Escorts with Long Dance Cards

[axebahia]

Am I the only one turned off by escorts whose dance cards are so over-booked that they must be booked 2 months in advance? Or do some clients get off on the idea that a particular escort is in such high demand. Normally, I view scheduling issues like this to be a huge red flag given abailability and choice otherwise, but one escort has recently tempted me to get in line. I just can't see how an escort who works that much can be fresh for each new encounter.

[woodlawn]

>Am I the only one turned off by escorts whose dance cards are

>so over-booked that they must be booked 2 months in advance?

 

I've only ever encountered one escort who interested me who fit that description, and the main reason his schedule was so crowded is that he did a good deal of video work as well.

 

>Or do some clients get off on the idea that a particular

>escort is in such high demand.

 

Maybe. If you live in New York you can't be unfamiliar with the phenomenon of the restaurant that is always crowded despite the fact that getting a table is a huge hassle, prices are outrageous and the staff treat customers like beggars. Instead of avoiding such places like the plague, as sensible people do, there are those who take that as a sign that the establishment MUST be good.

 

>I just can't see how an escort who works that

>much can be fresh for each new encounter.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "fresh." If an escort shows up for an appointment too tired to do anything, that certainly isn't good. But I would call your attention to the fact that some of the most popular escorts on this site have dozens of reviews. Now imagine how often one of them must have sex in order to get that many genuine reviews. Depending on your definition of "fresh," I don't see how anyone who has sex that often can approach it in a "fresh" manner. Would you enjoy chocolate to the same extent you do now if you worked in a chocolate factory? At some point, everything becomes cloying.

[Guest pyell]

About four years ago when I knew I would be visiting New York for a few days, I took a deep breath and booked a session with Aaron Lawrence. I wanted to know what a (relatively) high priced highly recommended and much sought after escort would be like. Could he match the buildup?

 

Well, yes, he could. He was charming, friendly, completely unaffected by his reputation, and treated me as if I was the only client he'd ever had. I still think back on that evening with fondness, and I certainly think it was money well spent.

 

This isn't an Aaron commercial so much as a comment that sometimes a really good professional like that can be worth the wait (and the money).

 

But I'd suggest that some of them aren't, and that forthcoming clients have fallen in lust with the pics rather than the professional ability. It's a case-by-case question, I think.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

This one hit home... had to respond~

 

As much as it pains me (and the guy i'm seeing) to set up future appointments at about two months in advance, i really have no other choice, as most who repeatedly meet with me know that my time goes fast & to jump on anything open ASAP. Thus, i'm left with very little 'last-minute' time.

 

I suppose though that i would rather be booking at several months in advance, not having to scrounge for business at the last minute. I've noticed a recent trend with many escorts who publically post calenders: They're now booked solidly at about a month or more in advance.

 

 

Good for them!

 

 

From experience, it's never been an issue to keep that 'fresh' feeling to my encounters (first-time or otherwise) while having such a full dance-card. As i've always said, if you enjoy what you're doing & the people you see, then burnout never comes into play. More power to you if you can keep a busy schedule and have a great time doing so.

 

 

Warmest Regards,

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Chuck50]

Ben did I tell you that you were fresh lately.. I have been with Ben at least twice and want to many more times. He is a gem in the rough so to speak but getting polished more and more each day. I am always glad to get on the card when I can. I should be planning the next next one with him HUGS Chuck

[axebahia]

>About four years ago when I knew I would be visiting New York

>for a few days, I took a deep breath and booked a session with

>Aaron Lawrence. I wanted to know what a (relatively) high

>priced highly recommended and much sought after escort would

>be like. Could he match the buildup?

>

>Well, yes, he could. He was charming, friendly, completely

>unaffected by his reputation, and treated me as if I was the

>only client he'd ever had. I still think back on that evening

>with fondness, and I certainly think it was money well spent.

 

My only prior experience with an escort with a long dance card and over the top reviews was with Arnaud of Amsterdam/Paris/London. While I thought he was nice, and I had a "good" time, I did not have a "great" time or the "best" time I ever had with an escort. I guess that's why I am leary of this, but as I say there is one tempting me alter my rule on a one off basis.

[axebahia]

>Maybe. If you live in New York you can't be unfamiliar with

>the phenomenon of the restaurant that is always crowded

>despite the fact that getting a table is a huge hassle, prices

>are outrageous and the staff treat customers like beggars.

>Instead of avoiding such places like the plague, as sensible

>people do, there are those who take that as a sign that the

>establishment MUST be good.

 

Agreed. The economics of the phenomenon interests me because usually what happens is that those kind of restaurants burn out relatively quickly. (It is a similar phenomenon to franchising in the case of Gap stores or McDonald stores on every street corner.) So the owners try to maximize the income and profits before the brand becomes saturated. I suspect this is true of escorts too:

 

Hot young thing blasts on to the scene with winning smile and great reviews doing hourly appointments without scheduling "issues", then he graduates from escort to "comforter" or "companion" status with a long dance card, and reviews that are more a function of the last review than the last appointment, then comes a client tempted to make a review based on his actual experience not the last reviewer's experience, then the comforter/companion returns to escort status before retiring to the Caymans if he has not inhaled all of the fruits of his short-term profit maximization strategy.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>So the owners try to maximize the

>income and profits before the brand becomes saturated. I

>suspect this is true of escorts too:

>

>Hot young thing blasts on to the scene with winning smile and

>great reviews doing hourly appointments without scheduling

>"issues", then he graduates from escort to "comforter" or

>"companion" status with a long dance card, and reviews that

>are more a function of the last review than the last

>appointment, then comes a client tempted to make a review

>based on his actual experience not the last reviewer's

>experience, then the comforter/companion returns to escort

>status before retiring to the Caymans if he has not inhaled

>all of the fruits of his short-term profit maximization

>strategy.

 

Very vivid scenario. I don't know many escorts who are this strategic or organized, but I'm sure there are some out there.

 

Another possibility, however, is that the escort has a long dance card because he tightly limits the number of appointments he takes. If he only sees one or two people a day and is a hot new commodity in town, I could see him booking up quite a ways in advance, especially if he fills a high-demand niche in his market.

 

Or he may be wording things a little confusingly or misleadingly (not necessarily deliberately). For instance, I do have people who are already booking appointments in January and February, so it would be possible, by playing up the fact that "clients are booking me months in advance!" to give the impression that you NEED to book me months in advance, when next Tuesday might in fact be free.

 

If your guy is telling you that no, he can't see you till December, it might be worth feeling him out to see why that is. On the whole, though, I'd say the usual signals, like how well you click on the phone, are the best way to judge whether he's worth the delay in scheduling...

[axebahia]

>If your guy is telling you that no, he can't see you till

>December, it might be worth feeling him out to see why that

>is. On the whole, though, I'd say the usual signals, like how

>well you click on the phone, are the best way to judge whether

>he's worth the delay in scheduling...

 

Good point. It has occurred to me that part of the difficulty is that this particular escort with a long dance card has a non-standard locale for his headquarters. I think I may have bumped up against an escort with a long dance card before, but since we were in the same city and had already done an hourly appointment that when I called I got bumped up the cue for a short term encounter. In this case, location and the lack of a prior hourly might make him insist on this ridiculous 2 month delay. Perhaps, if he were based in a known escorting centre, it would not be necesary to have the ticketron approach to scheduling?

 

The other part I don't get is how does a client know with certainty now that he will be horny on January 5th 2004?

[+ bigjoey]

i am guilty of booking escorts a long time out. at my peak, i was hiring several different men and as i hire for weekends or trips, such long range planning was necessary. with business, family events and holidays blocking out some weekends, i would know far in advance what weekends i had available. i wanted to be sure i got my guys in rotation when i would want them. it was not a question of knowing i would be "horney" 5 months from now as being with these men would make me horney.

 

because i am in a relationship, i am down to one escort i've seen for over eight years now (the BF knows about him) and our relationship goes far beyond sex as you can imagine after that period of time. i am booked 5 to 6 months out with him so we fit each others schedules; he has alot of other men who hire him for weekends and trips and they need the long range planning, too.

 

having seen this escorts calendar, i can attest to him being booked solid many times; that does not mean that at other times there might be several days with no one. however, by booking ahead anyone would have the best chance of getting a date.

[axebahia]

>having seen this escorts calendar, i can attest to him being

>booked solid many times; that does not mean that at other

>times there might be several days with no one. however, by

>booking ahead anyone would have the best chance of getting a

>date.

 

Thanks for posting this because it helps me to understand the psychology that I don't really understand. I use escorts to avoid so much of the BS around dating, but the thought of scheduling a date months in advance seems like precisely the kind of BS that I try to avoid by paying. Why are you willing to pay for that hastle?

[+ bigjoey]

the first part of my post explains why i book ahead: i book for weekends or travel trips; this can not be done at the last minute. airfares are cheaper if done at least 30 days ahead; theater tickets can be readily available if ordered far ahead for good seats (i like alot of off broadway and broadway shows and the good ones sellout quickly); my free weekends are limited as i wrote by business travel, holidays and family events; if i want to work in "escort time" it just needs to be booked as far in advance as possible to be sure i get the time i want. it is not a hassle, just an organized, business like approach.

 

from what i know, other people who plan on taking an escort on a long trip or hire for a holiday week/weekend do as i do. i have a wedding next labor day weekend and it is not unusual for weddings to be scheduled that far in advance. business conferences are often scheduled years in advance(my trade association is out about 5 years). certain holidays are held every year at certain family members' homes. etc. it is not a hassle or a problem for me to book an escort a few months out, if you feel differently, then don't hire in advance. sorry, but i do not see the big deal.

[axebahia]

>if i want to work in "escort time" it just needs to be

>booked as far in advance as possible to be sure i get the time

>i want. it is not a hassle, just an organized, business like

>approach.

 

Perhaps, it is a function of the business you are in. It is virtually impossible for me to say 2 months ahead exactly where I will be and what I will be doing. I also don't take escorts with me on business trips, conventions etc.

 

If I am away, I can mostly hire locally, if I want to, at a fraction of the cost. So I import only in my "spare" time and only if there is something I want that I can't get locally or in close proximity. Why do I care? Well, I guess it is another example of what I consider to be clients encouraging bad service practices among escorts. I suppose at the end of the day that is a fact of life, and all that the rest of can do is to leave that market niche to the likes of you.

[+ bigjoey]

i'm not sure how booking an escort in advance is "encouraging bad business practices". also, i'm not sure what you mean by "the likes of you". i'm sorry if leading an organized life offends you.

[ncc1701d]

>>if i want to work in "escort time" it just needs to be

>>booked as far in advance as possible to be sure i get the

>time

>>i want. it is not a hassle, just an organized, business like

>>approach.

>

>Perhaps, it is a function of the business you are in. It is

>virtually impossible for me to say 2 months ahead exactly

>where I will be and what I will be doing. I also don't take

>escorts with me on business trips, conventions etc.

 

That may be your case, but others do have business plans that are set up far in advance..in those cases, why risk missing out on someone you really want to see and may not get another chance because you are only in that city for a very short while, with limited "fun" times, and may not go back there ever?!

>

>If I am away, I can mostly hire locally, if I want to, at a

>fraction of the cost. So I import only in my "spare" time and

>only if there is something I want that I can't get locally or

>in close proximity. Why do I care? Well, I guess it is

>another example of what I consider to be clients encouraging

>bad service practices among escorts. I suppose at the end of

>the day that is a fact of life, and all that the rest of can

>do is to leave that market niche to the likes of you.

 

I too don't get how this encourages bad service practices? Several well-reviewed escorts here have websites/newsletter that announces travel plans well in advance...so why not plan ahead and get EXACTLY what you want... :9

[OneFinger]

>...Perhaps, it is a function of the business you are in. It is virtually impossible for me to say 2 months ahead exactly where I will be and what I will be doing...

 

Perhaps I, too, am one of the "unusal" ones. Just a few minutes ago I was e-mailing my regular escort to set up an appointment. Between his schedule and mine, we're looking at a time in NOVEMBER.

 

I don't have the luxuary of NOT scheduling things 2 months ahead. The nature of my job is very structured and organized. I'm currently negotiating with my customer (at their request) to nail down business meetings, technical reviews, and similar things for 2005!

 

I have been in jobs where planning 1 week in advance was a challenge. That's just not within my comfort range and I don't do well with such uncertainty. I know people that are very successful in such environments. You are probably one of them and I envy your ability to "go with the flow". Thank goodness life (like this board) can accommodate such differences. ;-)

[axebahia]

>I too don't get how this encourages bad service practices?

>Several well-reviewed escorts here have websites/newsletter

>that announces travel plans well in advance...so why not plan

>ahead and get EXACTLY what you want... :9

 

Do you schedule all of your leisure activities 2 months or 2 years in advance: E.g., "I think I will go see that Hollywood blockbuster that hasn't yet been produced when it is released in London on March 31, 2006"? As for the fact that some escorts have succeeded in imposing their ticketron business model on a certain class of clients, my point is that if lients were more disciplined those calendars on web sites and newsletters would disappear "faster than a whore on pay day"!

[axebahia]

>also, i'm not sure what you mean by

>"the likes of you". i'm sorry if leading an organized life

>offends you.

 

Well, it may well be that some consumers of ticketron escorts are just trying to organize an otherwise chaotic life on a hyperactive Palm Pilot. However, I bet most who do so are extremely needy emotionally and lack any amount of self-esteem. For Christ sakes, do you see no difference between scheduling a whore and scheduling a business meeting or your next bypass operation?

[Flower]

>Am I the only one turned off by escorts whose dance cards are

>so over-booked that they must be booked 2 months in advance?

>Or do some clients get off on the idea that a particular

>escort is in such high demand. Normally, I view scheduling

>issues like this to be a huge red flag given abailability and

>choice otherwise, but one escort has recently tempted me to

>get in line. I just can't see how an escort who works that

>much can be fresh for each new encounter.

>

>

This is really a funny thread--now you are blaming the escort for being popular! I really don't' get it.

 

the ONLY scheduling "issue" I see you bringing up is caused by the escort having a large following probably cause he is hot, nice and a great escort, all of which are reasons you want him along with all the rest! :+

 

I can see that you might legitimately criticize an escort for missing appointments, being late, over booking and then canceling at the last minute like the airlines overbooking seats, but to merely raise a criticism because you can't see the boi of your choice as soon as you want cause he's the choice of many others also, is ridiculous. Either move on, set your sites lower or wait in line like the rest, but to criticize the escort cause he does such a good job that he is popular is just plain silly and a little selfish--almost spoiled like x(

[Flower]

....oh yeah--on the issue of "FRESHNESS" -- isn't that better addressed by those you actually spend time with the escort, rather than someone complaining cause he can't cut in soon enough? Isn't that what the reviews are for??

 

Seems to me, that when you have a VERY popular escort, who manages to be 'FRESH' despite his obvious popularity, as witnessed by glowing reviews by creditible reviewers, then you got Ben Nicholas...ooops, I mean a real gem :+

[axebahia]

>I can see that you might legitimately criticize an escort for

>Either move on,

>set your sites lower or wait in line like the rest, but to

>criticize the escort cause he does such a good job that he is

>popular is just plain silly and a little selfish--almost

>spoiled like x(

 

Well, I guess your experience with restaurants and escorts has been different from mine. As I said above, my only prior experience with an escort with a long dance card and over the top reviews was underwhelming. This leads me to think that the reviews and long dance card were more a function of the last review than the client's actual experience. In other words, the escort like the rstaurant in such circumstances has less incentive to keep up higher standards. And yes it seems to ne that is a legitimate basis to critique escorts with long dance cards and clients who encourage that particular business practice.

[Bilbo]

So, Axe, this thread keeps making me wonder what you think of escorts with clients who book regularly? What about the kind of client who has an appointment every two weeks, same time, same night of the week? For example, one of my clients comes every other Tuesday night, and not only that, depends on me to email him and remind him of his apppointment. (It felt a bit odd the first few times I did that, but now is just another customer service I enjoy performing.)

[axebahia]

>What about the kind

>of client who has an appointment every two weeks, same time,

>same night of the week? For example, one of my clients comes

>every other Tuesday night, and not only that, depends on me to

>email him and remind him of his apppointment.

 

Sounds like he should see Jackhammer's M.D. and get the same prescription for "happy" pills!

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[Guest Yog-Sothoth]

>Do you schedule all of your leisure activities 2 months or 2

>years in advance: E.g., "I think I will go see that Hollywood

>blockbuster that hasn't yet been produced when it is released

>in London on March 31, 2006"?

 

 

Actually, I do and a lot of them. I went in August to see the musical THE PRODUCERS and bought my ticket in January. I often attend a convention, whose location varies, which deals with a hobby of mine and which is planned three years in advance.

 

Personally, I do not make a lot of extra money and could never afford to have an escort come with me to the theater or even dinner. I could afford to pay for their ticket or dinner, but I could not afford to the Out-Call money on top of that as well.

 

 

>As for the fact that some

>escorts have succeeded in imposing their ticketron business

>model on a certain class of clients, my point is that if

>clients were more disciplined those calendars on web sites and

>newsletters would disappear "faster than a whore on pay day"!

 

 

If someone wants to find an escort on short notice, there are ones available. Personally, I *do* like to plan things in advance. I contacted an escort in mid-August about seeing him in early October. He wasn't sure of his plans for that time, he might have been traveling, but if he would have booked, I would have done so.

 

I told him I would email him in late September and I did. (I wonder if he thought I would not follow-up?) and I made an appointment for about a week ahead.

 

Some of us need to be very organized in our lives. Some of us just are.

[Guest Yog-Sothoth]

>

>Well, it may well be that some consumers of ticketron escorts

>are just trying to organize an otherwise chaotic life on a

>hyperactive Palm Pilot. However, I bet most who do so are

>extremely needy emotionally and lack any amount of

>self-esteem.

 

 

What bullshit. From this alone, I would say YOU seem to be the one with the psychological problems.

 

 

>For Christ sakes, do you see no difference

>between scheduling a whore and scheduling a business meeting

>or your next bypass operation?

 

 

If you want a whore, go pick up one off the street.

 

I have been invited to parties in someone's home several months in advance. A group of about 8 friends know they will be attending a New Year's Eve party each year in my home. The same group also knows we will be going out to a Chinese resturant the evening of the Super Bowl, a tradition which goes back about 10 years.

 

You seem to have a problem with planning for fun in advance. I don't and others do not either. It doesn't mean we cannot have fun on short notice and also that some of our best fun is planned ahead of time.

 

And, guess what? We do have FUN when the time comes!

:+