Escorts with Long Dance Cards

[axebahia]

>No, I'm just not on here to sell my ass, I'm on here to share

>my honest opinions, not to play to the crowd.

 

I think you have hit the nail on the head. There are some escorts who fool themselves and some clients into thinking that they are selling more than their ass. If I want a friend, I go next door. If I want a pyschologist, I ask Jackhammer for a referral. If I want an escort, I am not looking for a "companion" - what ever that is.

 

>One of the things I've really attracted me to escorting was

>NOT having to cater to high-maintenance clients and having the

>luxury of NOT ever seeing them again.

 

Oh, yes, what high maintenance - imagine having to schedule appointments at times that are convenient to your clients! What a luxury it must be to run a ticketron franchise for lonely old men with no self-esteem instead.

[Guest Yog-Sothoth]

>>Some of us need to be very organized in our lives. Some of

>>us just are.

>>

>I, on th, other hand, hire escorts for sex, not companionship

>- though a good companion improves the sex, no doubt. And

>since I hire to fill a physical, not psychological need or

>desire, I don't need or desire to schedule in advance. My own

>dance card is quite full and active, and there is no way that

>I could commit to an escort with certainty two months in

>advance. The idea of scheduling important business meetings

>around the schedule of a whore is so foreign to me, and if it

>ever ceases to be so, I hope that I will still have the

>strength to give it up before I join the legions of pathetic,

>old farts who appear to populate this Board.

 

 

In other words, you are a egotistical, narrow-minded asshole.

[axebahia]

>In other words, you are a egotistical, narrow-minded asshole.

 

No, I am just a consumer who knows when I want to buy apples, when I want to buy pears, and when I can choose to pick apricots from my own damn garden or simply yell over the fence and see if my neighbor wants to share his apricots. Hire an escort for sex, hire a psycologist if you need one, and hire "meals on wheels" if you are lonely and want some company while you inhale your mashed potatos and mashed turnips or what ever else your false teeth and acid reflex disease permit you to eat.

[Bilbo]

Later this morning, if I still think that it is worth it to put points against my karma, I will be cursing you. Quit insulting my particular client - who is not such a ludite as to need a phone call. We do that by email. And do continue to reiterate your insults against clients on this board whom I have not had the honor to meet but whom I consider a ring of my friends. You are to honor our path, just as are to honor yours. We are different, but we can respect each other.

 

Yes, your views seem inconsistent to me. You want escorts to act like respectable professionals, but you with to treat them without respect and insult their profession and their clients. I really don't feel like you're going to be able to combine those two thoughts effectively. And I have gotten tired of watching you try to juggle them.

 

And I no longer believe that you ever met with an escort who had tried to commit suicide. You allow yourself to look like a chain jiggler, and there are certain chains I have no interest in you jiggling.

 

And I realize, looking at other people whom I respect trying to lower themselves (unsuccesfully) to your level - particularly JeffOH - that I am only wasting wind and looking a fool. Sow's ears can be made into sporans, but not, usually, from a distance.

 

Bear in mind that if I do decide to curse you, you will need to ask in public for me to remove it. ;-)

[+ Lucky]

Jim, I thought you were trimming your pubic hair on Monday night.

[axebahia]

>Yes, your views seem inconsistent to me. You want escorts to

>act like respectable professionals, but you with to treat them

>without respect and insult their profession and their clients.

>I really don't feel like you're going to be able to combine

>those two thoughts effectively. And I have gotten tired of

>watching you try to juggle them.

 

I have great respect for escorts who are proud of their profession and do not purport to be psychologists or paid companions, but good-old fashioned whores. I am sceptical about escorts who want to sell something other than sex, and seek the respect that is due to a profession to which they do not belong. Got it? I respect clients who have the courage to know that they are paying for sex and who want to encourage good business practices in the escort profession. I have no respect for clients who lack self-esteem and who act like fawning dogs for aging or manipulative ticketron escorts, and who by doing bring down the standards of a worthy profession. Got it?

[Bilbo]

One does not have to love, in every sense of the word, everyone. Lord knows I'm not sure that I love you sometimes. But one should respect everyone, even one's enemies, all the time.

 

At 11:00 AM, September 29, I lit a black, leather scented candle in front of the altar in my room which has been blessed by many men finding their needs met there, my workroom, as it were. First I prayed a bit selfishly, that you would, for my sake, be blessed with a more open mind and the ability and desire to say what you do say in kinder ways. Then I did pray for a blessing on you which if you do not flow with it you might perceive more as a curse, the one I promised you. However, I can assure you that there are those around here who would welcome it as a blessing. And if what goes around comes around, I wouldn't mind having this come back and land on me.

 

Every time you become aware of an attractive man your tits will tingle in an enjoyable but not controllable way. This will build in intensity until either you or someone else pinches them. And you will be aware of at least three men passing slowly by you each day whom you will find very attractive.

 

Please let me know if you find yourself fondling your own tits in public. Or, if you do do that already sometimes, please let me know if you find yourself doing it more often. I'd also love to hear about it if you find yourself asking others, including unpaid strangers, to pinch them for you. Happy tits to you!

[axebahia]

All of this for critiquing escorts with long dance cards, and clients who encourage them? My, I seem to have touched a raw (tit) nerve!}(

[Bilbo]

No, handsome, this was not for the original posting in this thread. This was for being abusively insulting against one of my regular clients and against other client types on these boards whom I respect. In fact, if you reread the thread, my response to your original thread's idea was to bring quietly forward an instance which I felt refuted it and on which I wanted your opinion. At that point yuo turned abusive. Happy tits to you!

[axebahia]

>No, handsome, this was not for the original posting in this

>thread. This was for being abusively insulting against one of

>my regular clients and against other client types on these

>boards whom I respect. In fact, if you reread the thread, my

>response to your original thread's idea was to bring quietly

>forward an instance which I felt refuted it and on which I

>wanted your opinion. At that point yuo turned abusive.

 

How does telling me that you have a client that schedules a regular appointment for you for which he needs a reminder refute anything that I said about escorts with long dance cards? And if you ask me what I think, and I tell you that I think it is weird, why are you so shocked and outraged?

[axebahia]

>No, handsome, this was not for the original posting in this

>thread. This was for being abusively insulting against one of

>my regular clients and against other client types on these

>boards whom I respect. In fact, if you reread the thread, my

>response to your original thread's idea was to bring quietly

>forward an instance which I felt refuted it and on which I

>wanted your opinion. At that point yuo turned abusive.

 

How does telling me that you have a client that schedules a regular appointment for you for which he needs a reminder refute anything that I said about escorts with long dance cards? And if you ask me what I think, and I tell you that I think it is weird, why are you so shocked and outraged?

[chrismac]

>I have great respect for escorts who are proud of their

>profession and do not purport to be psychologists or paid

>companions, but good-old fashioned whores. I am sceptical

>about escorts who want to sell something other than sex, and

>seek the respect that is due to a profession to which they do

>not belong. Got it? I respect clients who have the courage

>to know that they are paying for sex and who want to encourage

>good business practices in the escort profession. I have no

>respect for clients who lack self-esteem and who act like

>fawning dogs for aging or manipulative ticketron escorts, and

>who by doing bring down the standards of a worthy profession.

>Got it?

 

Axebahia - you seem to make a lot of judgments and assumptions about these escort and clients you refer to above. It reminds me of something my mother said to me when we were driving through a very wealthy neighborhood in the city where I grew up, and I was making assumptions and judgments about the inhabitants therein. After a few minutes of my diatribe, she said, "How do YOU know?"

 

And furthermore, why does it bother you? Who cares why other people hire escorts, or how some escorts advertise themselves? If a client wants to set up appointments in advance and get friendly reminders of these appointments from the escort (who even himself said it seemed odd at first), what difference does that make to you? And if you don't prefer to hire an escort because he purports to be a "companion" or is friendly or intelligent, or has brown eyes, or whatever, then you can find another. I myself tend to steer clear of escorts who spend a great amount of time in their ads describing their education, or the fact that they believe themselves to be the hottest and best creatures on the planet, but some people might find that to be attractive, and that's their business. Has nothing to do with me.

[chrismac]

>I have great respect for escorts who are proud of their

>profession and do not purport to be psychologists or paid

>companions, but good-old fashioned whores. I am sceptical

>about escorts who want to sell something other than sex, and

>seek the respect that is due to a profession to which they do

>not belong. Got it? I respect clients who have the courage

>to know that they are paying for sex and who want to encourage

>good business practices in the escort profession. I have no

>respect for clients who lack self-esteem and who act like

>fawning dogs for aging or manipulative ticketron escorts, and

>who by doing bring down the standards of a worthy profession.

>Got it?

 

Axebahia - you seem to make a lot of judgments and assumptions about these escort and clients you refer to above. It reminds me of something my mother said to me when we were driving through a very wealthy neighborhood in the city where I grew up, and I was making assumptions and judgments about the inhabitants therein. After a few minutes of my diatribe, she said, "How do YOU know?"

 

And furthermore, why does it bother you? Who cares why other people hire escorts, or how some escorts advertise themselves? If a client wants to set up appointments in advance and get friendly reminders of these appointments from the escort (who even himself said it seemed odd at first), what difference does that make to you? And if you don't prefer to hire an escort because he purports to be a "companion" or is friendly or intelligent, or has brown eyes, or whatever, then you can find another. I myself tend to steer clear of escorts who spend a great amount of time in their ads describing their education, or the fact that they believe themselves to be the hottest and best creatures on the planet, but some people might find that to be attractive, and that's their business. Has nothing to do with me.

[axebahia]

>And furthermore, why does it bother you? Who cares why other

>people hire escorts, or how some escorts advertise themselves?

>If a client wants to set up appointments in advance and get

>friendly reminders of these appointments from the escort (who

>even himself said it seemed odd at first), what difference

>does that make to you? And if you don't prefer to hire an

>escort because he purports to be a "companion" or is friendly

>or intelligent, or has brown eyes, or whatever, then you can

>find another.

 

I don't know how many different ways I can answer this question, but I'll try again. The reason is that I think these sycophantic clients distort the market and encourage bad escort practices thus rendering otherwise available escorts unavailable.

[axebahia]

>And furthermore, why does it bother you? Who cares why other

>people hire escorts, or how some escorts advertise themselves?

>If a client wants to set up appointments in advance and get

>friendly reminders of these appointments from the escort (who

>even himself said it seemed odd at first), what difference

>does that make to you? And if you don't prefer to hire an

>escort because he purports to be a "companion" or is friendly

>or intelligent, or has brown eyes, or whatever, then you can

>find another.

 

I don't know how many different ways I can answer this question, but I'll try again. The reason is that I think these sycophantic clients distort the market and encourage bad escort practices thus rendering otherwise available escorts unavailable.

[Bilbo]

Squirm all you want, little one.

 

It is an instance of someone not only making one appointment in advance but a string of many of them with no end in sight at the moment. This is a situation he is very happy with. Perhaps foolishly, I wanted to see if your reaction to this might kick start the opening mechanism on your mind. Or a reasoned and reasonable response. I certainly didn't realize that I would be subjecting not myself but my client to a venomous attack. Which, of course, as I have said, is something I will not stand for. Attack me all you want, little grasshopper. Leave your venom for me alone and not for my charges.

 

Well, it seems to me that this is a ditto of something I've said above. So, I'm not going to say it again. If you ask me to, you'll reach silence. If you apologize or ask me to remove the curse, you'll find that I am indeed listening.

[Bilbo]

Sycophantic? Happy tits to you!

[chrismac]

>I don't know how many different ways I can answer this

>question, but I'll try again. The reason is that I think

>these sycophantic clients distort the market and encourage bad

>escort practices thus rendering otherwise available escorts

>unavailable.

 

Yes, upon re-reading your post I can see that. But in that case, I think you're facing a daunting uphill battle; there are always going to be people who rave about this escort, or that restaurant (to coin another analogy used in this thread), and I don't see that ending. Nor do I think it needs to have any affect in your hiring decisions. Similarly, one could point out the rise in prices for escorts in many locations, and bemoan the fact that there seems to be a long line to pay that, but it is what it is. Just another facet of the escort business to deal with.

 

I don't think I'd choose this particular hill to die on.

[btmstudnyc]

RE: Smart ass

 

Ok, Halloween decor is up and my pumpkin carving party is over...so I have a few days available until Thanksgiving....those decorations arent as involved...

 

JIM

 

and Lucky...the shaving is on Monday nights...but you keep saying your mother died and not showing up for it.

 

 

If it dont fit, force it

btmstudnyc@aol.com

[guptasa1]

I'm a little confused by why people object to making an appointment in advance with an escort. (I will admit I haven't read this whole thread yet since it's so long, but I plan to.)

 

I live in a very small town, and frankly, there aren't many escorts in the immediate, or even not-so-immediate area. Many of those who are around just aren't my type. So, if I want to book an escort, usually some significant travel is involved, generally on both my part and the escorts.

 

Because of this fact, shorter appointments just aren't plausible for me, and I like to schedule appointments I do make well in advance. I don't know necessarily that the escort is booked completely up until the date we arrange, but it takes time to get things planned out. Additionally, at this time in my life, an occasional evening with an escort is something I *really* look forward to, and I've noticed if I have something planned in advance, it has a very positive psychological effect on me - it's something definite planned in the future to anticipate. Things like that make the time leading up to the experience go better for me.

 

Also, sometimes it's nice to know a little while in advance to, say, not masturbate a few days before the encounter to make it more intense, etc. It also gives the escort more time to prepare for the encounter if they want to.

 

There are drawbacks to booking in advance (one of you could get sick or something could unexpectantly come up), but there are certainly advantages as well in my opinion. And location is definitely an important factor.

[chrismac]

Good point gupta - I can see both sides of the coin.

 

When I was living in Russia, I decided to have my first sexual experience with a man. But I didn't want to do it in my hometown (Moscow) for a variety of reasons, so I chose a weekend and decided to look around Europe for my "type". I found a guy who fit the description I was look for in Berlin (Andreas). Only problem, he didn't want to book in advance. OK, that's cool - but I wasn't so enthusiastic about booking a trip to Berlin on the off chance he might be available. Through several emails he still didn't want to commit, stating that I should call him once I arrived to see if he was available. I arranged the trip anyway (figuring I could always find something fun to do in Berlin regardless), and fortunately he was available and everything was fine.

 

Later, having moved to California, I emailed an escort (Steve Pierce) in the morning, asking about his availability that evening. I got a very terse reply stating that he NEVER booked clients on such short notice, suggesting I try elsewhere. I did.

 

I was left feeling that escorts should understand that not all other escorts employ the same policies regarding time of booking - and that they should realize that clients receive mixed messages depending on the escort in question. If their website doesn't state anything about booking in advance, how would I know? Each escort is free to choose how they want to be booked, of course, but shouldn't become frustrated with those who wish to book in advance, or at the last minute, as there are many escorts out there that have their own policies that require booking either way.

[+ Lucky]

I actually have an appointment with an escort scheduled (bottomstud) for my 75th birthday, and that's scheduling 20 years ahead!

[guptasa1]

Okay - I've (finally) finished reading this whole thread, so I'm going to comment on a few things. Sorry I'm commenting a bit late, but I'm new to the boards, so I thought I'd post my opinion as this is an interesting (and surprising to me) thread.

 

All I think it comes down to is a MUTUAL respect for each other's time. I certainly understand last minute bookings - my first real time with an escort I called an agency because I happened to be in a city and just decided it was something I wanted to try. It was the middle of the day, and I actually had to stay an extra day to get the guy I wanted to be with since he wasn't available that night, but it was worth it to me and I had a great time. I didn't and still don't see this as a problem. He wasn't available, and in my mind, that's MY problem since I didn't check in advance. But we worked something out that benefited us both.

 

However, now that I know I enjoy being with escorts, I do like to book in advance so I know I can be with the person I choose and so that I can plan things out ahead of time (plus the reasons listed in my previous post). It also allows some communication beforehand and sometimes helps to tell if there's a fit there.

 

Yes, I'm the type of client who looks for more than JUST sex with an escort. I do try to keep it in perspective, and I realize I can't expect a connection with every escort I try, but I do look for a genuine fondness for each other and emotional connection, because that happens to be important to me. I don't think there's anything wrong with that as long as it's kept in perspective. And yes, I'm also the type that, when I find someone who really is a good fit for me, wants to regularly see them AND be a friend if possible.

 

As far as the argument that "ticketron" escorts, as they've been called here, distort the market and promote bad business practices, I couldn't disagree more and would instead argue that advance booking is indeed the norm for a large number of escorts, and the perception that it is NOT normal or promotes bad business practace is itself a distortion of reality rooted in the illusion that escorts must completely give up all control to the potential client. No offense, but this seems ludicrous to me. I DO believe escorts should try to accomodate their clients as much as possible since they are providing a service, but that doesn't mean the client can get away with anything, including abusing the escort and not showing him respect for his time AND anything he chooses to do. It's akin to, say, hiring someone to landscape your yard, and telling them you want them to start immediately that night and work until morning. Try it sometime - see what the response you get is.

 

Yes, there are escorts who do last-minute calls, and there's nothing wrong with that - it's what they choose to do. But there are also escorts (sometimes the same ones) who do advance bookings because it's more convenient for BOTH the escort AND the client. As long as both agree, there isn't a problem, and it's mutually beneficial. So it seems the only problem expressed by people who don't like this practice is that they can't get the guys they want on short notice. Well, that's just the way things work in my mind.

 

If this was truly a bad business practice and a distortion of the market, it would disappear. But the fact is, the market seems to be doing just fine with advance bookings, and even from the responses here, it's fairly evident that most people don't seem to have a problem with it.

[AdamSmith]

Yogi Berra observed:

 

Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.

[seaboy4hire]

I think that people forget that even though we are escorts we are not sex machines well some of aren't and we do have lives, i.e. family, friends day jobs and even a hobby or two that we like to partake in. If one doesn't like to wait (and sometimes waiting can lead up to a more intense and enjoyable encounter) then move on to the next cute boy. Heaven knows cute boys are a dime a dozen. Remember there is always someone cutier and younger or whatever your taste maybe just around the corner.

 

Hugs,

Greg

Greg Seattle Wa seaboy4hire@yahoo.com

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/gregseattle.html