Man To Man Escorts

[Guest ManToManEscorts]

Hey Guys!

 

Sitting here at my computer -- as I always do, 7 nights a week, 4-12 PM (PST). Sorry for venting, but perhaps someone could expain this constantly recurring theme for my business:

 

Client (E-mail): Hi! I would like to hire Mark from Palm Springs. I am in Burbank. Might he be available to come see me on Sunday at 12 noon?

 

Me: yes -- I called Mark and secured his availability. Here are several more pics of him, as requested. He will be happy to come see you Sunday at noon! Please call me ASAP -- or if you prefer, leave a number and a good time to reach you discreetly.

 

Client: no response

Client: no response

Client: no response

 

Me: Hi! Just checking to see if you are still interested in seeing Mark on Sunday at 12 noon. Please call me or E-mail me asap.

 

Client: no response

Client: no response

Client: no response

 

Scenario #2:

 

Client: Hi -- I am interested in seeing Logan either Saturday or Sunday this weekend in LA. Could you please check on his availability and get back to me ??

 

Me: Hi! Thx for your interest in Logan. I just spoke to him -- and he is def. available anytime this weekend to see you in LA. Please call me or E-mail me as soon as you know the exact date/time/location you'd like to meet him -- and I will set everything up! You will NOT be disappointed! Thx!

 

Client: Silence

Client: silence

Me: Hi! just wondering if you'd still like to meet Logan this weekend? He is a wonderful, hung masculine guy! Please call me or E-mail me ASAP! Here are some more hot pics of him! Thx!

 

Client; Silence

Client; Silence

Client: Silence

 

So, bottom line: I call my escorts back and tell them: "oops -- I guess the client wasn't serious after all -- SORRY!" I LOVE my guys -- but I fear they are seriously losing faith in me -- as this scenario happens soooo often!

 

After 4-5 years of running my business, I am still baffled as to why the above-mentioned scenario occurs approx 25-40 times/week -- no exaggeration. (rarely resulting in a booking). Should I just close up shop and quit this biz?

 

It can't be about rates: I have not raised my rates in 5 years, and the rates are clearly stated on my website to begin with.

 

Perhaps some knowledgeable contributors to this terrific site might be able to shed some light as to what I may or may not be doing wrong. Any constructive (non-bitchy) criticism or suggestions are appreciated!

 

In the meantime -- it's 10:15 PM on Saturday. I am turning off my phones and going to bed. I am so down --- so down... I have worked so very hard and gone thru so much to make my business reliable and responsible and professional and the BEST in the West... I am just so down... so down right now...

 

I'm sorry....Thx so much for your time!

 

A very frustrated Dave (owner)

http://www.ManToManEscorts.com

info@ManToManEscorts.com

(866) 626-4626

[Guest Lust4Life]

I don't think your experience is unique. I must believe that the independent escort experiences the same lack of commitment from clients inquiring about their service.

 

Since no money has been invested the lack of obligation becomes apparent to the client. Thus they tend to disregard all common courtesy or respect in making or breaking an appointment.

 

Whether to keep your business open or not is a decison only you can make. Your escorts must understand that this is not the most stable business to be involved in. That with the instability comes loss of time and money. All you con do is continue to provide the best service you can and hope that more than less will appreciate this at the end of the day.

[marc anthony]

Hi Dave:

 

One suggestion... some Agencies require all bookings to be done by phone and only general questions via email. This may not be a bad idea.

 

I would bet you would substantially lessen your flake rate with that policy. Whether you would get fewer overall inquiries? Maybe. But likely worth it to reduce the stress you are feeling right now.

[TotallyOz]

Dave,

 

Your experiences are not unique. This is something that happens quite a bit actually. The best thing to do is to not make any bookings via e-mail or calls to boys to ask them if they are available unless the e-mail is from a regular client. If the e-mail is from a regular, by all means take the initiative to call the boy and check availability. If not from someone you know as a regular how about a response like:

 

Jonny is available most evenings and weekends. I would be happy to work with you on setting up something, please give me a call at xxx-xxx-xxxx so we can arrange this. Thanks and have a good day!

 

That way, you don't have to go out on a limb 40 times every week for flakes and you will look better with your boys as well as with the clients.

 

One thing I know that guys hate is to get ask about availability for a call and then the client flake on them. If it is done through an agency, often they think the agency is a flake as well. I know this is not the case with you as I have heard great things about your service. I would just think it best to have them call you to discuss the appointment before you go out on a limb. Most serious clients who book with an agency are willing to do this.

Keep up the good work in Cali!

[KY_TOP]

I have in the past used 3 different Escort Agencies. 1 in Chicago and 2 in NYC. All 3 wanted to talk to me on the phone before making arrangements with the Escort. Even though I had in the past felt more comfortable making arrangements by e-mail I found all the experiences with these Agencies on the phone to be very professional and friendly. In one one case I introduced myself as _____ from Ky and he responded this is _____ from Mississippi. We both laughed and even though he is no longer with that Agency, I had the pleasure to later meet him by chance and still consider him a friend. Funny thing he even remembered who I had hired from the Agency.

 

So I also would recommend talking on the phone before contacting your boys about time with the client. Gives you the chance to try to weed out the flakes and helps to protect you and your boys.

[Guest ManToManEscorts]

Gentlemen:

 

Re-reading my posting this morning, I am embarrassed that I was so much in the "pity me" mood when I wrote it. Sorry for my rantings -- quiet Saturday eves bring out the worst in me I guess. LOL

 

Anyhow, I feel much better this morning -- especially after reading all of your supportive suggestions. I have not been posting often in the past year or so, which I will remedy, as I miss the dialog and feedback that only guys on this Message Board can truly offer.

 

Basically, you are all saying the same thing: Don't contact the escort until you speak with client on phone and ascertain his credibility (unless it's a regular). And this suggestion I will implement starting today.

 

Just to claify one point: I NEVER actually send an escort on a call without speaking to the client on the phone first, and that will never change.

 

I think I just hafta resign myself that numerous "E-mail inquiries" are just part of the business -- and from then on it's a numbers game -- kinda like sending out resumes. It just seems to me that in the past year or so, the inquiry/booking percentage has been decreasing rapidly.

 

I liken my situation to being in the restaurant biz. A couple sits down, asks the waiter numerous questions about the menu, then asks to speak to the chef and for 15 minutes grills him on the details of his preparation. Then the couple gets up and leaves.

 

I've come to the realization that my business is now 5% booking agent -- and 95% photo-mailing service -- and this is not likely to change in the near future. I chose to do this kinda work, so I hafta learn to live with it or find something else to do (alot easier said than done).

 

Anyhow -- thanks again to all for your input and kind words -- and hopefully things will pick up soon!

 

Dave

http://www.ManToManEscorts.com

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>I don't think your experience is unique. I must believe that

>the independent escort experiences the same lack of commitment

>from clients inquiring about their service.

>

>Since no money has been invested the lack of obligation

>becomes apparent to the client. Thus they tend to disregard

>all common courtesy or respect in making or breaking an

>appointment.

>

 

Good point!! There is constant bitching on this board about escorts that don't answer emails or return calls or no show. And all of that really pisses me off too, especially when it happens to me. (A no-show is one of the few things I that will cause me to submit a negative review.) However, as Dave makes clear and you articulate, the same shit happens with clients. If it were just part of the escort character we wouldnt see it in clients as much as we do. No, it is a part of the character of some people acting in unaccountable situations. It has nothing to do with people being escorts or clients, just people lacking character.

[Bilbo]

Dave - Good to hear that you're going to be posting more again in the future.

For some reason, this thread made me notice something - I don't remember ever seeing a discussion mainly between two or more agency owners or operators here on the threads before. It would be nice if you guys could use this site to network, sort of like escorts asking each other questions in the Ask An Escort section. (Note, I am not really advocating or purposely suggesting an Ask Agency Management section.)

It has been quite some time since I worked for an agency, but I seem to remember that they had us call in and check in and out on the nights when we were working. I do remember that when I worked for phone fantasy companies that we worked that way. If you had your men check in and out, you could know when they were available by looking at some sort of a bulletin board or something. There is probably some obvious reason I'm missing as to why you don't want to do it this way, since no-one else has suggested it. But I get points for originality, don't I? :-)

[Guest Lust4Life]

>I've come to the realization that my business is now 5%

>booking agent -- and 95% photo-mailing service -- and this is

>not likely to change in the near future.

 

Just a suggestion ..........

 

To minimize your photo delivery service you might consider placing nude pics on your site either behind a AVS or not. Most agencies do this and probably for that very purpose.

 

BTW Rudy and JT sure look sweet. Wish I was in So. California :9

[bigguyinpasadena]

Dave-glad to hear you are in a better space than your original post.

Might I suggest that turning off the phones at 10:30 pm on a saturday night is not such a hot idea?I have been around people in the biz for many years and(this is true especially in LA)the late weekend night dates are really profitable for them.Horny,slightly drunk or high guys are often willing to spend a lot more to get off than they would in other circumstances.Sometimes these are sloppy pigs-but often they are easy to handle.

Second,do not live by your phone.If it rings great,but you should be able to set something up while living your other life.

I think the guys who go to email sites for hookers might just be "scrapbooking"either for their own jollies or to post in an amature photo site.If it happens,well thats kinda bad,but not having photos on your site is worse.But all real comunication should be done via telephone.

Also,I would say that 30=40%of calls either to an agency or to an individual working boy do not work out,you MUST handle all calls(unless they are abusive or obscene)with courtesy and professionalism.

And coming to a Hooville LA chapter meeting would not hurt!

[JamesK840]

And bring some boys! }(

[chrismac]

Dave - I think the pic-hunting is the issue, as you've mentioned yourself. To that end, perhaps posting some nude photos may not be a bad idea, especially if you can tie it to an age-verification service.

 

To those of us who have used your services for serious meetings in the past, I want to thank you again for providing such an excellent array of guys to that 5% of us who are your premium (paying) customers.

 

Thanks again! :7

[Guest ManToManEscorts]

Gentlemen!

 

Again -- I am so grateful for all the good suggestions and moral support I have received from so many of you (either on this message thread or privately). I will respond privately to most of you, rather than take up alot of space on this board.

 

I feared that many of the responses I got would be of the "Oh, just get over it, Girl" variety. I now see that I had clearly underestimated the quality of the Hooville membership!

 

BigGuyinPasadena: Speaking of HooVille: I will be dog-sitting for one of my guys (Grant) in West Hollywood June 19-28. Will there be any HooVille get-togethers during that time? I'd like to come!

 

Anyhow -- I also had a wonderful chat with Dave -- my fellow agency owner in Chicago (The Agency)-- who was VERY supportive and fun. It was great to meet another agency owner -- we are a dying breed!

 

Also, Brian Green (NYC escort) wrote me a wonderful letter about how to better market my business etc. IF anyone in NYC is ever looking for a really intelligent and savvy guy -- I'd strongly recommend him. His observations were right on the mark.

 

I have decided to explore the "Adult Check" route to make X-pics available to potential clients. It's my understanding that this will not likely produce much revenue, but at least will cut down on the non-productive "photo-mailing" aspect of my biz.

 

Also am toying with the idea of placing a banner ad on my site (such as for Viagra or Cialis) -- anyone have any ideas on how

cost-effective this might be?

 

Well, I'll close for now -- and keep you all posted on how things go. Thanks again for taking time to offer feedback and support -- it really means alot!

 

Dave

http://www.ManToManEscorts.com (website)

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(866) 626-4626