Yep, that sounds like him."

 

As an observer, the two things that pissed me off the most were:

 

1. He wants to spend the john's money so he can get laid by the big-dicked Australian next door. Excuse me? If I'm spending MY money, it's so I can have a good time and not so YOU can get laid by someone you find more attractive than me. The self-involved would say they were just trying to make you happy when in fact all they were doing was trying to make THEMSELVES happy. For $250 I expect you to act like I'm Brad Fucking Pitt.

 

2. For me, this is the coup de grace: "My client had a disappointing experience and that matters very much to me. If he would like to contact me for another session, (at a significantly discounted rate) I am confident he will find me much more worthwhile."

 

AT A SIGNIFICANTLY DISCOUNTED RATE??????

 

Bitch, how about for FREE?

 

You're rude when the john comes in, a bad lay and, to top it all off, insult him by wanting to drag in someone hotter than he is (oh, and that will be another $250 please) just so you can have a little party of your own and now you want him to return to the scene of the crime and give you MORE money??

 

I know this word sends some of you around the bend, but in Omar's case, by his behavior, he's earned it............what a who-re. (Gotta break up the word since in its complete form the moderator changes it to ##### - let's hear it for Freedom of Speech!)

 

Indignantly yours,

 

FFF

[guyinsf]

While I didn't get pissed off by the review or response because the encounter described has nothing to do with me, I do agree with the two points you made. Omar's unresponsive response certainly left me with the impression that what the client wrote was probably accurate as well. In addition to not refuting any of the client's less than flattering comments, Omar sinks his own ship by not recognizing that his behavior was rude (how is suggesting to a NEW client that he should double his expense to hire another hot guy so you can enjoy yourself showing concern for your client's enjoyment?) and by making the ludicrous offer that the client should pay him even more money to be disappointed again. The client actually comes across as having some class in his review (unlike some negative reviews where the client gets overly catty) and obviously paid the full fee despite his serious disappointment with Omar's performance.

[kjun]

Ditto!

 

the Cajun

[+ Charlie]

RE: Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

 

Although I agree for the most part with the comments here, I have a somewhat different take on the scene. Omar doesn't seem to be cynically hustling the client, just completely oblivious to the client's reactions. The fact that he is "stunned" when the client announces it isn't working supports FFF's description of him as "self-involved"--not a surprising characterization, since he is a handsome, butch, aggressively dominant man who is used to being adored for those qualities alone (see his other reviews). A true hustler would just take the money and push the client out the door at that point, but instead Omar tries to adjust to the sudden change in dynamic, asking the client what he would like to do, trying to massage the client when he asks for it, and even jerking him off. He is not very good at it, but he's at least trying to re-focus on the client rather than himself. The written response shows he is still trying, however clumsily. I doubt that this experience is going to turn him into a smooth, sensitive escort, but I think he may learn from it, since he doesn't sound stupid or indifferent.

[pierrot]

I hired Omar once and reviewed him on this site under the handle Adam Bert. At the time, although the sex was good and he was hot, I noted a lack of sensitivity. About that time I had an e-mail from another guy on this list who had just seen Omar, and he considered Omar a real hustler type. Not dangerous or wacko, but just self-involved and glad to make as much money as easily as he could. My experience was more positive than that, but it's interesting that the theme keeps coming back from time to time in his reviews.

I think Omar could be first rate, but he'd better read these reviews and try a little harder to please.

We know it's about money Omar, but the point is not to make people feel that way.

[VaHawk]

RE: Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

 

Well, I don't know if I agree with such a harsh assessment.

 

It seemed to me that the reviewer is one of those clients who want a little more personal interaction via conversation and extended foreplay, and he encountered an escort that was more into the physical only aspect, where he is the dominant top. IMO, that's why he stated that the best part of the encounter was resting against the escort's side and why he was the one who ended the session, because the escort was not that type of service provider.

 

No where in any of the escort's many reviews, is there any mention of that type of service, as they all center around the deep, pounding topping skills provided by the escort.

 

IMO, when I read the review, I thought that the reviewer was at best "hard to please", no pun intended.

 

He immediately sucked the escort's cock and loved it so much that he just couldn't stop until the escort shot his load, and then he was disappointed because he really wanted to get penetrated by the escort, especially since all of that escort's reviews praised his topping talents. At that point, in his mind, the escort was now "done as he had shot his wad".

 

I'd bet anything that he expressed that disappointment, which is why at that point, the escort mentioned his Australian friend, with the big cock, as once again, imo at least, the reviewer comes across a real size queen bottom, which was probably why he hired that particular escort in the first place.

 

So it's bad for the escort to deliver as promised and in an effort to please the client, to mention another well endowed top that could further please the client, when the client feels that the session is basically over even though he is still "hot to be topped"?

 

Seems like that was okay with the reviewer as he did indeed ask "what does he look like and he looked at the other escort's pics". To his big surprise??, he found out that being topped by the other escort would cost him an additional fee? What the hell, was he born in Naiveland? Sounded like, if he had the funds to do so, that he would have gone along with it.

 

BTW: where, in the review was it ever stated that escort being reviewed was the one that was going to be getting it on with the other escort, and not the client posting the review? Aren't both Omar and the other escort tops?

 

Despite all that, the escort reviewed, gave the client a massage, and did indeed get it up and proceed to provide the topping that the client desired. It was the client, who decided to end the action, not the escort, because there just wasn't enough "foreplay"??? Wasn't he getting the pounding that he hired the escort to provide?

 

I bet there are a lot of clients out there who could state that they have gotten a lot less effort and physical interaction for their money.

 

I thought the escort's response was okay, as he stated that it wasn't him who misrepresented his physique, in any way, but rather other clients who did so, if at all, in their reviews. He has pictures, and the reviewer never stated that he didn't look like his pics.

 

It seemed to me that, despite the lack of raves about the escort's interpersonal and intimacy skills, in his reviews, that the client was so enamored of the dominating big cocked, topping skills that were raved about in the escort's reviews, that he hired him anyway, and is now complaining about the lack of interpersonal/intimacy skills.

[Luv2play]

RE: Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

 

I think this was a case of misplaced expectations on the part of the client. What struck me most was his description of himself and his previous experiences. If we are to believe his own description, he sounds pretty hot to me and if accurate, I would jump into bed with the client (and pay) myself!

 

Second, he refers to the fact that he hires masseurs mostly and ends up getting fucked. GREAT! But masseurs don't always do that, even the ones who offer release. Some who do switch to an escort rate for that service and others don't, in my experience. The client is usually asked if he wants to be fucked at some point when things start to get hot. If it is for the same rate as the massage, GREAT!!!

 

Now this client did hire Omar knowing he was going with an escort whose reviews he had read. He knew Omar was a top and an Arab too. I've had some experience here and unfailingly have come to expect a dominating, totally top performance with little reciprocation. Sometimes I'm up for that and enjoy it. At other times I want more affection (deep kissing, caressing etc) and would not go with Omar if that is what I wanted, based solely on his reviews.

 

I was also impressed that after shooting his load so quickly, Omar was up and ready again so quickly (ah to be young again!). And ready to fuck. Apart from the too-hasty entry, Omar showed he was willing to give the client full service. Really, what does this client want? A boyfriend???

 

As for the offer of a second top, well again, that was offered at a cost and the client was not pressured into accepting that as the only way he was going to get fucked. Omar was fully capable of getting the job done himself. So what is the client complaining about? Omar even offered a massage.

 

I think this client needs to lossen up a little and try to hire escorts that meet his needs.

[Fin Fang Foom]

RE: Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

 

>It seemed to me that the reviewer is one of those clients who

>want a little more personal interaction via conversation and

>extended foreplay,

 

Could I please see a show of hands of those who want an escort to cum three minutes into the sexual encounter when you came with plans of him fucking you?

 

 

 

>and he encountered an escort that was more

>into the physical only aspect, where he is the dominant top.

>IMO, that's why he stated that the best part of the encounter

>was resting against the escort's side and why he was the one

>who ended the session, because the escort was not that type of

>service provider.

 

No, the "service provider" (what a sweet way of putting it) was killing the experience because of his behavior.

 

 

 

>He immediately sucked the escort's cock and loved it so much

>that he just couldn't stop until the escort shot his load,

 

No, that's NOT what he said. You're putting words in a mouth that's already full of Egyptian cock. Knowing what I know of his self-involved personality (more on that in a moment) he didn't care that if he came in such a short amount of time. Did he not think it might not be what the client wanted since the client was looking for a fucking? Instead, he went ahead and blew. Don't you think the "polite" thing to do would have been to say: "I'm really close, do you want me to cum?", instead of SQUIRRRRRRRT into the guy's mouth? I bow to everyone's greater experience in the world of "service providers", but common sense tells me that if you're expecting the "service provider" to cum TWICE (or at least get hard twice), you're gonna make that clear beforehand and not while you've still got the taste of the guy's cum in your mouth. This guy striked me as one who know this.

 

 

 

>the reviewer comes across a real size queen bottom,

 

I'm sorry, is there any other kind?

 

 

 

>So it's bad for the escort to deliver as promised and in an

>effort to please the client, to mention another well endowed

>top that could further please the client,

 

Who just HAPPENS to be right next door. How conveeeeeeeenient. Carol Merrill, please show the contestant who's behind Door #2!

 

 

 

>Seems like that was okay with the reviewer as he did indeed

>ask "what does he look like and he looked at the other

>escort's pics".

 

It's called "polite curiosity". It's the same phenomenon when friends ask if we want to see their 5,489 baby pictures.

 

 

 

>Despite all that, the escort reviewed, gave the client a

>massage,

 

I missed this the first time around. When the client suggests a massage, Omar, being the self-involved guy that he is, immediately thinks the guy wants to give HIM the massage. Oops, no Omar, it's not all about you - it's the CLIENT who would like the massage.

 

 

 

>and did indeed get it up and proceed to provide the

>topping that the client desired.

 

You aren't reading the review everyone else is. He did NOT receive the topping he wanted because after a short time he ended it because the fucking was "not hot". So Omar, in FACT, did NOT provide the topping the client desired. In other words, he did not earn the money he was about to receive.

 

 

 

>It was the client, who

>decided to end the action, not the escort, because there just

>wasn't enough "foreplay"???

 

Read it again, that's not the reason the client gave for ending it.

 

 

 

>Wasn't he getting the pounding

>that he hired the escort to provide?

 

In a word: no.

 

 

 

>I bet there are a lot of clients out there who could state

>that they have gotten a lot less effort and physical

>interaction for their money.

 

And you think that would be a GOOD thing?

 

 

 

>He has pictures, and the reviewer never stated that he didn't

>look like his pics.

 

Once again, you're not reading the review. The reviewer said: "His photos on the LocalMen site were very hot. He was not as built in person". We can agrue for days the varying degrees of "as built" but having met Omar, I can easily see how his body can fluctuate. He's got a thick (but not hard) muscular body that can quickly sag a bit if he's not eating right and working out constantly.

 

 

>is now complaining about the lack of interpersonal/intimacy skills.

 

Like that pesky skill of turning off the fucking TV when someone comes into the room? Unless a client tells a "servive provider" right up front that he wants him to be emotionally uninvolved and detached, for the next sixty minutes that "service provider" better act like the client is his long-lost love and not someone who'd rather be watching a rerun of ER.

 

Appropriately yours,

 

FFF

[Mouth]

RE: Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

 

Fin Fang Foom is right to raise these issues about Omar. I had a session with him earlier this year, and I should have read his reviews more carefully. Omar is indeed a very attractive man with a beautiful body and a nice dick (though it is not as large as advertised). But he is certainly more of a wham-bam kind of guy. He jams his dick down your throat and he jams his cock up your ass. Most of his reviews talk about what a relentless fucker he is, and I would cerrtainly agree. What Omar lacks is finesse. Perhaps some of his clients enjoy being rammed into--I don't. That doesn't mean that I don't enjoy a really aggressive fuck, but there's a world of difference between being an aggressive top and an insensitive battering ram. Omar doesn't kiss so much as he mashes his face on you mouth. Every aspect of our encounter could be described as hard surfaces being slamed against each other. That's not sex, that's a hit and run acccident. The actual time spent in the act with him was about 10 minutes.

 

I would definitely classify Omar as self-absorbed. He thinks he's giving you the ride of your life--the posturing was nearly comical. Too bad. I had been looking at his reviews for quite a while before I took, the plunge (so to speak). He's very good looking and if he could learn how to slow down, concentrate on his client's pleasure, he could certainly succeed. He already has quite a sheaf of contented clients reviews. I don't like giving negative reviews (the one I posted, I still regret). I've enjoyed a number of fine escorts and posted enthusiastic reviews when they happened. Every once in a while I get a lemon, and it is usually my fault for not paying close enough attention.

 

Fin Fang Foom tells it like it is.

[pierrot]

RE: Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

 

My review of Omar gives him much the same rating as yours. I found his body to be well defined and sexy, better than his photos. His cock, I agree, is not a huge as some reviewers say (so what else is new?), about 7 inches long, but unusually thick. It's a nice piece of meat, but nowhere near 10-11 inches. He also enjoyed being aggressive with me. He quickly got hard when I was sucking him, then went straight to the fucking. Fine with me. He did want to pound right in, but took it slower when I asked him to, so I can't fault him for that. He also waited for me to say I'd had enough, so I can't fault him for that either.

My negative feeling only came later when he jumped up, went to the shower and within seconds was out cleaning up his kitchen. I thought he could have at least acted like I was still there, maybe returned to bed for post-play or whatever until the time I paid for was up.

FFF is right about Omar being on the self absorbed side, and I agree that he needs to be more conscious of his client's feelings and reactions.

[gayray]

RE: Fin Fang Foom Muses On The Omar Review & Response

 

I agree with FFM. I am currently writing my first negative review in 6 years of using escorts! There is nothing worse than an escort that is mentally and physically aloof. I think all of us fondly remember those escorts that were completely present in the here-and-now and who were totally focused on pleasing their client. There is nothing worse than a selfish escort. And yes, for $250 of (tax free) hourly fee, I expect first class and impecable service! If an escort is having a bad-hair-day they should just cancel the meeting, it is not fair to subject the client to their crappy side.