Los Angeles Frontiers Ads

[Guest Mikki]

When I am in LA, I am very hesitant to call an escort that advertises in the local version of Frontiers magazine. Especially the print only ads, as one never knows what they are going to be surprised with. Someone told me some of the ads have run for a long time and the age stated always is thirty. Is there a site or publication that reviews some of these advertisers? I was also warned that once they used ads to trap johns, but I found that a bit paranoid. But There is an absolute cornucopia of available "models/escorts" selling their wares, that one is totally befuddled in one's hotel after reading these ads.

[Guest Kalifornia]

>When I am in LA, I am very hesitant to call an escort that

>advertises in the local version of Frontiers magazine.

>Especially the print only ads, as one never knows what they

>are going to be surprised with. Someone told me some of the

>ads have run for a long time and the age stated always is

>thirty. Is there a site or publication that reviews some of

>these advertisers?

 

Ummm let me think for a minute, hmmm a site that reviews escorts, mmmm I just can't think of one, hey your guess is as good as mine (shrug)

 

Now on to other Frontiers the ads that is. Yes, many have run for years. The pics never change, the stats never change so I do not hire guys from this publication. Now if I only could find an escort review site i probably could find a few hot guys in Los Angeles, Oh Well.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest Mikki]

I suppose I answered the question clumsily. Succinctly I was wondering if there were specific reviews for the Frontier advertisers.

I know where to check for other escorts, but no one ever reviews the guys that appear in the print ads in Frontiers.

[Guest Jocoluver]

"no one ever reviews the guys that appear in the print ads in Frontiers."

 

AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!!

(omit the "print" it's same for web edition.)

 

either these guys are the best kept secrets of the nellie BH queens, or no one ever hires them - in which case how do they afford to pay for their ads.

 

(Except for "Kenny" who has same ad/pic for 20 years; stay away, as has been docmented many times over the years. Oh, and Scott Sloan who has new ads but same reputation)

[Guest Slammy]

Good thoughts. A while back I hired one who has quite a long ad,

I can't remember the title....something like break you in or something like that. It was a bad experience. The guy did not advertise as a black man which was okay. He had wood problems, it didn't stay hard. He was not built like the ad said physically, and was no way near the ten inches he advertised. He was not a muscular dude like the ad said.

[Guest Dan]

I run an ad in Frontiers and have been reivewed here as do several of the other guys...and yes, I have a print only ad. But, I will be putting my new webpage address in the ad:

 

http://gaydar.co.uk/dandarela

[Guest Jocoluver]

And Slammy, did you submit a review of your bad experience to hooboy's site? hhmmmm . . .

 

Do all of you who use this site feel any obligation to give back to it by submitting reviews, good/bad/indifferent? If you don't, it seems kind of selfish to me.

 

As for "several" of the frontier guys having reviews here, if so, the % is tiny compared to the number of ads appearing in the magazine. So someone is hiring a lot of these guys and keeping it a secret.

 

x(

[Guest ohioguy13]

I agree with alot of the ads in frontiers. There is one guy...looks hot but has been "newin town" for at least 10 years.

One I can Vouch for that is truley HOT id Trent Cougar...6'3" 220 hard muscles hot body...GREAT time!!!

[Guest Jocoluver]

So of course there is no review of Trent Cougar posted here at Hooboy's site (nor can I find his ad in Frontiers website).

 

The LA frontiers clients have got to be the most selfish bunch of queens in the US of A!

 

I used to (not so jokingly) bug hooboy that he was deliberately failing to post reviews of escorts from west of the Mississippi as if the western half of USA didn't exist. There have been many more reviews from LA in past 6 months but few of the frontiers escorts.

 

And here we have 2 examples (1 good, 1 bad) without reviews. I have known of Trent from over at Muscle Service Station but not how to contact him or that he had a Frontiers ad (which I can't find).

 

Is it really that difficult for the fruits and nuts in LaLaLand to submit reviews? Oh, you want us to think you're all getting it for free!!

 

x(

[Boston Guy]

>And here we have 2 examples (1 good, 1 bad) without reviews.

> I have known of Trent from over at Muscle Service Station

>but not how to contact him or that he had a Frontiers ad

>(which I can't find).

>

>Is it really that difficult for the fruits and nuts in

>LaLaLand to submit reviews? Oh, you want us to think you're

>all getting it for free!!

>

> x(

 

May I kindly suggest than when individuals post information anywhere on this site they do it out of an interest in helping other guys.

 

Such postings are neither mandatory nor required in any way. Your comments above seem to indicate a feeling that people who hire escorts should feel compelled to submit information here about their experience and should be disparaged if they do not do so.

 

If you really want to know about the guys in Frontiers, hire some.

 

BG

[Guest Jocoluver]

I have hired and I have posted reviews. I have quit using Frontiers because I have this site and its increased safety. That doesn't mean Frontiers does not have some potentially attractive candidates. And we both know those frontiers escorts are being hired by someone. Why can't they be reviewed?? I don't know why not and neither does Hooboy.

 

I don't think Hooboy worked hard to create and maintain this site for off hand sporadic buried comments about escorts. He has done it for extremely important reasons that have not suddenly disappeared in this new century.

 

So I am disparaging those who use the product of his labors and offer little or nothing in return.

 

After all, have we all forgotten the dangers inherent in hiring unreviewed escorts and how this website helps enormously in circumventing many of those risks.

 

So I do shout "SELFISH" at those who take and don't give back to this important and valuable resource we have been given by George Washington Hooboy!

[Boston Guy]

>I have hired and I have posted reviews. I have quit using

>Frontiers because I have this site and its increased safety.

 

Are you suggesting that it's unsafe to hire escorts who are not reviewed here?? Or, instead, that you don't prefer to hire escorts who are not reviewed here?

 

Is this an issue of safety? Or one in which you believe you are more likely to have a satisfying experience with an escort who is reviewed here.

 

 

> That doesn't mean Frontiers does not have some potentially

>attractive candidates. And we both know those frontiers

>escorts are being hired by someone. Why can't they be

>reviewed?? I don't know why not and neither does Hooboy.

>

 

Clearly because people who are hiring those guys don't want to submit reviews here. Since Frontiers is primarily a print medium, I suspect that many of the people who hire escorts advertising in Frontiers do so out of the magazine. They may well be guys who don't use the Web or aren't familiar with this site.

 

Do you honestly believe that more than the tiniest fraction of escort experiences that are happening in the US and around the world on a daily basis end up being reviewed here??

 

 

>I don't think Hooboy worked hard to create and maintain

>this site for off hand sporadic buried comments about

>escorts. He has done it for extremely important reasons

>that have not suddenly disappeared in this new century.

>

 

Well, perhaps, but as good as it is, let's not forget that HB also saw a business opportunity and decided to take advantage of it -- something that I congratulate him on.

 

 

>So I am disparaging those who use the product of his labors

>and offer little or nothing in return.

>

 

There are many ways of contributing to this site. Posting reviews is only one of them. And there are those, including myself, who view the reviews as being fairly full of misinformation, some of it purposeful.

 

If you are depending on them as Gospel, I fear you are being misled. If someone who advertised in Frontiers suddenly had a review submitted, would you feel differently about hiring that escort? What if the review was of a first-time reviewer? What if it was a three-time reviewer, but all of the reviews were of escorts advertising in Frontiers? The point I'm making is that it's quite easy for someone who is determined to do so to manipulate the review process.

 

Many, if not most, of the guys I hire are not reviewed here. I have never found any correlation between the quality of the experience and whether the person was reviewed or not.

 

 

>After all, have we all forgotten the dangers inherent in

>hiring unreviewed escorts and how this website helps

>enormously in circumventing many of those risks.

>

 

What dangers? If I had to go out on a limb, I'd say I would give more credence to escorts who participate in the Message Center than perhaps to others who don't, simply because they become known quantities to me. But how does a single review for an escort suddenly eliminate the risk of hiring that person?

 

>So I do shout "SELFISH" at those who take and don't give

>back to this important and valuable resource we have been

>given by George Washington Hooboy!

 

Again, I suggest that you consider the word "voluntary". People who come here are under no obligation to submit or participate in any way whatsoever. People support HB simply by coming to this site. That traffic is what allows him to generate advertising revenue. If someone decides to participate in addition to stopping by, perhaps that person can be thanked. But calling someone who chooses not to selfish seems to me to be getting the issue quite backwards.

 

BG

[Boink]

Jocoluver, Trent Couger IS reviewed on this site under 'Craig #2', southern California. His ads in the recent issues of FRONTIERS (printed version) have been absent, so they won't be on the latest online version either. Keep checking...

[Boink]

What kills me about the sad lack of quality escorts in LA is how few hot escorts even VISIT here with any regularity! I can't believe I live here amongst so many porn stars, and yet I sit here DROOLING over all the hot pics advertising out of New York, and their frequent visitors from Florida and Canada. Not to mention Chicago and Texas!x(

[+ glutes]

I also agree with lack of 'talent' for the LA area. As a Bay Arean who has visited twice down there over the last year - I don't think I'd visit down there again for the boys, 'Brogan' is the best you can do??? (I mention Brogan because he seems to have the most favorable reviews - although he stretches his stats...)Also, $250/hour??? There is now a SF escort demanding $400/hour!!!

That is why my next vacation wil be discovering the Boys of Brazil.

[N.N.]

> ... Also, $250/hour??? There is now a SF

>escort demanding $400/hour!!!

 

For even more exclamation points, ask Scott Adler

(L.A., reviewed here 8/26) what his rates are.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>What kills me about the sad lack of quality escorts in LA is

>how few hot escorts even VISIT here with any regularity!

 

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps business is so good that they really don't NEED this site??

 

Thunderbuns

[Boink]

>What kills me about the sad lack of quality escorts in LA is

>how few hot escorts even VISIT here with any regularity!

 

>>>Did it ever occur to you that perhaps business is so good that they really don't NEED this site??<<<

 

Huh??

[Boston Guy]

>What kills me about the sad lack of quality escorts in LA is

>how few hot escorts even VISIT here with any regularity! I

>can't believe I live here amongst so many porn stars, and

>yet I sit here DROOLING over all the hot pics advertising

>out of New York, and their frequent visitors from Florida

>and Canada. Not to mention Chicago and Texas!x(

 

I guess we each see what we look for.

 

I'm in LA frequently -- every three or four weeks, at least. I always think it of being sort of "escort central." But then again, I like young guys, just out of college, preppy, blond/blue -- that sort of boy-next-door look that West Hollywood is crawling with (all the actor-wannabees from Iowa). So it's easy for me to be happy there. I've had other guys who prefer older escorts say it's harder for them to find escorts they like.

 

BG

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>But then again, I like young guys, just out of college, preppy,

>blond/blue -- that sort of boy-next-door look

 

You're a man after my own heart, having just described my favorite look to a "T"

 

>that West Hollywood is crawling with (all the actor-wannabees from

>Iowa).

 

I'm movin' there tomorrow! :-)

 

Thunderbuns

[+ glutes]

BostonGuy - please do share with us how you track down these blond/blu specialties. It certainly isn't here or Frontiers!!

[Boston Guy]

Hi -

 

No, it isn't here or Frontiers. Although I have hired from Frontiers in the past, I've found it to be too much hit or miss to use much now (although I now know or at least have met a fair number of the "regulars" over the years).

 

And it isn't from here. As much as everyone always advises people to only hire guys who are reviewed here, I find that I am often happier with other methods.

 

A couple of weeks ago, I was in LA and went through every single escort reviewed in Southern CA. Many of the ads are way out of date or are even for guys who haven't been escorting there for a long time. Frankly, I value the reviews solely as a place to see pictures of escorts. I almost never read the text of the reviews, unless there is some controversy in the Message Center that forces me to go read the full text of a review so I might understand what is going on in the Message Center.

 

When I'm in LA -- which is frequently -- I either call one of my regular guys or use the AOL chatrooms or online directory to locate guys. I can't remember a time when it took more than a couple of hours of occasional checking to find someone interesting online. Since I do a great deal of work online when I'm on the road, checking the chatrooms or the online directory generally is easy, fast and hardly a distraction.

 

Most of the guys I end up hiring are part-time escorts who are pursuing other careers. They don't want to escort fulltime, don't want to have any print ads and don't want (REALLY DON"T WANT) to be revieweded, here or elsewhere. That's not because of a worry that they won't stack up, but rather because they (a) don't want their pic and screen name being bandied about the Internet and (b) don't want much in the way of new clients.

 

Everyone goes about it their own way. Ten days ago, I met a recent college grad online. He's 22, 5'11", blond, green eyes, smart, fun and interesting. He was in the West Hollywood M4M room when I saw him. He has a girlfriend and a fulltime job but wants to escort parttime in order to (a) make some extra money and (b) experiement with what he calls "the guy thing". He's terrific and anyone could find him and hire him if they watched the West Hollywood M4M room for a day or so, checking in at regular intervals.

 

When hiring guys, I like to email them first and then, if their response is interesting, chat with them online. Only after that goes well would I want to talk to them on a person-to-person basis.

 

The AOL M4M chatrooms for LA and West Hollywood are great places to meet the kind of smart, young, fun escort I've described. Or at least they have been for me.

 

BG

[Guest Slammy]

Boston Guy,

 

I enjoy all your postings, and in fact read these message boards looking for your "essays".....I know we all like our anonymity, but are you a professor. I am also impressed with the level of intellectual breadth on this site...........I hate most message boards as the contributors are cretins. I think sexual obsession and intellect are very compatible. Bill Clinton comes to mind.

[Guest Charon]

I would review, but last time I tried, Hooboy wanted my phone number to call me to verify the review. I can't fault him for it, but I'm also not giving it to him, so no reviews from me.

[Guest ncm2169]

BG, would you be good enough to share more 411 on this 22 y/o you hired? I'll be in LA next month, and I'm also struggling with choices and how to make them. I have ZERO experience in that market, and I'm not sure I'll have online access when I'm there (otherwise I'd browse the AOL chatrooms). IF you want to talk to me "privately", tell me how I give you my email address (do I have to post it here for all the world to see?) x( Thanks in advance for any help you can give! ;-)