Fin Fang Foom And The Return Of Kristian/Houston

[Rick Munroe]

>So what twink does have the biggest cock? And how do you

>know?

 

My latest favorite would have to be the 24-year-old 9" Venezuelan boy I hooked up with last week, with whom I was locked in an intense '69' for about 3 hours. Between that & the deep kissing, our jaws ached. But it was a nice ache, you know?

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

The Culture Of Desire

 

>>Gay lonliness is a fact of gay life,

>>especially as you get older.

>

>What is 'gay loneliness' as opposed to 'straight loneliness'?

 

Gay men (this site is a perfect exampler of that) are notoriously surface concious. We look at, treat and act towards other gay men like they were/are pieces of furniture. This is not merely client to escorts or escort to client, but simply one gay man to another gay man.

 

> Gay loneliness? It

>might have been true in generations

>past when many gay men

>were deep in the closet, but it doesn't hold

>true today...at least, not for those of us

>who came of age after Stonewall.

 

While there are certainly more urban environs, a multitude of establishments (not all bars), and more opportunities for gay men NOW, and this certainly is a by-product of gay liberation and the gay rights movement, it also means that there are more opportunities to feel left out, to be alone, and to have feelings of not belonging.

 

 

>As for older people getting lonely, yes, that is a fact of

>life for everyone, straight or gay, as loved ones & friends

>pass away. My grandmother's lonely & she's definitely no

>dyke.

 

Your grandmother is not being judged by her peers nor is she judging those she might choose to hope to have as friends based on their looks, age, or other surface choices.

 

The fact of the matter is that society at large favors a youth culture in Western Civilization. There is no respect nor cultivation of either age or wisdom.

 

Gay men take this dominant strain and carry it to extremes.

 

Posters on this site have often remarked that it may be there only connection to gay culture or other individuals who identify as gay. Loneliness is very real and very common, particularly among gay men, at any age.

 

While all of this is off the main topic of this thread, frankly, part of the other inherent problem in gay culture is an attack, no matter how well founded or intended, based on second hand information and I prefer not to comment on that.

[+ Lucky]

RE: Fin Fang Kaboom And The Return Of Kristian/Houston

 

As curious as I am to know what the hullabaloo was all about what with the arrests, kristian does not have any obligation to report to us on what happened. He has every right to go back into whatever business he wants to do (legally!) and those who aren't interested don't have to look. It does seem that he has many satisfied customers.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: The Culture Of Desire

 

>Posters on this site have often remarked that it may be there

>only connection to gay culture or other individuals who

>identify as gay. Loneliness is very real and very common,

>particularly among gay men, at any age.

 

I always forget that my life is not typical...I came out when I was about 16, and I went straight from living with Mommy & Daddy to living with Derek. I never had one day alone & I've never experienced the loneliness that so many gay men have & do. It's not that I don't empathize (I do); I think it's natural when we assume that our life experience is more common than it is. I guess I'll take it more to heart when people tell me I'm lucky to have what I have.

[Flower]

>>By calling each other queers, faggots, fairies or whatever

>we

>>rob others of the ability to make these terms pejoratives.

>

>Kind of like an escort calling himself a dumb whore? ;-)

 

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] I suppose Rick, but I like it no more when you say it than when FFF and his ilk say it. I'm not sure it can be desensitised so easy and is still a pejorative -- no matter how tongue in cheek--at least IMHO

[Rick Munroe]

>I'm not sure it can be

>desensitised so easy and is still a pejorative -- no matter

>how tongue in cheek--

 

But actually, I don't use it to desensitize or to take the wind out of anyone's sail. I use it because I think it's a sexy word...it turns me on. }(

[jackhammer91406]

Rick,

There is such a thing as Gay Loneliness. It may not be pc, but it does happen. Now, you have no problem with being out going (in every sense of the words) and that is great. I am jealous of that ability in you. But for me, it has not been easy and just at this stage in my life, finally beginning to make friends (who happen to be gay) has made a difference and I wish I could have done it years ago. Yes, there are choices that we all make and whatever the choices, there are consequences. Not everyone is the same when it comes to how to choose. I am not whining or moaning about what could have been if I had done things differently. I made those choices and I take the consequences. But there is no judgement from me as to what others do. I give them the respect to make up their own mind about their circumstances and the best course of action for them, just as I would expect from them for me. If someone wants to give me advice, great. If someone wants to judge me or my choices, they can get in line. The world is filled with bigoted and hate filled people who are ready to do just that. In my case, each of those will have to wait their turn.

 

Well, that feels better.

 

Love the new butt pic BTW.

 

;-)

[jackhammer91406]

Rick,

There is such a thing as Gay Loneliness. It may not be pc, but it does happen. Now, you have no problem with being out going (in every sense of the words) and that is great. I am jealous of that ability in you. But for me, it has not been easy and just at this stage in my life, finally beginning to make friends (who happen to be gay) has made a difference and I wish I could have done it years ago. Yes, there are choices that we all make and whatever the choices, there are consequences. Not everyone is the same when it comes to how to choose. I am not whining or moaning about what could have been if I had done things differently. I made those choices and I take the consequences. But there is no judgement from me as to what others do. I give them the respect to make up their own mind about their circumstances and the best course of action for them, just as I would expect from them for me. If someone wants to give me advice, great. If someone wants to judge me or my choices, they can get in line. The world is filled with bigoted and hate filled people who are ready to do just that. In my case, each of those will have to wait their turn.

 

Well, that feels better.

 

Love the new butt pic BTW.

 

;-)

[Chuck50]

RE: Fin Fang Kaboom And The Return Of Kristian/Houston

 

Here Here HUGS

[Chuck50]

RE: Fin Fang Kaboom And The Return Of Kristian/Houston

 

Here Here HUGS

[VaHawk]

>Personally, I think you are a dangerous man. If I knew who you

>were, I would warn all escorts to stay the hell away from you.

 

Damn dude, chill the hell out! Don't let FFF get under your skin. For whatever his personal reasons, he is very anti-escort, and for whatever reasons he feels that way, he has a right to express his opinion. That hardly makes him a dangerous man.

 

>My gut tells me that you like to fuck with peoples lives for

>your own boredom. You are a silly little ninny faggot. Your

>nit picking bitch antics are funny here in this anonymous

>realm, but in the real world, you are useless.

 

Aww, man, he just likes pulling your chain. He isn't trying to fuck with your life, just your mind. From my own perspective, as a client, he helps keep things in the realm of reality. Calling him a "faggot" is no more noble than him calling you a "whore". BTW how is what he is and what his opinions are make him more useless in the real world, than you are? As far as I know, the world will go on spinning, whether you, FFF, or I am still on it.

 

Don't let FFF's ravings get to you, especially to the point that you in turn, post such a negative response, that totally puts you in a bad light with prospective clients. But then again, you have a handle that doesn't tell us what your escort handle is. He is not worth self-destruction, but imo, he is an invaluable resource to this board , one whose thoughts and opinions I value. And yes, I find him amusing.

[VaHawk]

>Personally, I think you are a dangerous man. If I knew who you

>were, I would warn all escorts to stay the hell away from you.

 

Damn dude, chill the hell out! Don't let FFF get under your skin. For whatever his personal reasons, he is very anti-escort, and for whatever reasons he feels that way, he has a right to express his opinion. That hardly makes him a dangerous man.

 

>My gut tells me that you like to fuck with peoples lives for

>your own boredom. You are a silly little ninny faggot. Your

>nit picking bitch antics are funny here in this anonymous

>realm, but in the real world, you are useless.

 

Aww, man, he just likes pulling your chain. He isn't trying to fuck with your life, just your mind. From my own perspective, as a client, he helps keep things in the realm of reality. Calling him a "faggot" is no more noble than him calling you a "whore". BTW how is what he is and what his opinions are make him more useless in the real world, than you are? As far as I know, the world will go on spinning, whether you, FFF, or I am still on it.

 

Don't let FFF's ravings get to you, especially to the point that you in turn, post such a negative response, that totally puts you in a bad light with prospective clients. But then again, you have a handle that doesn't tell us what your escort handle is. He is not worth self-destruction, but imo, he is an invaluable resource to this board , one whose thoughts and opinions I value. And yes, I find him amusing.

[Flower]

>Damn dude, chill the hell out! Don't let FFF get under your

>skin. For whatever his personal reasons, he is very

>anti-escort, and for whatever reasons he feels that way, he

>has a right to express his opinion. That hardly makes him a

>dangerous man.

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]

Hawk, I couldn't disagree with you more. for the most part FFF spews venom, hate and slurs and I for one find it offiensive, useless, and don't feel it belongs here.

 

Those of you who defend him just lend credibility to his pejorative filled rantings, at least in his own mind. Those of us like In Your Face who call the useless asshole a useless asshole probably just encourage him, but at least other's know his rantings are totally unacceptable to thinking people.

 

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]>Don't let FFF's ravings get to you, especially to the point

>that you in turn, post such a negative response, that totally

>puts you in a bad light with prospective clients.

[font color ="green"

]

Um....this is the ol' stand up for PRINCIPAL talk? x(

 

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]>but imo, he is an invaluable resource to this board , one whose >thoughts and opinions I value. And yes, I find him amusing.

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]

If that is true, then why don't we hear you saying the same kinda shit? FFF appears to be intelligent, but even genius would not be a sufficient redeeming quality for him.

 

In Your Face, thanks for your post--it was simply calling an asshole an asshole:+

[Flower]

>Damn dude, chill the hell out! Don't let FFF get under your

>skin. For whatever his personal reasons, he is very

>anti-escort, and for whatever reasons he feels that way, he

>has a right to express his opinion. That hardly makes him a

>dangerous man.

[font color ="green"

]

Hawk, I couldn't disagree with you more. for the most part FFF spews venom, hate and slurs and I for one find it offiensive, useless, and don't feel it belongs here.

 

Those of you who defend him just lend credibility to his pejorative filled rantings, at least in his own mind. Those of us like In Your Face who call the useless asshole a useless asshole probably just encourage him, but at least other's know his rantings are totally unacceptable to thinking people.

 

[font color ="blue"

]>Don't let FFF's ravings get to you, especially to the point

>that you in turn, post such a negative response, that totally

>puts you in a bad light with prospective clients.

[font color ="green"

]

Um....this is the ol' stand up for PRINCIPAL talk? x(

 

[font color ="blue"

]>but imo, he is an invaluable resource to this board , one whose >thoughts and opinions I value. And yes, I find him amusing.

[font color ="green"

]

If that is true, then why don't we hear you saying the same kinda shit? FFF appears to be intelligent, but even genius would not be a sufficient redeeming quality for him.

 

In Your Face, thanks for your post--it was simply calling an asshole an asshole:+

[VaHawk]

>Hawk, I couldn't disagree with you more. for the most part FFF

>spews venom, hate and slurs and I for one find it offiensive,

>useless, and don't feel it belongs here.

 

And in return, I Couldn't Disagree With You More! I find FFF's take on things INVALUABLE!! as far as the reality of the escort/client relationship goes! It keeps me on my toes as far as not taking the relationship for anything more than a commercial transaction, which is all it is. I have never read anything by FFF that was offensive or venomous from a client perspective, although escorts such as "in yer face" would disagree. FFF's posts DEFINITELY BELONG HERE, if for no other reason than to keep the client from going off into some kind of "self delusional fantasy land" about the client/escort relationship. As such they are useful, not useless, and appreciated by those who tend to daydream and ignore reality.

 

>Those of you who defend him just lend credibility to his

>pejorative filled rantings, at least in his own mind. Those of

>us like In Your Face who call the useless asshole a useless

>asshole probably just encourage him, but at least other's know

>his rantings are totally unacceptable to thinking people.

 

WELL EXCUSE ME!!!! But I am a degreed professional who considers myself a compassionate, intelligent and THINKING PERSON!!!!!!

Just because I disagree with your opinion does not make it otherwise.

This comment by you, is at the very least, condescending. Based upon prior postings, I assume and if wrong apologize, that "in yer face" is an escort. If so, then why doesn't he use his escort name? Is he afraid that doing so, will cost him business, as his comments could be taken the wrong way?

 

x(

[VaHawk]

>Hawk, I couldn't disagree with you more. for the most part FFF

>spews venom, hate and slurs and I for one find it offiensive,

>useless, and don't feel it belongs here.

 

And in return, I Couldn't Disagree With You More! I find FFF's take on things INVALUABLE!! as far as the reality of the escort/client relationship goes! It keeps me on my toes as far as not taking the relationship for anything more than a commercial transaction, which is all it is. I have never read anything by FFF that was offensive or venomous from a client perspective, although escorts such as "in yer face" would disagree. FFF's posts DEFINITELY BELONG HERE, if for no other reason than to keep the client from going off into some kind of "self delusional fantasy land" about the client/escort relationship. As such they are useful, not useless, and appreciated by those who tend to daydream and ignore reality.

 

>Those of you who defend him just lend credibility to his

>pejorative filled rantings, at least in his own mind. Those of

>us like In Your Face who call the useless asshole a useless

>asshole probably just encourage him, but at least other's know

>his rantings are totally unacceptable to thinking people.

 

WELL EXCUSE ME!!!! But I am a degreed professional who considers myself a compassionate, intelligent and THINKING PERSON!!!!!!

Just because I disagree with your opinion does not make it otherwise.

This comment by you, is at the very least, condescending. Based upon prior postings, I assume and if wrong apologize, that "in yer face" is an escort. If so, then why doesn't he use his escort name? Is he afraid that doing so, will cost him business, as his comments could be taken the wrong way?

 

x(

[giovoni]

>I have never read

>anything by FFF that was offensive or venomous from a client

>perspective, although escorts such as "in yer face" would

>disagree.

 

Are you kidding? Since he's never said anything that offended a client his posts belong here.. I don't really mind him posting.. he usually just looks bitter and demeaning, and his completely dark cynicism and hatred probably do make people rethink some opinions that are on the other side of the spectrum.. but advancing his rights just because he never offends clients seems disingenuous at best.. Further if you really aren't offended as a client in the way he uses the word whore then I wonder how you treat the people that you hire. If his use of this word is not one of the best examples there is of using a pejorative term with the purpose of belittling and hurting a certain population then I don't know what is.

 

Gio in Denver

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/massagebygio

[giovoni]

>I have never read

>anything by FFF that was offensive or venomous from a client

>perspective, although escorts such as "in yer face" would

>disagree.

 

Are you kidding? Since he's never said anything that offended a client his posts belong here.. I don't really mind him posting.. he usually just looks bitter and demeaning, and his completely dark cynicism and hatred probably do make people rethink some opinions that are on the other side of the spectrum.. but advancing his rights just because he never offends clients seems disingenuous at best.. Further if you really aren't offended as a client in the way he uses the word whore then I wonder how you treat the people that you hire. If his use of this word is not one of the best examples there is of using a pejorative term with the purpose of belittling and hurting a certain population then I don't know what is.

 

Gio in Denver

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/massagebygio

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>Hawk, I couldn't disagree with you more. for the most part FFF

>spews venom, hate and slurs and I for one find it offiensive

 

Ok, that's IT! Call me what you want, but I REFUSE to sit idly by while someone calls me offiensive.

 

Non-offiensively yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>Hawk, I couldn't disagree with you more. for the most part FFF

>spews venom, hate and slurs and I for one find it offiensive

 

Ok, that's IT! Call me what you want, but I REFUSE to sit idly by while someone calls me offiensive.

 

Non-offiensively yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>For whatever his personal reasons, he is very

>anti-escort

 

No I'm NOT! What I've said time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again is that I'm against the GLAMORIZATION of prostitution.

 

For those of you who may have missed it, I'm fine with guys being whores to pay for college or pay off some debts. What I'm NOT for is guys who make prostitution their profession. Actions have consequences and guys who say they love doing it are BIG FAT LIARS. They hide behind the usual things like "I love meeting new people, I love travel, I'm horny all the time anyway, blah blah blah." It's all BULLSHIT. Contrary to what they say on this site, they DON'T like what they're doing and they're not proud of it either. As I've said before, would YOU enjoy having sex with men you aren't attracted to? HELL FUCKING NO!

 

So, when my bullshit meter starts going off the scale, I happily remind guys that they're WHORES. I just love it when they talk about being "high class". I don't care if you're getting paid to sit on the face of Prince Albert of Monaco while on a yacht among the Greek Isles - you're still a WHORE. No different than a Meat Packing District trannie sucking off a Hasidic Jew who just drove over from Brooklyn.

 

As for "clients", I have no problem with them. Hell, I've hired guys I wanted. However, I never once deluded myself into thinking that it was anything more than what it was. Part of my disgust for this whole Kristian/Houston brou-ha-ha-ha is that a bunch of you started to melt like teenage girls at an NSYNC concert when you spoke about him. Gimme a fucking break. You're melting not because he's a nice guy, you're melting because he's a pretty guy with a monster cock (a straight man's conterpart of a blond with big tits). It's a cliche and I will gleefully point it out whenever it rears its head.

 

I'm bored with this.

 

Still yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>For whatever his personal reasons, he is very

>anti-escort

 

No I'm NOT! What I've said time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again is that I'm against the GLAMORIZATION of prostitution.

 

For those of you who may have missed it, I'm fine with guys being whores to pay for college or pay off some debts. What I'm NOT for is guys who make prostitution their profession. Actions have consequences and guys who say they love doing it are BIG FAT LIARS. They hide behind the usual things like "I love meeting new people, I love travel, I'm horny all the time anyway, blah blah blah." It's all BULLSHIT. Contrary to what they say on this site, they DON'T like what they're doing and they're not proud of it either. As I've said before, would YOU enjoy having sex with men you aren't attracted to? HELL FUCKING NO!

 

So, when my bullshit meter starts going off the scale, I happily remind guys that they're WHORES. I just love it when they talk about being "high class". I don't care if you're getting paid to sit on the face of Prince Albert of Monaco while on a yacht among the Greek Isles - you're still a WHORE. No different than a Meat Packing District trannie sucking off a Hasidic Jew who just drove over from Brooklyn.

 

As for "clients", I have no problem with them. Hell, I've hired guys I wanted. However, I never once deluded myself into thinking that it was anything more than what it was. Part of my disgust for this whole Kristian/Houston brou-ha-ha-ha is that a bunch of you started to melt like teenage girls at an NSYNC concert when you spoke about him. Gimme a fucking break. You're melting not because he's a nice guy, you're melting because he's a pretty guy with a monster cock (a straight man's conterpart of a blond with big tits). It's a cliche and I will gleefully point it out whenever it rears its head.

 

I'm bored with this.

 

Still yours,

 

FFF

[+ deej]

>Still yours,

 

Unfortunately.

 

No matter what, we'll always have FFF to tell us what we should be thinking. The PC thought police will be so proud!

[+ deej]

>Still yours,

 

Unfortunately.

 

No matter what, we'll always have FFF to tell us what we should be thinking. The PC thought police will be so proud!

[Guest in yer face]

> It's a cliche and

>I will gleefully point it out whenever it rears its head.

>

 

 

No problem, and I will gleefully point out that I think you are a silly little faggot whenever you rear YOUR ugly bald head.

 

GLEEFULLY YOURS,

In yer face