Holloway-When will they learn?

[CT Dick]

Today someone posted another negative review of Anthony Holloway.

 

I do not know this escort and have to reason to form an opinion except that I have read negative postings about him ever since I started on this site.

 

How can I feel sorry for this "nutbiz?" He has posted 5 or more reviews so he is familiar with this site. Still, he waltzed into the quicksand.

 

I just went over the 31 (yes, thirty-one) reviews of AH:

---#1 is missing

--- 13 negative reviews

--- 3 positive reviews by multiple reviewers

---10 positive reviews by first timers

---4 reviews by 'rob b'

 

How much more obvious can it be? There is something rotten in the land of Holloway.x(

 

Dick

[woodlawn]

I Love Fraud

 

CT, has it ever crossed your mind that there are gay men who actually PREFER dealing with hookers who are known to be thieves or con artists like AH? I can think of no other explanation for the fact that AH and his ilk continue to get business even from people who acknowledge having read negative reviews on this site.

 

Should we petition Hooboy to create a special section for the reviews of this type of escort to make it easier for those who want them to find them? What do you think?

[+ Unicorn]

I agree. How dense can a guy be? I'm sorry, but there's no denying that anyone who hires an escort with 13 negative reviews is in dire need of a brain transplant. And to be surprised by the bad experience is even more dense!! }(

[SoCal]

I think another problem is that some clients get so enamored of a particular escort that they decide to meet with them no matter HOW many bad reviews there may be! The escort's face, pics, etc. sometimes so infatuate us that we put care (and negative reviews) aside and hire the guy anyway! I know I've done it once or twice...

 

This happened to me with Scott Ransome http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/scottrandsomela.html Even though I'd read his reviews, talked to others, etc. I hired him. I figured that I was "the one" that would have better results with him, we'd get along, and that it would all work out. WRONG! He was as bad - if not worse - during our meeting as his reviews and other client's experiences. (He was still HOT looking though!)

 

Sometimes the "little brain" down below the waistline takes over rational thought from the brain in our head!

 

:-)

[Prime Muscle]

"Sometimes the "little brain" down below the waistline takes over rational thought from the brain in our head!"

 

What do you mean "sometimes" -- more often than not for me!

[Guest gentle guy]

VHS or DVD

 

Given the nature of Anthony's largely negative reviews, I always thought the best way to spend time with him would be vicariously, through his films. :+

 

(I recently saw Anthony in Ryker's Web, where he bottoms for Ken. Ouch.)

[CT Dick]

RE: I Love Fraud

 

>Should we petition Hooboy to create a special section for the

>reviews of this type of escort to make it easier for those who

>want them to find them?

 

"He lied to me. He stole my money. He didn't let me touch him. I loved every minute of it.":7 :7 :7

 

Dick

[+ glutes]

RE: I Love Fraud, Part II

 

Well it isn't just Anthony Holloway. Look at the review today (of my very favorite) Aaron Westin.

Can you believe people still pay money for this??

[JamesK840]

RE: I Love Fraud, Part II

 

Noticed that too. I've met Aaron (not sexually), he's gorgeous (vs. Anthony, whose pic doesn't do much for me), and I really don't think Aaron tries to rip anybody off.

 

He's just in the wrong line of work and seems to realizing it. It's really a pity, he could make a fortune if he wanted to. Even on the phone, well, let's just say I think this is the only form of retail he'd even have a chance in.

 

That said, I do wish him the best and I do think there are quite a few people who would be very happy with the Aaron experience, not at all because they're masochists who like getting ripped off, but because they want to service a gorgeous guy and don't expect a lot in return.

 

Those with more interactive tastes may want to take a look at Kristian, similar body type (more muscular actually) and also gorgeous.

[+ glutes]

RE: I Love Fraud, Part II

 

If you read the 9 reviews of Aaron, 3 (33%) said they had a unsatisfactory experience, and would not hire again. Actually the percentage should be higher, the first review is total ad copy.

Caveat Emptor.

[KY_TOP]

Different Strokes for Different Folks

 

I actually find BOTH of Aaron's reviews posted today as negative even though one says he recommends him and would hire him again. The "positive review" basicly says that he paid Aaron to service him with little or no reciprocation on Aaron's part. I want an Escort that will also service me in some way, even if it is just jacking me off. To totally service a guy I am paying with nothing in return is not my thing. One reason I like the Montreal Strip Clubs is that even though many dancers are Str8, you can do a little test drive before paying for the total package.

 

This just goes to show that Different Strokes for Different Folks. Obviously a lot of clients are very happy to pay some good looking Str8 guy to just suck his cock and be satisfied. A lot of Str8 Escorts and even Bi (I believe many Bi Escorts are actually Str8, they think Gay guys will find the term Bi less offensive and give the Client the thought that he might get more) do very well by getting paid to just get serviced and they think they are doing the guy a favor. As long as they can make good money doing it, you can't fault them, I guess, even though some find that offensive.

 

I am just glad I can look at this site so I can avoid the ones that just want me to pay to service them and find the real gems out there that want to take care of me the paying client. Nothing like Full Service.

[+ glutes]

RE: Different Strokes for Different Folks

 

>>This just goes to show that Different Strokes for Different

>Folks. Obviously a lot of clients are very happy to pay some

>good looking Str8 guy to just suck his cock and be satisfied.

>

You are absolutely right KY.

But the escort should be up front about it being 'service only', or one step beyond body worship. When the 'a la cart' pricing comes out during the session that it is more money to get hard , or shoot a load, I think is unfair to the client. Also the escort using a magazine to get hard - that really detracts from the 'date'.

Different stroke for different folks, or whatever floats your boat.

[VaHawk]

RE: Different Strokes for Different Folks

 

>This just goes to show that Different Strokes for Different Folks. Obviously a lot of clients are very happy to pay some good looking Str8 guy to just suck his cock and be satisfied. A lot of Str8 Escorts and even Bi (I believe many Bi Escorts are actually Str8, they think Gay guys will find the term Bi less offensive and give the Client the thought that he might get more) do very well by getting paid to just get serviced and they think they are doing the guy a favor. As long as they can make good money doing it, you can't fault them, I guess, even though some find that offensive.>

 

Hey KY, this is a very astute observation on your part, as we see it advertised all the time on the non-hire sites. Speaking only for myself, I am sometimes interested in nothing more than orally servicing a hot man, str8t, bi or gay and in those instances they are indeed doing I hope "both of us a favor". and when I'm in that mood and he performs as agreed upon, I am definitely satisfied.

:o

[KY_TOP]

RE: Different Strokes for Different Folks

 

>But the escort should be up front about it being 'service

>only', or one step beyond body worship. When the 'a la cart'

>pricing comes out during the session that it is more money to

>get hard , or shoot a load, I think is unfair to the client.

 

I agree. Also, I believe that any Escort that Advertises on Rentboy, print or wherever should state if they are Str8 and plainly communicate what they will or will not do with the client before meeting. Many clients are nervous when making arrangements and therefore fail to communiacte well with the Escort about what they expect before hand. Because of that nervousness they are also left open about how to deal with 'a la cart' pricing or when other unexpected Escort actions occur. We see it here a lot when people ask if they should have paid, not paid, partial paid, when things are not as promised.

 

>Also the escort using a magazine to get hard - that really

>detracts from the 'date'.

 

I think it would be time to say Good bye when a magazine comes out, and then I guess it would be down to arguing about what, if anything, to pay him.

 

>Different stroke for different folks, or whatever floats your

>boat.

 

As I've said before, many guys (like Hawk ) enjoy servicing a Str8 guy. If they didn't, there wouldn't be so many str8 guys out there to service and making good $ to do it. Just not my cup of tea. But then again rimming wasn't my cup of tea either until I met the right guy that turned me on to it. Maybe I haven't met the right str8 guy yet?

 

But I will admit, str8 guys taking advantage of gay guys is a "Pet Peeve" of mine. Maybe it is because I met the notorious Kirk on my first trip to Remington's in Toronto a few years ago before I even knew this place existed. Our experiences in life help create our opinions and he definitely created a negative one in me. I realize there are plenty of Gay Escorts out there that also are not my cup of tea and rip people off. Don't want to seem to be bashing all the str8 or Bi guys out there.

 

As I've said many times before, I am very glad we have this site so we can be warned of the Kirk's out there and make decisions if the Anthony's or Aaron's are our cup of tea.

[AaronWestin]

RE: I Love Fraud, Part II

 

Glutes, you are one of the primary reasons why I stopped posting on the message center. I also know of one other that also has done the same thinks you are one of the more negative people on the site.

YOu must feel comfy now thinking I went away. Well you are way off base pal and the fact that you were caught in a lie months ago claiming that I was a short, and slobbishly dressed bloak with a beerbelly doesn't say much for you. I was also informed by several friends that I have met (one of whom met you) in the MC that you are in fact a nut.

As for my own defense which doesn't make a difference for me as I will be exiting the business shortly. Alot of people call me for a str8 boy fantasy that they want to have filled. Alot of men like to service a hot str8 guy. I don't even claim to be str8 or gay as I am a firm believer in non-catigorization when referencing sexuality. I have been in relationships with both sexes before. I am by no means str8 and by no means gay. So I guess I am in Limbo.

I have topped many clients and if you go by every review that you read when deciding whether to hire an escort think again. Chemistry amongst clients/escorts is soooooo important. The escorts as well as the clients demeanor at the time of the session accounts for alot.

I had a death in the family not too long ago and due to extenuating circumstances I couldn't attend the funeral. How well did I perform that day?? I still think fine although I was probably a little under the weather. What I'm trying to say is there are ripoff escorts and there are escorts who are fat, beer bellied and use incredibly hot studs pics to lure in unsuspecting clients (Right Glutes/Def'n Glutes in the Webster Dictionary- :+ )

I am flying to Florida in the morning and have to leave early so I have to cut this short, but I will say for the record that I don't perform oral, I don't bottom and I will kiss, but I am sometimes picky about who I kiss. Bad breath, Cold sores scratchy beards are a cause for me to back off in the kissing department. As for the reciprication with clients. I top (Read my review from a very very credible reviewer.) I am upfront with what I do and don't do.

Sometimes clients come in expecting miracles. Come on, look at the situation. I won't lie, sometimes it's not enjoyable. Sometimes people, make you feel like a real piece of shit. Other times, people make me feel like a god. Chemistry for me is very important and it makes or breaks a situation. My advice to anyone hiring an escort. Call him and spend a little bit of time getting to know him. See for yourself if he is the right guy for you.

As for you GLUTES, I have come to the conclusion that you feel important being part of a drama infused thread. You love attention. So I guess I just gave it to you.........xoxo

P.S And yes I may have chosen the wrong business for the wrong reasons. I don't regret it as I have met many great friends that I will never forget.

Aaron Westin

[woodlawn]

RE: I Love Fraud, Part II

 

>Glutes, you are one of the primary reasons why I stopped

>posting on the message center. I also know of one other that

>also has done the same thinks you are one of the more negative

>people on the site.

 

The reason some escorts stop posting here is that they have never succeeded in understanding the difference between a message board on which clients exchange opinions about escorts and a website for escort ads. They just can't seem to get it through their heads that the clients who don't care for them have the same right to express opinions as the clients who do. Why is that? It seems simple enough to me.

 

>Chemistry amongst clients/escorts is soooooo important.

>The escorts as well as the clients demeanor at the time of the

>session accounts for alot.

 

That may be your opinion. My opinion is that chemistry is important if one is going on a date, but that when one is paying an escort to entertain he should either do so regardless of the "chemistry" of the situation or, if he feels he can't do so, decline the appointment and the client's money.

 

> As for you GLUTES, I have come to the conclusion that you

>feel important being part of a drama infused thread. You love

>attention.

 

And the reason you've started a bunch of threads on this message center is because you DON'T want people to pay attention to you, right?

[+ deej]

RE: VHS or DVD

 

>(I recently saw Anthony in Ryker's Web, where he bottoms for

>Ken. Ouch.)

 

Holloway told me the most frustrating part of that shoot was that by the time he'd relaxed enough to really start enjoying the stuffing the scene was over.

[Guest gentle guy]

RE: VHS or DVD

 

AH actually pulls away when initially penetrated by Ryker. However, I imagine being topped by a "straight" guy with a long dick that never really seems to get completely hard must be unpleasant. I repeat, ouch.

[+ glutes]

RE: I Love Fraud, Part II

 

>Glutes, you are one of the primary reasons why I stopped

>posting on the message center. I also know of one other that

>also has done the same thinks you are one of the more negative

>people on the site.

 

Actually, I am quite up-beat in my posts. Except when it comes to you and BushCo.

 

> YOu must feel comfy now thinking I went away. Well you are

>way off base pal and the fact that you were caught in a lie

>months ago claiming that I was a short, and slobbishly dressed

>bloak with a beerbelly doesn't say much for you. I was also

>informed by several friends that I have met (one of whom met

>you) in the MC that you are in fact a nut.

 

I am a certified nut, card carrying. I'd rather be a nut than normal anyday.

As far as my 'lie', it was your 3 time fuck-up that got you on my negative side.

-Strike One: Make an appointment with your former-ego "Mark of Austin", arrive at said time and hotel room only to be greeted by said 'slobbishly dressed bloak with a beer belly'. Actually this turned to be one of the other 3 rentboys 'Vince' working out of the same room. By your own admission, he didn't have the same genetic make-up.

-Strike Two: Call you back to ask you what in the world is going on, (maybe a rough night of beer and booger-sugar mixed things up a bit? I can understand) I was met by your monotone, non-glib (nor apologetic) explanation that bodered on bloody-rudeness.

-Strike Three: You wanted to meet me on a street corner to sort things out after I posted my findings here on the MC, (that you weren't as pictured, and there was type of scam going on at the Hilton. Did I name which of the 3 Hiltons, or room number you were in?? No.) My days of meeting tricks on street corners is looooong gone.

 

>As for my own defense which doesn't make a difference for me

>as I will be exiting the business shortly. Alot of people call

>me for a str8 boy fantasy that they want to have filled. Alot

>of men like to service a hot str8 guy. I don't even claim to

>be str8 or gay as I am a firm believer in non-catigorization

>when referencing sexuality. I have been in relationships with

>both sexes before. I am by no means str8 and by no means gay.

>So I guess I am in Limbo.

 

In Limbo?? When was it that you danced at the Gaiety???

 

> As for you GLUTES, I have come to the conclusion that you

>feel important being part of a drama infused thread. You love

>attention. So I guess I just gave it to you.........xoxo

 

I am a 'nut', not a DramaQueen. And you just kissed me!!

 

> P.S And yes I may have chosen the wrong business for the

>wrong reasons. I don't regret it as I have met many great

>friends that I will never forget.

> Aaron Westin

 

Well if you do go into the brokerage business, I wish you well.

glutes

[+ deej]

RE: VHS or DVD

 

Ouch either way.

 

Ryker DOES sometimes get hard. See his first scene in RIKER'S REVENGE. He ravages Steve Harper with no hands and seeing the big guy slide in and out with no hands is a pretty awesome scene.

 

But, yeah, ouch. Even soft a dick that size is ... ummm ... ouch.