The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

[Guest heydude]

I'm new to the area and new to this board. I have no idea what this "scam" is all about. Are some of these escorts "ficticious" ?

Do they cheat you? What's the deal dudes?

I need someone!!!! Especially if he looks like Mike Alexander, the webmaster of http://www.surfboys.com !!!

Thanks guys for your responses. Yeah.... no babysitters!!

 

*heydude*

[BewareofNick]

If you have no idea what this "scam" is all about, how do you know there is such a "scam" in the first place? What might you be referring to?

[Guest heydude]

Read my first post in the Lounge, then my second post in the Deli regarding locating a specific escort. heydude

[+ glutes]

Well I hate to repeat myself, but:

Don't bother with 'RickyTeen', he is purpotedly all part of a scam going on in the Bay Area.

Check-out the following escorts listed under Northern California, they all have the smae M.O. (AOL address, no or inactive phone, first time reveiwers {if not not interviewed by SoCalScottie}, $200-220/hour fee {even high for SF}, and a silly two word stage name!!

 

BillyBoy CorySport DannyDamon DannyYoung RyanKidd FratBoyBryan RickyTeen SoCalScottie DaveGoodbar

 

Other threads have been started on this, check the archives out 'HeyDude'.

[DICKNLA]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

Hi There,

 

I have hired Cory Sport on three different occasions and had a great time. He was late on the first visit but it was worth the wait. The second visit I called him when I got into town and we agreed on a time and he made it. The third was about the same. I had made appointments with Ricky Teen twice and he had confirmed them via AOL but I never made contact with him directly, both times he was a no show. The second time I actually spoke with some one who claimed to be Ricky and he appoligized saying that he was writing a paper for college. We chatted for about 10 minutes and then about an hour latter he called back with a replacement for him. I declined. Cory did claim that he know Ricky and that he was a good guy. I can vouch for Cory as I had a great time with him

[Huey]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

Hey the whole "DUDE" thing is so last decade, and your post are so red flagged, carry on dude.

[+ glutes]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

To Dicknla, yes -there is a person behind all this, most probably the same one who just keep re-marketing himself every few months. That is the point.

And Huey, thank you for catching on. I'm sure we are not alone!!

[BewareofNick]

All posted on Americanmale.net at the same time

 

Whoever these scam artists are, they are not very bright. While checking the listings on AmericanMale.net, I saw this under the new listings section:

 

Timmy Prep San Francisco California Updated

Socal Scottie San Francisco California New Listing

Billy Boy San Francisco California Updated

Dean San Francisco California Updated

Kevin Slater San Francisco California Updated

Dave Goodbar San Francisco California Updated

 

This is the entry for BillyBoy:

 

I'm 18 year old Billy and I'm very boyish and a rad skateboarding dude. I'm affectionate, cheerful, and very very highly sexed. I'm 7" cut, affectionate, smooth, a great kisser and versatile. I only see one client per day and I charge $220 for my services. I'm into all kinds of guys/girls of all backgrounds and ages and body types. Most customers say that I look very very young, so I always have ID to show that I'm honestly over 18 years old. People say that I have a nice, sunny disposition and that I really enjoy my work. I do outcalls all over the San Francisco Bay Area, and I hope you like my look so we can hook up. Thanks!

 

Very similar to Danny Damon

 

Stay away from these boys. They are bad news.

[BewareofNick]

RE: All posted on Americanmale.net at the same time

 

Here's another one to add to the list (along with old timer Cory Sport)

 

I'm an extremely masculine, straight-acting stud with a huge cock that's nearly 9" long and extremely extremely thick. My lovers nicknamed me "beercan", so you get the idea. I'm a terrific topman who loves to fuck men and women of all races, shapes, sizes and ages. I charge $200 and I'm available for outcalls in San Francisco starting on Thursday September 19th. I'll be in town for around a week or more, so please e-mail me to set up a date. If you want the best topman who really knows how to fuck, with an enormous cock, then I'm your stud. I'm also a great kisser and I'm very affectionate with my clients. Thanks!

 

Contact Shawn Thick

 

You gotta love these names tho.

[BewareofNick]

RE: All posted on Americanmale.net at the same time

 

and yet another:

 

I'm a young, 20 year old jock who is all American, collegiate, masculine and wholesome. I'm tall (6'2") and lean with a genuinely huge 8" uncut tool that I know how to use very skillfully as a top. I'm also versatile as a great bottom. I'm friendly, affectionate, passionate and a terrific kisser. Customers tell me that I remind them of a hot high school varsity basketball captain or football quarterback, hence my name. I charge $225 and I do outcalls all over the San Francisco Bay Area. Sexually I'm exceptionally virile and I'm always horny and eager to get off, constantly with a big hard-on in my pants, hoping someone will help me shoot a big load out of my big fat cock.

 

Contact Joey Varsity

[BewareofNick]

RE: All posted on Americanmale.net at the same time

 

Original scammers AJ, Dillon Vaughn and Danny Young (aka the infamous Danny Damon) are also listed on the site.

[HooBoy]

Hey "Dude"

 

There is a guy, Franklin Sonu in San Franscisco who also goes by the name of Yoko who created Danny Damon.

 

On this one, I agree with Beware of Nick and I think Franklin is behind all these guys.

 

I am holding off on all reviews of them until somone with credibility or myself checks them out.

 

I do not know what the rationale is for it other than just getting his tiny rocks off on playing with us.

[DICKNLA]

I'm pretty sure Yoko is the guy who delivered and picked up Cory all three times we met. The first time we met, Cory and I went down to the bar afterwards and had a couple of cocktails, he called Yoko up about 1/2 an hour later and he came and joined us. He only had a soda but we chatted for another 45 minutes. He seemd like a nice enough guy but I did get the impression he was the driving force behind the group of boys. He also returned Cory's calls for him a couple of times when Cory was busy.

[HooBoy]

Yup...I had a lot of phone conversations with "Damon" who was absolutely charming....turns out it was Yoko who woo'd me.

 

Then, when I actually talked to Damon, he told me about the whole scam. He had problems and he revealed them to me but it was between me and him.

 

Franklin (Yoko) made a lot of donations to this site and then contacted PayPal and took them all back.

 

Not only did I lose the money he sent me, PayPal charged me extra for charge-back.

[Guest msagget]

OK this has me curious. It appears that some guy is "representing" several guys and that when he adversites for them, it is usually in the same "terminology". Is there something wrong with that? From postings here, a "scam" is alleged. If so, what is the scam?

Is having an "agent" or whatever you want to call him considered to be a "scam"?. So Cory Sport, who someone here says was a very satisfactory experience, also represented by this guy. Again, is that something to be wary of? Nick shows examples of their ads but I am unable to see what is improper about them? Are they false? Has anyone engaged these guys and been ripped off by them?

Exactly what have these guys done to make them so unsavory?

[HooBoy]

Scam is probably the wrong word, but I did not start this thread.

 

I was only addressing some issues about these guys.

 

They may all be legit, but until *I* personally check them out or someone with credibility around here like Mark who is a twink lover, I am holding off on all the reviews from them.

 

You'll notice that each one of their AOL websites are identical.

 

Doesn't mean a thing. They may have an agent and he may be orchestrating their careers and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

Like I said in an earlier post, this guy "Yoko" may be doing this just to get his tiny rocks off.

 

There are some twisted people out there. I am only trying to take extra care to save you guys time because time is money.

[+ glutes]

Well thanks for your input HooBoy. Right on!!

The 'scam', I believe, is that these are all one and the same escort being marketed. Is there anything wrong with it, not necessarily, other than the fact it is a waste of our time and money. Also, speaking for myself(!), getting all wound - up over the entry of a new twink to the Bay Area, only to find out it is a re-packaging.

My only face to face with any of these chaps was Danny Damon. He lived up to his picture, but I instantly got the creeps from him (not to mention he had bad breath, braces, green teeth and wrinkled brown polyester pants). As soon as he told me he was a struggling student getting his Masters degree at Berkeley, I gave him $20 walking away money and departed.

[Guest msagget]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

"

The 'scam', I believe, is that these are all one and the

same escort being marketed. Is there anything wrong with it,

not necessarily, other than the fact it is a waste of our

time and money. .........

My only face to face with any of these chaps was Danny Damon.

He lived up to his picture, but I instantly got the creeps

from him (not to mention he had bad breath, braces, green

teeth and wrinkled brown polyester pants)."

 

I find it difficult to accept this as a scam because you feel that all these "ads" refer to the same escort.Of course you imply yourself that it is not necessarily wrong. Since you did see "face to face" Danny Damon and I at least have seen several pics of Cory Sport, are you saying that Danny Damon and Cory Sport are one and the same person? Cory has several positive reviews (as well as negative one to which he replied to).

You got the "creeps" from Damon because ??? He had bad breath,(this is unacceptable) braces,green teeth( since he goes to the expense of having braces, I find it difficult to accept that he doesn't brush his teeth and that they are "green") and wrinkled brown polyester pants (well that's certainly a reason to accuse him of being in a scam...all of which are reasons for me to question his integrity.

At least Hooboy has "our" interest at heart in stating that he is in the process of investigating all of these guys which are being maligned here. However I would hate to think that an escort is not given the benefit of the doubt when accusations are being hurled about their "deceiving" potential clients for the reasons stated here.

I am trying to be neutral in this posting but I don't think that your remarks re: "braces, green teeth,wrinkled polyster BROWN pants" are reasons to assume that Danny, Cory, and all the others are "one and the same person" trying to scam us.

If indeed they are all involved in some sort of conspiracy then THEY SHOULD BE EXPOSED for what they are. However, if all of this is not shown to be so, then these escorts reputations have been damaged needlessly. I also feel that if they are all represented by ONE PERSON who does their bookings, advertising, etc. that THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.Escort Agencies do that. I would hate to think that I am hiring Cory Sport only to find that Danny Damon, green teeth and wrinkled pants and all shows up at my door.

[seeker630]

I emailed "FratBoy Bryan" today and received the following reply:

 

Hi,

I'm not available for a few weeks, but I'm referring clients to my pal TimmyPrep who is very similar to me and has my highest recommendation. http://www.hometown.aol.com/TimmyPrep and can be reached via email at TimmyPrep@aol.com and 415-225-5607

 

 

The reply came within an hour of my original send. Has the sound of an automated response.

[+ deej]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

I tend to agree with you about remaining neutral, but where there's smoke.... ya know?

 

HooBoy rarely holds reviews for this kind of vetting, and he rarely tells all that's going on behind the curtain. I tend to trust him when he takes these actions because in the end he turns up right.

 

If this is all just a ploy for publicity, it's working. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but as long as the boys live up to their publicity I won't complain much. The thing is that we don't know which it is.

 

If I was in SF, I'd gladly check 'em out. So I suppose their publicity is working for *them*. I'm just not sure I'd enjoy the process, which means their publicity is definitely NOT working for *us*.

 

Calling Marc Anthony.... :+

[marc anthony]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

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>Calling Marc Anthony.... :+

 

I have never actually ever met one of these cute guys (which says a lot in and of itself!lol)

 

A friend of mine who I trust said that he had a very good time with Cory Sport.

 

I once tried to arrange a date with Ricky Teen. It became more trouble than it was worth.

 

I have not had any bad experience with any of them, and I can't say that I have concrete evidence that there is necessarily anything malicious about the "group."

 

Suffice it to say that I am braver than most in meeting up with unreviewed cute twinks who hang out in AOL chatrooms and have found some great diamonds in the rough. And even though I am in SF a lot, I have never met any of these guys, and probably will not.

[Huey]

RE: The

 

As always Marc stated the situation well. In fact on one trip to the bay area I personally know he imported a few escorts from another city ... now if that doesn't make you concerned about these guys (who fit Marc's genre) then you must not have any oxygen headed to the brain .

 

To those who do not feel there is a scam ... you're wrong. There have been fake reviews that HooBoy discovered and pulled, I believe at least one no show and in general a lot of bad press about these guys, if the plural is appropriate, here and on other boards.

 

Nothing wrong in someone having a manager or agent, well technically in California it is against the law though several do so. David Forest the scam of the last three decades comes to mind. Anyway, I stray . What is wrong, however, is when somebody is deceiving.

 

I had two personal bad experiences trying to set up appointments with Ricky Teen and Billy18Boy. I don't believe the guys in the pictures actually escort.

 

I am planning a trip up north. Once I can get confirmation either way I'll call HooBoy and let him know my personal finding.

[Huey]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

As BoN mentioned, You have to love their marketing names. Maybe instead of wasting so much time trying to fuck people over they/he/it should use this talent in public relations.

[+ glutes]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

B.O. Nick & Huey, thanks for the rational support here.

 

scam, n.: to cheat or swindle, as in a confidence game

[BewareofNick]

RE: The "alleged" scam in SF ???? What can you tell me?

 

You're welcome. I remember at one point, and i know Hooboy will correct me if I am wrong, but Danny Damon/Young was actually on the run from or under investigation by the SFPD in realtion to an escort call where he stole from a client.

 

There was also an issue with Cory Sport where his picture (the really hot professional looking one) was called into question. AN entity came on here and claimed that Cory looked EXACTLY like that picture and did so quite vehemently. Then Marc Anthony's friend hired him and stated quite categorically that Cory did NOT look like his pic. Then miraculously, new pics of Cory appeared with only a passing resemblance to the original. The entity also talked about Cory's magnificant body, yet the reviewer quite accuratley informed us that it was nice, but not rock hard by any means.

 

I don't make accusations lightly, and even though Hooboy and I disagree on at least one escort, I think we are 100% in agreement on this issue.