Brian from Philly

[kjun]

Brian wrote a response to a negative review and it was posted today. Sorry, but it just doesn't sound true. He rambles on with too much apparent BS. Sounds like he got pissed and just left the client high and dry in Chicago.:-(

 

the Cajun

[+ Lucky]

kjun, you heartless honey! This poor boy stood to lose hundreds of dollars the longer he stayed in Chicago. He simply wasn't getting enough business to pay for his hotel room. We assume that when the escorts travel they have a flock of willing newbie clients waiting their plane at the airport. Surely, many do. But looking at the escort travel forum, many of these guys keep bumping their travel posts virtually begging for business. Unseemly as that might be. It just didn't make sense for Brian to stay in Chicago when the business wasn't there.

[MichiganMan]

I can somewhat relate to what happened here. I emailed Smalltown John on a visit he made to Chicago earlier this year. I had to do it twice. When I did finally receive a reply, he stated he was having problems with his email. I understood, told him so, and, since the window for me to plan a trip to Chicago had passed, told him I would try again at a later date. Well, when that later date came, I tried once again, and I had problems with MY email, only he was not as understanding...he politely told me to get lost....seems he didn't buy into the old "what's good for the goose" bit..... I'm sure he has dealt with A LOT of crackpots....but I'm not one of them (of course HE has no way of knowing that), but, however stated there should be a "no-show" category for clients....I agree. I've posted many reviews here..just I'll never be able to meet with John. Oh well...lots of fish in the sea though!!

[kjun]

I concur. There should be a no show for clients to assist escorts in protecting themselves.

 

the Cajun

[kjun]

Well, I read my last post above and it was not clear even to me.

 

What is mean is that escorts should be allowed to list no-show clients on this board in order to warn other escorts.

 

the Cajun

[+ deej]

The response is a little rambling, but the reasoning is sound. He even ran the numbers. He's certainly not the first escort I've heard from recently that cut short a Chicago trip because of no-shows. (What is it with Chicago guys?)

 

I once did a 2-hour session with a well-regarded escort, paid him his two hour rate plus a nice tip, and he quipped "Well, at least the hotel expenses are covered ... let's hope the other guys show up". He later told me that 2 of 4 had flaked, but at least he didn't LOSE money on the trip.

 

When I book a traveling escort, I usually try to get booked early in their stay just in case they cut it short.

 

Cutting a visit short because he's losing money is a perfectly valid reason. How he handles it is open for discussion. Granted, he probably should have notified the client. But if it was a tentative/unconfirmed appointment even that is blurred.

[spiro3]

My 2 cents worth.....

 

I've seen Brian for three overnights so far, and I can vouch for the fact that he does give "110%" to his clients. Plus, he has one of the best bodies in the business:P

 

I thought his response sounded both honest and his reasoning for the most part sound (though he should have at least e-mailed his client with his reasons ASAP). Having been the victim of an expensive (air fare included) no-show myself, I can attest that it ain't a fun experience.

 

I would cast my vote for a client no-show list, as long as it can somehow be verified.

[AaronScottDC]

What happened with Brian and his client in Chicago is the main reason why I don't travel much. It is very difficult to schedule appointments and be sure that they are going to go through as planned. I have a hard enough time doing it right here in DC. I certainly would not want the added expense and stress of trying to recoup my losses of airfare and hotel rooms when on the road. I escort mostly for fun and to earn a few extra bucks. In my mind, it isn't worth it to go through the trails and tribulations of working on the road.

 

Also, I would like to add that the idea of a client "No Show" section is good, but it will never work. The reason why this review site works for escorts is that we have to provide a lot of information about ourselves in the form of email and website addresses, phone numbers and pictures. It is difficult to change this info on a regular basis and therefore we form a certain "identity" that sticks with us. Even if an escort tries to form a new identity to run away from some bad reviews/performances, it isn't too long before everyone knows who they are once again based on their pictures.

 

But, clients do not have to supply this kind of exposure and can easily hide under another name/email address if listed on some kind of "No Show" or "Poor Customer" list. Just look how many times guys in the message center change their handles or review under a different name in order to remain anonymous. So, unfortunately, there is no way for us as escorts to try to weed out the clients who may end up standing us up.

 

Back to Brian again, with as many times as I have read his name in the travel section over the past year, I would bet that this type of thing happens to him a lot. In fact, if you read his reviews, you will see another such incident which happened in Baltimore. As I mentioned before, this is why I choose not to travel much. IMO It is much more of a headache than it is worth.

 

Aaron Scott DC

http://www.erados.com/AaronScottDC

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/aaronscottdc.html

[SmallTownJohn]

Howdy from DC,

 

I received an email this morning from I guess the contributor who posted remarks concerning me. He just told me to check it out along with a Dec. 2002 email attached. The email subject line had Am. Male in it so I knew it was old cos I'm at war with that site LOL

 

 

This one is simple for me. If you set up two overnights with me on my two trips to Chicago & cancel on both of them, I'll send an email asking you not to contact me. It just goes that way.

 

As a traveling scort, I can understand Brian leaving Chicago early. It's on my "won't return" list along with a couple of other cities. Simply because the number of cancellations and no shows was just too large. It can be very frustrating & when the man up above whispers in your ear, "Get the hell outta dodge!" You do:0)

 

 

Thanks,

John

http://www.SmallTownJohn1.com

[MichiganMan]

Johns response is proof positive this site needs a client no show listing, however he got the facts all wrong. I NEVER cancelled twice...the first time he claimed he didn't get my email (true I'm sure) so nothing was set up....the second....I didn't get his ( but I guess I'm suppose to believe him yet I am somehow dishonest when making the same claim) Hmmm...kinda puzzled on that one...maybe John is pissed at Chicago and took it out on me....6 plus overnights in the last year on my part...I guarantee you won't get any complaints from the escorts I've met with in regards to plannig and showing up!!

[buttnovice]

All I can say, I just met with Brian in Philly. He was professional, prompt and hot. I think his extended response may be due to the fact that English is not his first language and maybe his insecurity with English causes him to run long. However there was no problem communicating with him on any level, and he is on my see again list.

 

Life is full of crossed wires and bad days. Let's keep it all in perspective. That's for both sides of the fence.

 

Yours,

 

Buttnovice

(time to change the name?)

[OneFinger]

RE: Traveling Escorts

 

I really appreciate the discussion about hiring traveling escorts. I've tried to book appointments in the past with the "travelers" and it's never resulted in an appointment.

 

Deej's suggestion to book early seems sound. In all my instances, I was trying to get appointments near the end of their stay and they did leave early.

 

I really can't blame an escort for leaving early if they're losing money on the trip. It's only a good business decision. But, although the idea of a client no-show area sounds good, I agree with Aaron that it's not practical.

 

Think I'll stick to the locals while at home and while I'm traveling. I've always had good success with them. :9

[Flower]

>What is mean is that escorts should be allowed to list no-show

>clients on this board in order to warn other escorts.

 

ummm--since clients have no business reasons to maintain contact continuity, I guess escorts would just trust the clients' honesty and integrity not change their email address if they rack up a few "no shows.":+

[Flower]

>Johns response is proof positive this site needs a client no

>show listing...

 

--or maybe a client whiner list:+

[+ Lucky]

"--or maybe a client whiner list "

 

We already have that, it's called "The Deli!"

[guyinsf]

Brian does look very handsome but his response, even if 100% accurate, doesn't speak much in terms of his being professional. Brian describes their appointment as tentative but the potential client had a certain time and place in mind. Why did Brian give out his hotel's name/location if he felt the guy wasn't serious about meeting? I think it's strange that Brian wouldn't have gotten a phone number for the client, but I can cut him some slack there since he said he was out doing something when he took the call. One would think, however, that since Brian had no way to contact the client and Brian thought the client was tentative that Brian would have been very clear in stating that he expected another call by such-and-such a time or he would assume the client wasn't planning to meet him.

 

I can understand Brian making the choice he did in terms of leaving early. I can also believe that he gives 100% when he is with clients. (I don't believe that anyone can give more than 100% since that's all there is!!!) What I hope Brian could get from this is that he could improve his organization and/or communication skills.

[Guest DevonSFescort]

>The response is a little rambling, but the reasoning is

>sound. He even ran the numbers. He's certainly not the first

>escort I've heard from recently that cut short a Chicago trip

>because of no-shows. (What is it with Chicago guys?)

 

Uh-oh. Guess where I'm going week after next? :-(

[+ deej]

RE: Traveling Escorts

 

>Deej's suggestion to book early seems sound. In all my

>instances, I was trying to get appointments near the end of

>their stay and they did leave early.

 

Well, booking early has other benefits as well. If he's really FABULOUS you have a chance at a repeat while he's there. If you book on the last day, you don't have that chance and as you've experienced he may leave early.

[KY_TOP]

I had the pleasure of meeting Brian when he traveled to Fla. I had a great time with him and posted a positive review about a month ago. After Brian and I had set the time for our appointment he wanted to "confirm" everything the day of the meeting. I got the impression this was sort of a standard procedure for him.

 

Also, if I understand his response correctly, he wasn't actually leaving Chicago early. He was staying an extra day due to the 2 hour appointment that flaked on him and didn't show, plus the evening appointment with the reviewer. With the No Show and his thinking the Evening appointment had not been confirmed, he then went ahead and left as originally planned, saving the extra night hotel and $100 fee to change his airline ticket.

 

Brian definitely should have contacted the client when he heard the voice mail while getting his luggage instead of ignoring the client like the situation would just go away. That was very unprofessional and he may have been able to explain the misunderstanding away with the client if they had talked. Instead he added insult to the injury by ignoring the VM and e-mail the client said he had sent.

[jackhammer91406]

Traveling clients

 

Deej,

You idea works as well for traveling clients. When I was in NYC, I met Jim (btmstudnyc) on my first night. I enjoyed this time so much that later in my trip when a scheduled escort cancelled, I was able to spend another evening with Jim. Great time, great guy, great advice Deej.

 

 

 

:9

[+ Lucky]

RE: Traveling Suck-Ups

 

Talk about sucking up! Jack, this thread had nothing to do with that bottom guy! Such a tactic, squeezing in an advertisement for your favorite escort!! Why the very integrity of the message board is at stake!

[jackhammer91406]

Shane Shivers Sighting

 

Mr. Lucky!

First, pot calling the kettle etc...(Shane, come back Shane)

Second, Deej's advice had to do with booking early and that's what I replied to.

Third, who says he is my favorite? (just because I have seen him three times and it was the greatest sex of my life...oh G-d I am getting carried away. Someone call Woodlawn, quick. lol)

 

 

I will try and be more respectful of this board's integrity in the future.

 

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[+ Lucky]

RE: Shane Shivers Sighting

 

"I will try and be more respectful of this board's integrity in the future."

 

Well, you have already shown that by your prompt and intelligent response to my post. BTW- Shane looks better than ever, doesn't he?

 

PS: I liked the alliteration in the title!

[btmstudnyc]

Shame on Shane

 

Lucky, you upstart you.

 

as far as the traveling escort thing is concerned....I have left early myself, but never without letting whoever I MIGHT have met know that I was going....Emails dont take that long.

 

YES, VAHAWK this did happen in Syracuse...I decided to leave before I got the chance to get bored...but the client I did have there was tremendous and cordial and kept me oh-my-gosh SO BUSY. I was tired by the beginning of the third day anyways....I slept on the plane and got home only to sleep with 2 more clients that day...phew...thank the lord for weekends.

 

 

JIM

 

PS...Jackhammer is still high off of his GO-OUT night at the HOLLYWOOD BOWL...thank goodness that the date wasn't a NO SHOW TRAVELLING ASSCORT.

 

As for me...that's my flower and I'm sticking through it.

 

JIM

 

Really Marge...I can't have another donut?