Escorts with Long Dance Cards

[btmstudnyc]

I just can't see how an escort who works that

>much can be fresh for each new encounter.

 

How long does it take you to get fresh again after sex? Don't you ever do round two or round three yourself?

 

Also, some guys have other jobs and their...ah...REAL LIFE.

 

For myself...I never work a Saturday or Sunday unless it is an overnight or long session or if I am travelling. You have to draw the line somewhere. Some escorts travel every week to a different destination. In NYC..that's easy to do. Philly, Boston, DC, CT, NJ...all accessible within hours. So..while I may not be booked everyday, 4 times a day...It may seem like my dance card IS full, but not with escort work.

 

Sometimes fresh as a Daisy...or just plain fresh....call me if you want to meat by Thanksgiving...I do have to put up Halloween Decorations, take them down, put up Thanksgiving, take them down, then Christmas decorations, baking cookies, Parties to plan, Parties to go too.....damn how about Monday night..IM available.

JIM

 

 

If it dont fit, force it

btmstudnyc@aol.com

[Bilbo]

OK - No serious consideration to my question. But then, what could I expect from someone who is at the same time complaining that escorts aren't acting professionally and saying that we're "just whores." Which do you want, he asked, not expecting a considered answer, professional action or "whoredom", which you seem to think precludes professionalism?

[jackhammer91406]

Smart ass

 

Jim,

What a pleasure to see your cocky ass (as fresh as any daisy) back here after so long an absence. Please make sure you double wrap my Christmas cookies before shipping them. See you in May.

 

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[ncc1701d]

>>I too don't get how this encourages bad service practices?

>>Several well-reviewed escorts here have websites/newsletter

>>that announces travel plans well in advance...so why not

>plan

>>ahead and get EXACTLY what you want... :9

>

>Do you schedule all of your leisure activities 2 months or 2

>years in advance: E.g., "I think I will go see that Hollywood

>blockbuster that hasn't yet been produced when it is released

>in London on March 31, 2006"?

 

That is neither a reasonable nor realistic example. We are talking about escorts who are escorting NOW, not guys who may become escorts in a few months/years. I just booked my favourite guy for an extended stay several weeks ago 2 months in advance of our date. This allowed me to find/capitalize on airline seat sales, better hotel rates, and filled his dance card with my name....and judging by our emails thus far, his card is certainly filling fast and others are having to work around ME so I'm VERY GLAD I PLANNED AHEAD }(

[Flower]

>Well, I guess your experience with restaurants and escorts has

>been different from mine.

I'm sure it is on both counts----hmmm, wonder why?

[axebahia]

>OK - No serious consideration to my question.

 

I did consider it seriously. I don't understand the idea of scheduling in advance an escort at precisely the same time every week. I think the client has a problem and needs help. Does that sound like normal behaviour to you?

[axebahia]

>Some of us need to be very organized in our lives. Some of us

>just are.

 

There are times on this Board when I feel rather strongly that the responses I read say more about clients than escorts. I never understood the fawning over Bruno even where his reviews and behavior here disclosed practices that I would have regarded as negative. Similarly, I can't help but think that guys scheduling in advance to meet a hot young stud are a bunch of pathetic, old and lonely men so desperate for attention and affection that they must schedule a whore months in advance. For these poor souls, the escort is doing them a favor, not the other way around. As long as such cretins abound, I suppose these enterprising young whores are right to exploit it.

 

I, on th, other hand, hire escorts for sex, not companionship - though a good companion improves the sex, no doubt. And since I hire to fill a physical, not psychological need or desire, I don't need or desire to schedule in advance. My own dance card is quite full and active, and there is no way that I could commit to an escort with certainty two months in advance. The idea of scheduling important business meetings around the schedule of a whore is so foreign to me, and if it ever ceases to be so, I hope that I will still have the strength to give it up before I join the legions of pathetic, old farts who appear to populate this Board.

[VaHawk]

Well, you really need to assess what you are looking for in an escort and it is certainly a valid observation on your part that you are not willing to wait ??? months to get with an escort, however it is not valid to diss those clients that feel otherwise. It is even less valid to denigrate an escort just because he is popular and not available at the time you wish.

 

As Flower said, in these cases, you have to wait your turn just like everyone else. As long as the escort is truthful with you as to when he is available to meet with you, it is really mystifying as to why you would not understand this, and really inexcusable of you to cast aspersions on his professionalism and "freshness".

 

If I discover an escort that I truly want to meet, I will gladly wait to meet him when he is available to do so, as meeting him is the driving force and if he is someone I have been with before and want to see again, then I understand his situation and I would hope that he understands mine and we can both come to an agreement that is respectful and beneficial to both of us.

 

In other words, if he is someone I truly want to know, I don't mind in the least that I have to arrange a meeting months in advance because I would rather wait to meet him than to get an attitude and dismiss him as that would defeat the whole purpose of my wanting to have him be a part of my life's experiences.

 

BTW: Your not so subtle allusions are not fooling any of us.

[axebahia]

>BTW: Your not so subtle allusions are not fooling any of us.

>

 

Not sure what allusions you are referring to. This is just a generic comment about an issue that has mystified me for some time. If you recall, I made the same point about Mr. Bruno, and then I thought you were on my side. Are you playing favorites (again)? (I also don't understand these Hooville meetings, but I suspect they have the same psychological and emotional defficiencies at their source. At some point I might start a thread about that, but I am just forming it now.)

[VaHawk]

>Not sure what allusions you are referring to.

 

Oh come on axe!!! You know exactly what I am referring to, but I will not mention names as Flower did. After all, you did private me about the individual. If it is not the same individual, then please accept my apologies for my misinterpretation.

 

>This is just a generic comment about an issue that has mystified me for some time. If you recall, I made the same point about Mr. Bruno,

>and then I thought you were on my side. Are you playing

>favorites (again)?

 

Axe, I of all people who post here, have staunchily respected your right to express your opinions, and even though we have virulently disagreed on points (e.g. the Confederate flag boy), I have always respected you as an intelligent person with a lot to offer. I really don't understand what your point about the dance card has to do with BG, as we both know that was a big marketing hype by people with ulterior motives. The comment about playing favorites only reinforces my thoughts about who the escort is that you are referring to, as I am often accused of being his cheerleader.

 

>(I also don't understand these Hooville

>meetings, but I suspect they have the same psychological and

>emotional defficiencies at their source. At some point I

>might start a thread about that, but I am just forming it

>now.)

 

Please start a thoughtful, non-confrontational thread, as I believe you and I have a very similar opinion on this issue.

[axebahia]

>Oh come on axe!!! You know exactly what I am referring to, but

>I will not mention names as Flower did. After all, you did

>private me about the individual. If it is not the same

>individual, then please accept my apologies for my

>misinterpretation.

 

I don't recall doing that, but I accept your apologies because this is a generic post that has been in the works for a while.

 

>I really don't understand what your

>point about the dance card has to do with BG, as we both know

>that was a big marketing hype by people with ulterior motives.

 

At least part of what bothered me about Mr. Bruno was the link between his long dance card and the abusive marketing campaign here.

 

Don't get me wrong, my favorite escort of all time tried to get me to schedule in advance. I always refused, and in the end I always got him when I wanted him. In fact, I admit to cancelling him on occasion at short notice just to underscore the point about whose schedule takes precedence in the event of a conflict.

 

I also admit that I don't like to be batting clean-up. I find that pre-scheduling in advance makes it more likely that I will be slotted into that position in the batting order than when I order on short terms. I understand why the escorts like the ticketron approach. What I don't undertand is why clients tolerate it and/or facilitate it.

[+ Lucky]

RE: Posters with Long Rants Cards

 

Pathetic old farts, poor souls, cretins, whores. Ad rian, just what kind of people do you hang out with?

[axebahia]

RE: Posters with Long Rants Cards

 

>just what kind of people do you hang out with?

 

... apparently with the likes of you, but only indirectly and only on-line from time to time!

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[+ Lucky]

RE: Posters with Long Rants Cards

 

Thank God for that.

[Bilbo]

Well, yes it does. My regular, a very appealing gay man in an open relationship whose husband knows what is happening and has approved of it, seems more put together to me than you do at the moment. He is always who he is. (Whom he is?) You seem to be willing to play both sides of a question to see how much water you can roil. You appear willing to lose your integrity just for the fun of it. (I don't have to believe that you are this way. You may just be very complex.) This client would never do that. He also is a working member of an organization which raises money for charity, and keeps enjoyable traditions alive.

 

In the future, I must put up with you insulting me, but I do not have to put up with insulting my clients. Please never meet me in a dark alley should you do so again. }(

[+ bigjoey]

dear axe,

it seems to me you view hiring an escort a means to show control over someone else and that is why you do not like to "get in line" as that is the escort showing control over his public. you sort of let the cat out of the bag with your comment that you have cancelled on your regular escort a few times at the last moment just to let him know that you control the relationship. people hire for different reasons and yours is as good as any. until that remark about cancelling, i could not figure out why this situtation was such a big deal to you.

 

there are legitimate reasons to cancel an appointment at the last minute with any service provider; however, i think it is petty to do so for no other reason than to just show who is in control. the escort could have turned down other clients or made personal plans if not for your scheduled meeting; to cancel shows a lack of respect for another person. many of the escorts i've know list these last minute cancelations as one of their major complaints and i do not blame them.

[Guest jeffOH]

>there are legitimate reasons to cancel an appointment at the

>last minute with any service provider; however, i think it is

>petty to do so for no other reason than to just show who is in

>control. the escort could have turned down other clients or

>made personal plans if not for your scheduled meeting; to

>cancel shows a lack of respect for another person. many of the

>escorts i've know list these last minute cancelations as one

>of their major complaints and i do not blame them.

 

I have a simple solution for clients who either don't call when they're going to be late OR cancel at the last minute more than a couple of times. I tell them that they'd be better off calling another escort and then I block their number so they can't call me again. I don't play games with my clients and I won't be a part of some pathetic game for them to feel "in control". That's why these sad fucks end up calling up agencies and have to see suicidal escorts. Nobody else would put up with their bullshit.

 

Also, I have clients with whom I have standing appointments and many do set up appointments well in advance. I don't see how such practices can negatively impact an escort's performance in the least.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[axebahia]

RE: Posters with Long Rants Cards

 

>Thank God for that.

 

Don't you mean, Allah, the most merciful and compassionate?

[axebahia]

>there are legitimate reasons to cancel an appointment at the

>last minute with any service provider; however, i think it is

>petty to do so for no other reason than to just show who is in

>control.

 

Obviously, I had a conflicting appointment, but the cancelation at short notice also helped established an important principle. It worked.:-)

[axebahia]

>I don't play games with my clients

>and I won't be a part of some pathetic game for them to feel

>"in control". That's why these sad fucks end up calling up

>agencies and have to see suicidal escorts. Nobody else would

>put up with their bullshit.

 

Have you ever lived in Europe? The thing that most Americans notice about Europe (when they are finished seeing yet another ugly church)is the crappy service culture. When I am paying for a service - any service - I want and expect to be in control, and I want responsive, personalized quality performance. It is no different for escorts. If you disagree, might I suggest you ply your trade in Europe instead.

[axebahia]

>In the future, I must put up with you insulting me, but I do

>not have to put up with insulting my clients. Please never

>meet me in a dark alley should you do so again. }(

 

You asked for my opinion, and you want to get belligerent when I give it to you? Your friend's behavior seems excessive and compulsive, and it is weirder still that you have to call to remind him about your appointments.

[axebahia]

>You seem

>to be willing to play both sides of a question to see how much

>water you can roil. You appear willing to lose your integrity

>just for the fun of it.

 

I am not sure what this refers to. Please explain? I think mypositions here are very consistent.

[Guest jeffOH]

>Have you ever lived in Europe?

 

I have not.

 

>When I am paying

>for a service - any service - I want and expect to be in

>control, and I want responsive, personalized quality

>performance. It is no different for escorts. If you disagree,

>might I suggest you ply your trade in Europe instead.

 

I've 'plied my trade' for a dozen years treating my clients like human beings. I respect them and I expect the same in return. It's worked quite well for me.

 

Trust me, your need to "be in control" does NOTHING to guarantee you a "responsive, personalized quality performance" from any escort. If anything it's a big turnoff and has most definitely figured into my not seeing certain clients because of their condescending attitudes.

 

I've known clients who've gone through practically every escort in town because they can't get anyone to see them more than a few times, if that. They just don't get it, it's them, their shitty, insufferable attitudes that are making them truly ugly. Overweight clients, not the most attractive clients, older clients...bring 'em on! But, I'll pass when it comes to clients who share your client/escort perspective.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[axebahia]

They just don't get it, it's them,

>their shitty, insufferable attitudes that are making them

>truly ugly. Overweight clients, not the most attractive

>clients, older clients...bring 'em on! But, I'll pass when it

>comes to clients who share your client/escort perspective.

 

... spoken like an over the hill rent-boy! I actually have no trouble finding escorts and having many repeat encounters with many of them. You see, Jeff some escorts are not jaded and bitter, and actually want to provide quality services to clients. Others want to run a ticketron booth and cater to pathetic old farts who stand in line for an appointment, and drool themselves to sleep at night. What ever makes you happy, I guess...!

[Guest jeffOH]

>... spoken like an over the hill rent-boy!

 

Actually at 40, I'd say over-the-hill rentMAN.;-) Escorting was my fulltime gig for several years, but is currently limited to mostly regular clients.

 

>I actually have no

>trouble finding escorts and having many repeat encounters with

>many of them.

 

And I have no trouble finding clients and having many repeat encounters with them. Good for both of us, huh?

 

>You see, Jeff some escorts are not jaded and

>bitter

 

No, I'm just not on here to sell my ass, I'm on here to share my honest opinions, not to play to the crowd.

 

One of the things I've really attracted me to escorting was NOT having to cater to high-maintenance clients and having the luxury of NOT ever seeing them again.

 

Life is SO much less stressful for me these days. Fortunately, most of my clients are quite pleasant individuals.

 

>What ever makes you

>happy, I guess...!

 

That's right.

;-)

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com