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Guest Harry Bitsch

<<Perhaps we should be questioning/debating/discussing not WHAT was

said, but rather WHY it was said.>>

 

Very perceptive.

 

I carry Scott's commentary on my website because he's got a fresh and above all honest writing style.

 

For his efforts, he's been villified by a stalker that has been terrorizing the adult industry for at least five years. The stalker threatened to expose personal information and Scott responded by posting the personal information before the stalker had the chance.

 

The kid has balls. I give him props.

 

He's a ditzy blond, but he's willing to admit it and talk about what it's like to be a ditzy blond.

 

He's made some mistakes and he admits it.

 

He does NOT deserve the shit he's been put through thanks to his stalker.

 

As far as how escorts view this site ... the guys I've talked to all hate it. Every one of them.

 

We expect them to be discreet and then we post here what kind of fuck they are. They can understandably be upset, even the good ones.

 

It's the old two-edged sword.

 

We want them to be discreet and then we're not.

 

How would YOU regard this site in that light?

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<<Perhaps we should be questioning/debating/discussing not WHAT was

said, but rather WHY it was said.>>

 

Very perceptive.

 

I carry Scott's commentary on my website because he's got a fresh and above all honest writing style.

 

For his efforts, he's been villified by a stalker that has been terrorizing the adult industry for at least five years. The stalker threatened to expose personal information and Scott responded by posting the personal information before the stalker had the chance.

 

The kid has balls. I give him props.

 

He's a ditzy blond, but he's willing to admit it and talk about what it's like to be a ditzy blond.

 

He's made some mistakes and he admits it.

 

He does NOT deserve the shit he's been put through thanks to his stalker.

 

As far as how escorts view this site ... the guys I've talked to all hate it. Every one of them.

 

We expect them to be discreet and then we post here what kind of fuck they are. They can understandably be upset, even the good ones.

 

It's the old two-edged sword.

 

We want them to be discreet and then we're not.

 

How would YOU regard this site in that light?

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Harry-Say

 

>As far as how escorts view this site ... the guys I've talked

>to all hate it. Every one of them.

>

>We expect them to be discreet and then we post here what kind

>of fuck they are. They can understandably be upset, even the

>good ones.

>

>It's the old two-edged sword.

>

>We want them to be discreet and then we're not.

>

>How would YOU regard this site in that light?

 

 

The problem with heresay is that you have to take into account the person who says it, what they say, what agenda they may have and what possible changes in the outcome may derive if the heresay is accepted at face value.

 

I have no idea who this guy is and that means little in the large scheme of things.

 

Among escorts I personally know, this Message Center is largely viewed as a huge time vampire and waste of time. The majority opinion is that posting is ultimately detrimental to your (escort) health and that you are bound to upset, confuse, disappoint or otherwise adversely impact a potential client, thus losing business.

 

However, every single escort I personally know takes the reviews with varying degrees of seriousness. Some are upset to be discussed in a less than flattering manner (i.e., drug use, physical appearance, lack of technique or ability, etc.) where other takes other kinds of opinions (hair loss mentioned in the review of a 24 year old is one example that comes to mind) to heart.

 

Do they "hate" the site? Personally, I think that is a strong and inaccurate word. Sometimes they worry that some clients with axes to grind will come after them but from what I have heard, Hoo Boy takes this kind of thing into account and, of course, with the reviews, the escorts do always have the last word. I know three clients who have reviewed other escorts on here, one a no show and the other two unflattering reviews, and none of these was published.

 

Everyone here needs to keep in mind that it is work for either most clients (and escorts) to post, but still it is much easier for any individual to create a user name and comment in the forums than it is for that individual to submit a review. I know there is a great deal of belief that a number of reviews are "fake" and some have likely slipped through, but this kind of false information would come to light in ways that would be more detrimental to the escort. A post on the message center (a slight about my age, a comment about _____ barebacking, or _______ taking a deposit without meeting the client, or anything of that kind of nature, unless the escort defends himself or some clients come to the escorts defense (and even there, the client is often accused of being the escort in disguise).

 

I do think if we put ourselves out in public we should have less of an expectation of privacy or that our actions, appearance, handling of our affairs, and other reasonable factors related to escorting, will be fair game. When I meet a client, I make an effort to look presentable and be personable. When I go work out, I walk there sometimes without showering, without shaving and I have business there - to work out. I am not there to either meet or solicit clients. If someone were to say, I saw Franco at midnight mass, that is probably reasonable. If someone were to say, Franco looks like shit, I think that is unreasonable if it is based solely on one view. This is way celebrities hate photographers and feel their privacy is invaded.

 

 

On the other hand, in escort sites I participate in, with hundred of escorts involved, when escorts advise other escorts how to increase business, how to make themselves better known, how to increase their opportunities, being reviewed and this site rank well up there. This is why a number of escorts, like Michael Brandon, publically thanked this site and Hoo Boy for "supporting" them in this career.

 

Hate is far from the right word. Conflicted? Possibly. But that is what happens to anyone who is reviewed: a writer, an artist, a film maker, an architect, or anyone who is judged on their performance if that written commentary were visible to all, as it is now for some medical care providers in certain states.

 

Escorting is not a calling for everyone. It is also not a calling that may be suitable for all of us who are escorts for a great length of time, and certainly not our entire life. In spite of knowing a fair number of adult film actors and escorts under the age of 25, I also have to admit I know come to agree with Mr. Hagen that some men may be too young to be in this business and may lack the ability to deal with sex industry work at an age when they should be coming to terms with who they are and what they want out of life.

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Harry-Say

 

>As far as how escorts view this site ... the guys I've talked

>to all hate it. Every one of them.

>

>We expect them to be discreet and then we post here what kind

>of fuck they are. They can understandably be upset, even the

>good ones.

>

>It's the old two-edged sword.

>

>We want them to be discreet and then we're not.

>

>How would YOU regard this site in that light?

 

 

The problem with heresay is that you have to take into account the person who says it, what they say, what agenda they may have and what possible changes in the outcome may derive if the heresay is accepted at face value.

 

I have no idea who this guy is and that means little in the large scheme of things.

 

Among escorts I personally know, this Message Center is largely viewed as a huge time vampire and waste of time. The majority opinion is that posting is ultimately detrimental to your (escort) health and that you are bound to upset, confuse, disappoint or otherwise adversely impact a potential client, thus losing business.

 

However, every single escort I personally know takes the reviews with varying degrees of seriousness. Some are upset to be discussed in a less than flattering manner (i.e., drug use, physical appearance, lack of technique or ability, etc.) where other takes other kinds of opinions (hair loss mentioned in the review of a 24 year old is one example that comes to mind) to heart.

 

Do they "hate" the site? Personally, I think that is a strong and inaccurate word. Sometimes they worry that some clients with axes to grind will come after them but from what I have heard, Hoo Boy takes this kind of thing into account and, of course, with the reviews, the escorts do always have the last word. I know three clients who have reviewed other escorts on here, one a no show and the other two unflattering reviews, and none of these was published.

 

Everyone here needs to keep in mind that it is work for either most clients (and escorts) to post, but still it is much easier for any individual to create a user name and comment in the forums than it is for that individual to submit a review. I know there is a great deal of belief that a number of reviews are "fake" and some have likely slipped through, but this kind of false information would come to light in ways that would be more detrimental to the escort. A post on the message center (a slight about my age, a comment about _____ barebacking, or _______ taking a deposit without meeting the client, or anything of that kind of nature, unless the escort defends himself or some clients come to the escorts defense (and even there, the client is often accused of being the escort in disguise).

 

I do think if we put ourselves out in public we should have less of an expectation of privacy or that our actions, appearance, handling of our affairs, and other reasonable factors related to escorting, will be fair game. When I meet a client, I make an effort to look presentable and be personable. When I go work out, I walk there sometimes without showering, without shaving and I have business there - to work out. I am not there to either meet or solicit clients. If someone were to say, I saw Franco at midnight mass, that is probably reasonable. If someone were to say, Franco looks like shit, I think that is unreasonable if it is based solely on one view. This is way celebrities hate photographers and feel their privacy is invaded.

 

 

On the other hand, in escort sites I participate in, with hundred of escorts involved, when escorts advise other escorts how to increase business, how to make themselves better known, how to increase their opportunities, being reviewed and this site rank well up there. This is why a number of escorts, like Michael Brandon, publically thanked this site and Hoo Boy for "supporting" them in this career.

 

Hate is far from the right word. Conflicted? Possibly. But that is what happens to anyone who is reviewed: a writer, an artist, a film maker, an architect, or anyone who is judged on their performance if that written commentary were visible to all, as it is now for some medical care providers in certain states.

 

Escorting is not a calling for everyone. It is also not a calling that may be suitable for all of us who are escorts for a great length of time, and certainly not our entire life. In spite of knowing a fair number of adult film actors and escorts under the age of 25, I also have to admit I know come to agree with Mr. Hagen that some men may be too young to be in this business and may lack the ability to deal with sex industry work at an age when they should be coming to terms with who they are and what they want out of life.

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>As far as how escorts view this site ... the guys I've talked

>to all hate it. Every one of them.

>

>We expect them to be discreet and then we post here what kind

>of fuck they are. They can understandably be upset, even the

>good ones.

 

 

I have seen OVER 20 escorts in the past year and a half and would strongly disagree with that statement. The only way I found this site was a link from an escort's own website and numerous escorts and escort listing site say "check out my reviews" with a link to this site. I only hire when traveling. Upon my return home I always send a followup thank you e-mail if I had a good time. About 10 escorts have then replied would you send in a review to Hooboy site?... it helps my business. One even typed in the web address. On my recent trip to LA before one escort had even sat down he asked How did you find out about me? When I mentioned Hooboy site, he said I hope you will write a good review for me. 2 of the other escorts I hired while there also suggested had I review them in there reply e-mails. 1 escort mentioned, during the date, that he had gotten so much business from here that he had sent in a paypal donation. Doesn't seem like Hate to me.

 

Many escorts my not like the message center because it is pure opinion and gossip most of the time. Do to the knives thrown in the Message Center sometimes, I see were an escort may be afraid their opinions could hurt there business. Everyone, escorts, clients, and non-clients who post here get the sharp ends of those knives sometime.

 

As for Scott Bradley, I do not know him and have never hired him. I too feel sorry for him for the Hell the "Stalker" is putting him threw. But, as far as this site, there is nothing wrong with telling everyone he was a NO SHOW. As I said before I hire only when I travel and I guarantee you I feel my time is as valuable as his. I don't want to be sitting around a hotel waiting on someone when I could be meeting someone else or seeing the sites of the city.

 

Their are 2 sides to every story, that's why an escort can always respond to a bad review or a No Show with the reason. I have hired escorts with a bad review because the reason they posted seemed plausible.

 

Mr Bradley, and some other escorts, may Hate this site, but I believe most escorts, especially the Good Ones, like this site because it puts money in their pockets. There are over 20 escorts that have several hundred dollars, and a few that have a few thousand dollars from me in their pockets due to this site. And if they dislike it so much, Why do so many post every little trip they make in the Escorts Travel section? They know they can get business that way!

 

Again, I am sorry for Mr Bradley's problems with "He that shall not be named" But his fight is with him and not the guys here. In fact he has some defenders here.

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>As far as how escorts view this site ... the guys I've talked

>to all hate it. Every one of them.

>

>We expect them to be discreet and then we post here what kind

>of fuck they are. They can understandably be upset, even the

>good ones.

 

 

I have seen OVER 20 escorts in the past year and a half and would strongly disagree with that statement. The only way I found this site was a link from an escort's own website and numerous escorts and escort listing site say "check out my reviews" with a link to this site. I only hire when traveling. Upon my return home I always send a followup thank you e-mail if I had a good time. About 10 escorts have then replied would you send in a review to Hooboy site?... it helps my business. One even typed in the web address. On my recent trip to LA before one escort had even sat down he asked How did you find out about me? When I mentioned Hooboy site, he said I hope you will write a good review for me. 2 of the other escorts I hired while there also suggested had I review them in there reply e-mails. 1 escort mentioned, during the date, that he had gotten so much business from here that he had sent in a paypal donation. Doesn't seem like Hate to me.

 

Many escorts my not like the message center because it is pure opinion and gossip most of the time. Do to the knives thrown in the Message Center sometimes, I see were an escort may be afraid their opinions could hurt there business. Everyone, escorts, clients, and non-clients who post here get the sharp ends of those knives sometime.

 

As for Scott Bradley, I do not know him and have never hired him. I too feel sorry for him for the Hell the "Stalker" is putting him threw. But, as far as this site, there is nothing wrong with telling everyone he was a NO SHOW. As I said before I hire only when I travel and I guarantee you I feel my time is as valuable as his. I don't want to be sitting around a hotel waiting on someone when I could be meeting someone else or seeing the sites of the city.

 

Their are 2 sides to every story, that's why an escort can always respond to a bad review or a No Show with the reason. I have hired escorts with a bad review because the reason they posted seemed plausible.

 

Mr Bradley, and some other escorts, may Hate this site, but I believe most escorts, especially the Good Ones, like this site because it puts money in their pockets. There are over 20 escorts that have several hundred dollars, and a few that have a few thousand dollars from me in their pockets due to this site. And if they dislike it so much, Why do so many post every little trip they make in the Escorts Travel section? They know they can get business that way!

 

Again, I am sorry for Mr Bradley's problems with "He that shall not be named" But his fight is with him and not the guys here. In fact he has some defenders here.

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Michael Brandon is one of "those" who has admitted to working hand in hand with "He Who Shall Not Be Named". This applies to Nathan Hamilton as well who is also an escort.

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Michael Brandon is one of "those" who has admitted to working hand in hand with "He Who Shall Not Be Named". This applies to Nathan Hamilton as well who is also an escort.

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> I agree Lucky--I was enjoying his post

>until he said that--now his posts will be forever tainted with

>his apparent bigotry and misplaced hatred--reminds me of

>something (uugg x( ) Adrian would say. :-(

 

 

Sorry Dudes. This Board is becoming such a snooze, I was just trying to shake things up. If I went to far....oh well. And Lucky:

 

1. Eros the Greek on rentboy is the French guy that advertised in Next for years and that I posted earlier as not very interactive; and Rico, also on rentboy in the white speedo with the Miami area code, is very, very big fun - in a Joaoy/Braziliany kinda way.

 

2. One of my favorite current beepers hooked me up with an excellent new pez dispenser - perfect timing for the Black Party.

 

Later.

 

PS. The Israeli told me that Iraqis ignite best with naplam and give off a woody type of aroma; whereas, with Palestinians, it's best to use vats of burning oil. They smell like fried chicken.

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> I agree Lucky--I was enjoying his post

>until he said that--now his posts will be forever tainted with

>his apparent bigotry and misplaced hatred--reminds me of

>something (uugg x( ) Adrian would say. :-(

 

 

Sorry Dudes. This Board is becoming such a snooze, I was just trying to shake things up. If I went to far....oh well. And Lucky:

 

1. Eros the Greek on rentboy is the French guy that advertised in Next for years and that I posted earlier as not very interactive; and Rico, also on rentboy in the white speedo with the Miami area code, is very, very big fun - in a Joaoy/Braziliany kinda way.

 

2. One of my favorite current beepers hooked me up with an excellent new pez dispenser - perfect timing for the Black Party.

 

Later.

 

PS. The Israeli told me that Iraqis ignite best with naplam and give off a woody type of aroma; whereas, with Palestinians, it's best to use vats of burning oil. They smell like fried chicken.

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Well, trav, you made me laugh with that one. I would agree with the idea that the board is getting to be a snooze. There is more pontificating going on now.

So let's lighten up, get high, and watch while some hot latin stud sets fire to our bud with the Israeli bf! Talk about sizzling in bed!

Later

:)

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Well, trav, you made me laugh with that one. I would agree with the idea that the board is getting to be a snooze. There is more pontificating going on now.

So let's lighten up, get high, and watch while some hot latin stud sets fire to our bud with the Israeli bf! Talk about sizzling in bed!

Later

:)

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RE: comments on being a whore

 

Escorts who post here do take a chance that theey will be ridiculed and gossiped about. But, on the other hand, it is a good source of business for them and they, just like us, get an opportunity to be heard on what is often an interesting forum (I said often!).

Franco posts a lot and has the courage to take opinion and offer advice. Sometime he seems very serious to contemplate a romp in the hay with him, but I wouldn't mind having dinner with him!.

Personally, it takes time to keep up with the Message Center, so I wonder how people have time to read an escort's web diary or column. But if you are interested enough to do so, it doesn't seem fair to then trash the escort for what he writes there. After all, he is directing the column to people who are interested in him.

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RE: comments on being a whore

 

Escorts who post here do take a chance that theey will be ridiculed and gossiped about. But, on the other hand, it is a good source of business for them and they, just like us, get an opportunity to be heard on what is often an interesting forum (I said often!).

Franco posts a lot and has the courage to take opinion and offer advice. Sometime he seems very serious to contemplate a romp in the hay with him, but I wouldn't mind having dinner with him!.

Personally, it takes time to keep up with the Message Center, so I wonder how people have time to read an escort's web diary or column. But if you are interested enough to do so, it doesn't seem fair to then trash the escort for what he writes there. After all, he is directing the column to people who are interested in him.

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"Nick" I stood up to you on Atkol and I'll stand up to you on here...we both know that Hairy is NOT over the top on his comments about "He Who Shall Not Be Named". For some pathetic, bizzar reason you support the outsider, non porn industry, wannabe known as "He Who Shall Not Be Named". EVERYBODY in the gay porn industry knows he's NOTHING but a shill for David Forest. PERIOD.

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"Nick" I stood up to you on Atkol and I'll stand up to you on here...we both know that Hairy is NOT over the top on his comments about "He Who Shall Not Be Named". For some pathetic, bizzar reason you support the outsider, non porn industry, wannabe known as "He Who Shall Not Be Named". EVERYBODY in the gay porn industry knows he's NOTHING but a shill for David Forest. PERIOD.

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I was kind of amused in this thread to see an escort refer to a board he posts to that has a membership of several hundred escorts. And guys he didn't mean this one.

 

I thought its existence was supposed to be a big secret? But since there is an escort only board out there it doesn't seem to make sense to complain too bitterly about a board where clients can talk. And you know escort can and do post here as well.

 

As for Scott Bradley in the real world people have jobs they don't really love but its probably not a good idea to keep a job where you despise the customers. Not for them (they may never know) but for you. Doing something you hate will always grind you down sooner or later.

 

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I was kind of amused in this thread to see an escort refer to a board he posts to that has a membership of several hundred escorts. And guys he didn't mean this one.

 

I thought its existence was supposed to be a big secret? But since there is an escort only board out there it doesn't seem to make sense to complain too bitterly about a board where clients can talk. And you know escort can and do post here as well.

 

As for Scott Bradley in the real world people have jobs they don't really love but its probably not a good idea to keep a job where you despise the customers. Not for them (they may never know) but for you. Doing something you hate will always grind you down sooner or later.

 

Jeff

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>"Nick" I stood up to you on Atkol and I'll stand up to you

>on here...we both know that Hairy is NOT over the top on his

>comments about "He Who Shall Not Be Named". For some

>pathetic, bizzar reason you support the outsider, non porn

>industry, wannabe known as "He Who Shall Not Be Named".

>EVERYBODY in the gay porn industry knows he's NOTHING but a

>shill for David Forest. PERIOD.

 

Well thank you, dear. You are starting to sound a little more rational than you did on ATKOL. I suppose that the doctor has finally found the right combination of meds for you. How quaint.

 

As for what "everybody knows", I would love to know it as well, but I can't ever get anyone to provide specifics. It almost seems as though the reason that everyone hates "HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED" is because you are supposed to hate "HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED". E-mail me at bewareofpeter@hotmail.com or BewareofNick@aol.com if anyone would care to enlighten me.

 

I have "taken his side" as it were, simply because I know for a fact that the things he has published about Anthony Holloway and Scott Bradley are true. So, if I know that, whether you agree with me or not, then it tends to suggest that perhaps he has been wrongly accused of things in other cases as well. Perhaps. He may very well be guilty of all he has been accussed of, but based solely on what I know to be true, I have my doubts.

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>"Nick" I stood up to you on Atkol and I'll stand up to you

>on here...we both know that Hairy is NOT over the top on his

>comments about "He Who Shall Not Be Named". For some

>pathetic, bizzar reason you support the outsider, non porn

>industry, wannabe known as "He Who Shall Not Be Named".

>EVERYBODY in the gay porn industry knows he's NOTHING but a

>shill for David Forest. PERIOD.

 

Well thank you, dear. You are starting to sound a little more rational than you did on ATKOL. I suppose that the doctor has finally found the right combination of meds for you. How quaint.

 

As for what "everybody knows", I would love to know it as well, but I can't ever get anyone to provide specifics. It almost seems as though the reason that everyone hates "HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED" is because you are supposed to hate "HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED". E-mail me at bewareofpeter@hotmail.com or BewareofNick@aol.com if anyone would care to enlighten me.

 

I have "taken his side" as it were, simply because I know for a fact that the things he has published about Anthony Holloway and Scott Bradley are true. So, if I know that, whether you agree with me or not, then it tends to suggest that perhaps he has been wrongly accused of things in other cases as well. Perhaps. He may very well be guilty of all he has been accussed of, but based solely on what I know to be true, I have my doubts.

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Funny how BON goes silent when He Who Shall Not Be Named has a hemmorhoid flareup, and as soon as he goes silent BON shows up again.

 

As soon as I stop getting mail barrages from He Who Shall Not Be Named, BON shows up again supporting him.

 

So, BON, you agree that HWSNBN is a medical expert? How else to you explain his proclamation (as a medical opinion) that Jeff Palmer is naturally immune to the HIV virus? (After Palmer himself admitted a year ago to being POZ?)

 

The rest of his stuff is just about as accurate.

 

You wanna line up with that? Fine.

 

Harry Bitsch

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Funny how BON goes silent when He Who Shall Not Be Named has a hemmorhoid flareup, and as soon as he goes silent BON shows up again.

 

As soon as I stop getting mail barrages from He Who Shall Not Be Named, BON shows up again supporting him.

 

So, BON, you agree that HWSNBN is a medical expert? How else to you explain his proclamation (as a medical opinion) that Jeff Palmer is naturally immune to the HIV virus? (After Palmer himself admitted a year ago to being POZ?)

 

The rest of his stuff is just about as accurate.

 

You wanna line up with that? Fine.

 

Harry Bitsch

Editor, cockring.org

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