Sean ARmstrong back?

[Guest kaseywoods]

I see on today's reviews that Sean Armstrong is back escorting. Does anyone have any information about where he is actually setting up shop or any phone numbers and e-mail addresses?

 

Thank you all! :9

[Barry]

>I see on today's reviews that Sean Armstrong is back

>escorting. Does anyone have any information about where he

>is actually setting up shop or any phone numbers and e-mail

>addresses?

 

OR whether he has his act together now and won't pull the shit he did last time he lived here?

[BuckyXTC]

>OR whether he has his act together now and won't pull the

>shit he did last time he lived here?

 

Barry:

 

I'm so glad you raised this issue. I rarely get to Chicago, but had seriously considered a special trip to see Sean last year. Then the Sean & Casey enterprise unraveled and some nice folks got left holding the bag. I also noticed a week or so back that Casey was also escorting again. Let's hope they've both learned some lessons and that they will be reputable and fair in the future.

[Guest Kalifornia]

>

>OR whether he has his act together now and won't pull the

>shit he did last time he lived here?

 

Barry I am so happy you mentioned this so I can comment. I am one who was burned twidce by sean and Casey. The first time setting an appointment with them and the second with their agency. It cost me nearly 500. in airfare and hotel expenses. Never a word from either.

 

Also, they left without a thank you that would have at least lived up to the image even if it was far from reality. Casey returns about a month ago did anyone really feel Sean was far behind?

 

They might be goodlooking yet expensive, liars and have little rgard for clients. I will stay far away and advise others to do so as well.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest BigSquirt]

>I'm so glad you raised this issue. I rarely get to Chicago,

>but had seriously considered a special trip to see Sean last

>year.

 

Consider yourself fortunate that you didn't. These two have a well-deserved reputation in Chicago and elsewhere as being a pair of monumental liars and con artists--the kind of jerks that give all escorts a bad name. They have a lot of nerve to show their faces again, given the crap they've pulled.

 

Let's hope

>they've both learned some lessons and that they will be

>reputable and fair in the future.

 

Don't hold your breath. Given how they left the escorts working for their "agency" holding the bag, you can use this as a guide to their future behavior. Is anyone surprised that they so deservedly crashed and burned?

 

I guess there is one positive aspect to their return--maybe Casey will write some more fake reviews like the one he did for Cody Tyler, one of their escorts. Remember that phony review? The one about the 18-yr old who was "tired of the bar scene?" I howled with laughter when I read it, as did many on this board, based on their comments. Even HooBoy chimed in, if memory serves, about how obviously funny and fake it was.

 

Anyone who would consider hiring either of these two losers should have their head examined.

[Guest elwood]

I was "stood up" by Sean and Casey early in my escort hiring days and learned a valuable lesson: NEVER travel a great distance just to see an escort because if the escort is a flake..you have wasted your time and money. I now hire only when I am traveling to a city on business and would be there anyway.(unless,of course,the escort is in or near my city)Lots of recent threads and reviews have re-emphasized the strange things that can happen in the escort/client scene. There are so many issues hidden here on both sides of the equation:issues of self esteem,sexual addiction, risk taking (STD's,violence,arrest). My initial hiring was overboard and has now become quite rare. I try to keep respect for those I hire and tend more to stick with those escorts I have come to know a little. Sexual gratification and physical intimacy are still important to me and the best escorts are fantastic and quite professional at meeting those needs-- and worth the money. But while my head often turns at a handsome young face or hot body..I have now gained a wider perspective on it. I'm still learning at lot about my own inner issues and there are plenty I have yet to deal with . Perhaps Sean and Casey are more professional now or perhaps they are relying on short memories. If they have changed for the better, I wish them luck...if not..I wish their prospective clients luck.

[Guest Kalifornia]

Perhaps Sean and Casey are more professional now

>or perhaps they are relying on short memories.

 

elwood they must be relying on very short memories. It was less than 2 months ago when Casey returned to escorting for "2 weeks only." It was posted on this site that he would be available for a "limited time" well so much for the time limit.

 

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[BuckyXTC]

I'm sorry to hear that so many folks here got burned by these two. I'm really surprised that Sean and Casey didn't restart their escorting activities with new names to get over on folks who didn't know their previous reputations. There are certainly plenty of nice, beautiful, reliable escorts out there with more appeal than this duo. Guess I'd also wonder why someone would want to take a chance on hiring them with their track record. All the better that his thread was started, it will hopefully be seen by those who might fall into the trap.

[Like2Hire]

Fake review or not, Cody Tyler was (and I hope still is) evey bit as good as all his reviews attest. I submitted at least two of them! I just wish he was still available.

 

Sadly, I have some recent reason to believe that the Sean/Casey trashers might be on target. I hope I'm wrong and that these guys are legit, but..........

 

Anyway, Cody Tyler is no scheister and is more than worthy of every good review submitted in his behalf.:9

[Guest Kalifornia]

>I'm sorry to hear that so many folks here got burned by

>these two. I'm really surprised that Sean and Casey didn't

>restart their escorting activities with new names to get

>over on folks who didn't know their previous reputations.

>

 

Bucky there are two reason they did not restart using different names. One I will not go into, the main reason is their pictures have been out for many years and it would be hard to convince the vast majority of clients they were someone else. Also I think they have such contemp and disregard for lients they feel their looks alone will have the phone rining off the hook. And to be honest, I believe it probably is.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[BuckyXTC]

Mark:

 

I never found Casey that attractive, but Sean definitely had some appeal.....until I got the lowdown on how they headed off to Texas to start a new agency and left their colleagues behind, holding the bag. You're probably right, as was P.T. Barnum, who said "There's a sucker born every minute". I'm sure some folks, in spite of the warnings, won't be able to resist the urge to prove conventional wisdom about Sean and Casey wrong, and they'll get burned.

[KentuckyBoy]

While I have never met Sean or Casey, I did have the good fortune to spend an evening with Cody Tyler while in Chicago...he was top shelf! (I even submitted a very positive review to HooBoy on Cody, but it was never published...most likely HooBoy was wary after the infamous first review.) While I know that Sean and Casey acted considerably less than honorable to Cody, other escorts and to clients, I recollect some circumstances (as well as some reading between the lines) that might derail most of us...especially considering their youth: a death of a close family member; this death causing a soul searching and a coming to terms with one's sexuality and,perhaps, escorting;and expanding a business too fast and from a distance. Come on guys, give Sean and Casey a break. I will give 'em a call when I visit the Windy City. Best to Cody Tyler wherever he is.

[+ deej]

>I never found Casey that attractive

 

I found Casey plenty attractive. Particularly with his ankles wrapped around my neck and my cock up his ass. :+

 

I would have hired him again. I even talked with him about hiring them both since Casey used to advertise that he likes double penetration. But that was about the time all hell broke loose and I lost touch with them.

 

Now that they're back, I may have to give it a try again next time I'm in Chicago.

[Jeff]

What exactly happened when "all hell broke loose"? I had a very good experience with them, and I was always under the impression that they were pretty cool (based on reviews here of them and the boys who were on their site).... so it's surprising to hear all these negatives. Did something specific happen? Based on my own experience, I'd see them again.... unless there's a reason now that I shouldn't. Please advise!!

[+ deej]

>What exactly happened when "all hell broke loose"?

 

Nobody here really knows, but as you can see EVERYONE has an opinion.

x(

[Guest spankysdad]

I have not been able to hire Sean as of yet, but I will be now that I see he is back in Chicago.

I am confused on why there is such a backlash against these two young men,I fully understand clients can have bad experiences with escorts,I myself have written a few of those, but if we look back at the reviews for these two, I believe there are more postive than negative.

I use this website as a tool to guide me in the direction of the escorts that suit me, and can appreciate all reviews, both positive and negative.

I have written a review on Mr.Casey Wagner (#7 1-27-01), it is a glowing review I meant every word of it and hope anyone considering hiring him will read it as well. Since Casey returned to Chicago over the summer and decided to now stay and continue his services to us horny guys, I have corresponded with him a few times trying to book an appointment with him, unfortunatley I have been very busy and have not been able to.

I am looking forward in seeing him again, and now that Sean is back I am gonna finally fulfill my desire to have both of these extrordinary young men at the same time.

One last thing is anyone in Chicago considering either of these two, take in consideration the vast amount of positive reviews they have had, and not just see the bashing that has been currently on this site.

 

Thanks for your time

Dennis :7

[Guest Kalifornia]

>>What exactly happened when "all hell broke loose"?

>

>Nobody here really knows, but as you can see EVERYONE has an

>opinion.

>x(

 

I think it would be more appropriate to say nobody here knows the real truth. Just the continued lies, chaos, fake reviews and and total disregard for their clients is a start.

 

It makes no sense to rehash the details now. Some very respected people on his site have commented negatively about these two characters. If you respect these people then you will take to their advice, if not, them hey hire them.. have a ball.

 

How much warning does one need?

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest YFSC]

>What exactly happened when "all hell broke loose"? I had a

>very good experience with them, and I was always under the

>impression that they were pretty cool (based on reviews here

>of them and the boys who were on their site).... so it's

>surprising to hear all these negatives. Did something

>specific happen? Based on my own experience, I'd see them

>again.... unless there's a reason now that I shouldn't.

>Please advise!!

 

(I submitted this yesterday but it did not get posted (no I didn't hit Preview by mistake and I DID get the message that says my message is queued and waiting for the moderator). What gives?)

 

Yes, what happened? OK, maybe nobody knows for sure what the real story is, or the people that know don't want to say, but what were the outward manifestations of what happened? A year ago and more Sean and Casey were favorites of Hoo and the darlings of this site, even when they were still in Texas. They were the cream of the cream, had great reviews and people could not say enough good things about them. Then they moved to Chicago and if anything the praise got more lavish. Then they started their own agency and everyone was ga-ga over that. (I was kind of dubious about that because I didn't think that a couple of young 19-21 y.o. kids had the maturity or experience or business sense to handle the problems that can sometimes arise in a business of that sort, but everyone was so enthusiastic about them that I decided to keep my mouth shut.) They had several hot guys working for them and things seemed to be going well, and their guys were getting great reviews. OK there was the Cody Tyler fake review fiasco but people seemed to want to forgive that as a youthful and inexperienced indiscretion. Then they went to open a Texas branch, kinda too soon - more inexperience.

 

I was away from here for a few months, and when I came back several months ago Sean was 'no longer escorting', and Casey was 'no longer escorting', and their guys were 'no longer escorting'. Obviously something happened and they crashed and burned. I thought maybe they had been caught in a police raid or something. Then Casey came back a few weeks ago and Sean just came back and out came this torrent of negative comments about no shows and con men and holding the bag and mysterious reference to "what they did". What is it that they were doing? How come that didn't show up in the reviews? How were their clients and the escorts that were working for them being affected? This is only partly curiosity. There must be something there, some kind of warning sign that clients and escorts should watch out for. One of the main reasons this board exists is to give people that kind of information.

 

And what's with the disappearing reviews? Sean, Casey and some of their guys were marked as 'no longer escorting' and their pictures were down, but the reviews were there, at least a while ago. But for some of their guys the reviews and everything else were gone and there was no trace of them. Reviews of 'retired' escorts usually remain on the site. Sometimes retired escorts write in and ask or demand that the reviews be taken down, and they are told that the pictures can come down but the reviews remain up 'for posterity'. So where are the reviews for the Elite guys?

[Guest BigSquirt]

I suspect that there are more than a few people who know the real story about these con artists, but criticism of these two darlings of this site has always been problematic. If this post meets the light of day, I’ll be mighty surprised. Anyone who’d dare mention the real story about these two is automatically accused of “trashing them”, or spreading rumor, accusations, innuendo, theories, etc. They've always bragged to other escorts and clients that they were the untouchable favorites of this site. And Sean and Casey have managed to float so many sob story lies about “family problems/deaths in the family,” “coming to terms with sexuality” etc. that everyone merely repeats the same old lies they spin as an excuse for their hijinks. These guys are masters in the art of propaganda, and have many willing (and, sadly, unsuspecting) accomplices.

 

The reason these two fled Houston and set up shop in Chicago in the first place was because Sean was on the run from the law in Texas. When he left the country and tried to re-enter the U.S. after they set up shop in Chicago, he was busted by immigration authorities, thrown in jail in Chicago, and sent back to Texas and eventually put on several years’ probation. The official Sean & Casey lie/propaganda was that he was “out of the country on family business.” Hence the reason for Sean’s disappearance and supposed relocation of their “agency” to Texas. (another fabrication that’s been repeated and exposed here, since they never did set up an “agency” in Texas)

 

And of course when they did pull out from Chicago when Casey returned to Texas after Sean was in the slammer, they left their escorts working for their “agency” holding the bag with the lease on a rented apartment. Exceptional guys, huh? And my mention of Sean and Casey’s fake review of Cody Tyler was not a shot at Cody...merely another demonstration of what habitual liars Sean and Casey are. Cody Tyler used to work for First Call Escorts in Chicago. I hired him twice then before he got tangled up with Sean and Casey and thought he was a hell of a great escort and a truly nice kid. Sean and Casey snagged him from First Call and he became their star escort. They used him for all he was worth and then left him high and dry. That alone is reason enough never to hire these guys, not to mention the way they treat their clients, as other long-time posters have described above.

 

Incidentally, Cody is alive and well, has left escorting, and put the whole Sean and Casey experience behind him, and he’s a better person for it. I wish him the best, too.

 

How Sean managed to recently resurface in Chicago while still on probation in Texas is an interesting question—and a fact that a potential client should be aware of when considering hiring these guys. I suspect that hiring an escort who has left the state where he’s on parole (and no doubt on the run again) could be a potentially dangerous proposition for a client. Let’s see—that makes four compelling reasons to stay away from these guys.

 

Makes perfect sense that Casey would return to Chicago first to test the waters (“for a few weeks” as he said initially— yet another lie), then Sean would follow suit. After cooling their heels in Texas and waiting for the right opportunity (and no doubt because they’re out of cash), they’ve fled Texas again for Chicago, where their never-ending line up of apologists will drum up support for them. Hmm...any bets on how long it will be before they disappear again?

 

And a previous poster above has raised a mighty interesting point—why were their pics and reviews (and those of the guys working for their “agency”) taken down in the first place after they disappeared? And why isn’t Sean Armstrong currently listed in the Chicago escorts section of this site if he’s “officially returned”? If you think it’s because something smells fishy, well, you’re right. Proceed with extreme caution.

[+ deej]

>It makes no sense to rehash the details now.

 

Yeah, why bother confusing the issue with facts? Let innuendo and accusations stand on their own two feet.

 

x(

[Guest paulr312]

i am very surpirsed by the amount of negative rumors being spread about what i think are two great escorts. i've been with casey twice and sean once since they've been back and they were both great experiences. i also hire them a few times before they left last year. if people would just ask sean and casey what happened they would hear the real story. that's what i did. casey explained that there were some family problems that needed to be taken care of back in houston, and it was near impossible to keep things up and running while they were gone. they didn't really plan for any emergencies, and being two young kids starting out they really had no choice but to bail on the agency for the time being. personally, i think it took a lot of guts for them to come back to chicago and try again. from my experiences these last times with them they seem to have matured a bit and all of my experiences with them were wonderful, just as my first ones were.

[Guest Kalifornia]

>>It makes no sense to rehash the details now.

>

>Yeah, why bother confusing the issue with facts? Let

>innuendo and accusations stand on their own two feet.

>

>x(

 

deej the moderators would never allow the truth to be placed on this board. so why should someone bother with it?

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest DVS]

Hi Guys,

 

I am shocked at the bad press you are giving these guys! I don't always post on the message board but I can tell you that when the guys are young they are often taken advantage of but some less than favorable clients.

 

We are often very one sided in our opinions of others but remember this is sex for hire and these guys have lives too. More often then not lies are meant to keep their lives private which we forget and do not respect. I was friends with one of their guys and yes he had many issues but overall he was a good guy.

 

We are not in contact anymore and yes he was totally messed up and couldn't even keep his stories straight anymore. These guys are glamorized by the money and when things get heavy they buckle or run or when they just can't keep reality straight.

 

I don't think Casey is like that at all, I would comment on Sean but I don't know him personally. What I do know of the guys is that they are general good guys in business. I think everyone is being too harsh on these guys and should give them a break.

 

I will still be using their services and I wish them the best.

[+ deej]

>>>It makes no sense to rehash the details now.

>>

>>Yeah, why bother confusing the issue with facts? Let

>>innuendo and accusations stand on their own two feet.

>>

>>x(

>

>deej the moderators would never allow the truth to be placed

>on this board. so why should someone bother with it?

 

Hmmm .... interesting.

 

I *am* a moderator. I didn't notice that policy change.

 

I *have* noticed your continued open hostility to everything about this site and wonder why you still come here if you hate it so. But it's a free country.

 

Wail away, dude. Complain to someone who gives a shit. I'm sure you'll find someone, somewhere.

[Guest paulr312]

my, my, my, this sean and casey comeback is bigger than i thought it would be. i knew that these guys were popular before, but i never realized how popular until i recently became a member of this site. let's just keep in mind that the fact that everyone keeps talking about them means there's something special about these two. and big squirt, while cody tyler was an exceptional escort, and a nice kid, he's a bit messed up and not the most honest person in the world. he was well aware of the fact that sean and casey were leaving, and that apartment was HIS and his alone. sean and casey tied up all loose ends before returning to houston.