Have you ever had an escort require a condom to blow you?

[Guest JON1265]

I was with a new guy at Premiere (local agency in Philly) last night...he was young, inexperienced, and very uptight. I will review him in a few days.

 

But he did something that I have NEVER had done by an escort or a regular trick. He put a condom on my dick to blow me. Now I can certainly respect someone's boundaries and I do - beleive me. But have you ever had this done to you? It was a total turn-off for me...I believe in safe sex but that is taking it just too far with me.

 

Should the agency have told me he does that? Should it be listed in his description?

 

The whole scene was awkward and I would never hire him again - and my guess is he won't last in this business...

 

Whaddya think about condoms for blowjobs?

 

Thoughts please.

[chrismac]

>But he did something that I have NEVER had done by an escort

>or a regular trick. He put a condom on my dick to blow me.

>Now I can certainly respect someone's boundaries and I do -

>beleive me. But have you ever had this done to you?

 

Oh yeah - happens to me all the time. When the guy sees all the carbunkles and nodules on my dick they always whip out the condom

:o

 

Seriously though, I avoid escorts where reviews have stated this activity. I'd prefer not to be orally serviced if that's the case.

[Guest BigSquirt]

What a coincidence--I'm certain I had the same disastrous experience recently with the escort you're talking about. Insisted on the condom for oral and was willing to do precious little otherwise, too. He's new and Premiere seems to book him very, very heavily. That won't last given his limitations. Looking forward to your review to see if we both got taken by the same guy.

 

I've only had one other escort (out of probably 20 or so I've hired) require that I wear a condom for a blow job. Stated that he did it because he had a committed boyfriend that he was devoted to. It was a total turn-off and a disaster that I thought I'd never have to suffer through again.

 

Until the Premiere guy. With him, seems to me that he insists on the condom primarily because he's totally straight (NOT at all Bisexual as advertised) and just can't bring himself to do the deed with another guy without a condom.

 

Not only did he insist on the condom for oral--but expected ME to provide it--he had none of his own! My experience was just as awkward as yours and I ended up pissed off and feeling totally hustled. Of course the agency should have warned us about this, but do you think they ever would? Of course not. Who the hell would hire anyone who insists on this? I'm all for safe® sex, but this is a deal killer for me from now on--and I'll certainly never hire this guy again, either.

[CT Dick]

Did either of you call Premier back and complain/discuss it with them?

 

Dick

[Guest Rottfan]

Can you guys let us know who it is you're talking about? Is it Adam?

[Guest JON1265]

>Did either of you call Premier back and complain/discuss it

>with them?

>

>Dick

 

I didn't...instead I went back today and hired my self a couple of cuties for my first ever double-up and it was GREAT! I will write a review on that in a day or so as well....

 

I agree with Big Squirt that this guy is str8 and not bi...I don't want to give the impression (at least from my experience) that he was a jerk or anything...he was pretty cordial (or tried to be)...but just VERY uptight and uncomfortable...

 

The thing is this was something I would have never even thought to have asked...but I do think it is something they should say when someone hires him.

[Guest BigSquirt]

>>Did either of you call Premier back and complain/discuss it

>>with them?

>>

>>Dick

>

>I didn't...instead I went back today and hired my self a

>couple of cuties for my first ever double-up and it was

>GREAT! I will write a review on that in a day or so as

>well....

 

I didn't call to complain either. I suppose it would have made me feel better to vent, but then again, what's the point? It's not like sending a steak back in a restaurant. I didn't have the time or energy to raise a stink. I expect an escort (especially from an agency) to be--well, an escort. Like JON, I never suspected a curveball like this thrown my way and just chalked it up to a bad roll of the dice and moved on.

 

And yes, Rottfan, I am talking about Adam (sounds like JON and me aren't the only ones with similar negative experiences with him) I have no deliberate intentions of ruining an escort's business and have no beef with Premiere, but JON is right--Adam is obviously just way too uptight and uncomfortable with man-to-man stuff, and potential clients should be aware of this. A few straight escorts can overcome this (and nobody gets off on those types more than me), but Adam just doesn't qualify. Put simply, he has too many hangups to do this work and has no business escorting for guys.

[Guest jrpSCORP]

There is only one guy workng for Premier who advertises himself as Bi. I think he is very hot loking. However, I decided against him based on different reasons. Nowhere is there any mention of what he does---top/bottom/versatile/very versatile (which I found out means "bottom")----kisser, etc. What did one do with him, aside from allowing him to taste latex? Is he just one of those "I'm here---adore me" types. If they (Premier) like him, they WILL be pushing him. Their BEST workers (Greg, Matt, and others) are gone, and I'm noticing some very poor replacements. And, I agree, they SHOULD have told you. However, in defense of them, I understand why they didn't--------the old cliche' about not biting the hand that feeds you. Everyone just thinks about how much the escort gets. Does one ever think of how much the agency gets????? Can you guess which is more???? BINGO!!!!!! You've got it!!!!!! HINT: It's NOT the first one.

[Guest JON1265]

>There is only one guy workng for Premier who advertises

>himself as Bi. I think he is very hot loking.

 

Oh, he is very hot looking - looks were not an issue here.

 

However, I

>decided against him based on different reasons. Nowhere is

>there any mention of what he

>does---top/bottom/versatile/very versatile (which I found

>out means "bottom")----kisser, etc. What did one do

>with him, aside from allowing him to taste latex?

 

Well I was told he was a top - and he did try. I wrote my review of him last night - should be up in a few days I would imagine. And your right as to how to read the ads - VERY versatile reads as bottom and affectionate reads as kisser.

 

Is he

>just one of those "I'm here---adore me" types. If they

>(Premier) like him, they WILL be pushing him. Their BEST

>workers (Greg, Matt, and others) are gone, and I'm noticing

>some very poor replacements.

 

Oh, there are still some golden ones around - try Neil, Troy, Aaron, Jimmy, Brent, Danny, Isaac (just saw him - review cumming up) - some truly great guys! And I have heard great things about Sebastian and Ryan - two guys I would like to try out.

 

Everyone just thinks about how much

>the escort gets. Does one ever think of how much the agency

>gets????? Can you guess which is more???? BINGO!!!!!!

>You've got it!!!!!! HINT: It's NOT the first one.

 

I am not sure how that works...I was actually told that the escort gets 100 and the agency gets 50...I was told this by a FORMER escort of Premiere...not one of the current crop...but I truly don't know and I think asking would be tacky. But I always give a nice tip to whomever I hire from there, because I know they do not pocket all of it.

[Guest BigSquirt]

I agree with JON--looks were not an issue. Adam is most definitely hot--he just can't or won't get into man sex of any kind. He's also more than a little on the cocky side (which can be a turn on for me) but other than tasting latex, he barely kissed (closed mouth), refused (and couldn't) top or bottom, ate up as much time as possible while watching the clock with a lame massage and was never really hard. I'll also post a review soon.

 

He's a very young kid with a great look and great body who is obviously out to cash in as much as possible--and Premiere naturally takes advantage of this and pushes him to the hilt. I fully realize that this is how the escort biz works with agencies. They're naturally going to hyper-promote the new hot commodity while neglecting full "disclosure." More power to both of them--but Adam's one to avoid if you're looking for any interaction and a real roll in the hay.

[Guest JH]

Damian Grey (Sydney /NYC) uses condoms for oral and he can suck my dick any day! When I was living in Sydney I also started to use flavoured condoms after 2 incidences of pharyngeal gonorrhoea (damned inconvenient). It does take a slight adaption of technique (hire Damian to discover how) but can be just as effective as "baremouthing".

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>I fully realize that this is how the escort biz

>works with agencies. They're naturally going to

>hyper-promote the new hot commodity while neglecting full

>"disclosure."

 

Sounds like a stupid business practice to me. Might make them a few bucks in the short term but I would think it would cost them big time in the future 'cause clients would get the idea that their "product" can not be relied upon.

 

Thunderbuns

[CT Dick]

> I have no deliberate intentions of

>ruining an escort's business and have no beef with Premiere,

>but JON is right--Adam is obviously just way too uptight and

>uncomfortable with man-to-man stuff, and potential clients

>should be aware of this.

 

Friend, what is the point of this site? If an escort is not worth hiring then you, as a member of this community, should share that with us. An evening and a wad of money is too much to waste on finding out for ourselves.

 

Don't think of it as ruining an escort's career, think of it as pointing out that he is in the wrong business. :7

 

Dick

[Rod Hagen]

What the fuck is the problem? He'll probably never get chlamydia, pharyngeal gonorrhoea, Hep A (or is it B from Semen?). Maybe it even reduces the risk of herpes. And if he never gets these bugs, he'll never give them either. Sounds like a professional to me.

[Guest JON1265]

>What the fuck is the problem?

 

The problem is not that he does it - he is allowed to have boundaries...but I feel it is one of those things that should be listed in his profile...

 

 

He'll probably never get

>chlamydia, pharyngeal gonorrhoea, Hep A (or is it B from

>Semen?). Maybe it even reduces the risk of herpes. And if

>he never gets these bugs, he'll never give them either.

>Sounds like a professional to me.

 

Well, I have been sucking dick for over 20 year and none of those things happened to me....not to say that they don't happen...but I as a client should know the escorts limits and boundaries going in...even you could agree with that?

 

And if it is such a "profesional" business tactic...why don't you do it?

[Guest Ant415]

This is odd... before a bareback fucking escort was dragged through the mud. Yet, when another escort makes decisions on what he will and will not do he branded as a bad escort. For him, the risk from hiv via oral sex is enough to make him use condoms.

 

Quite the same as the other guy that chooses how he will have sex.

 

It's about personal choice.

 

If you really want to be certain about not getting hiv, don't have sex.

 

I am sure all the guys for safe sex also realize somewhere along the list of men they have had, a good percentage were hiv poz.

 

If someone tells you he is negative you should not base your actions on his assurances of hiv status. Many guys lie, many don't know.

 

People claim they are negative, and they have some written result. That is a stupid proof as well, unless he has not had any sex since then

[Guest BigSquirt]

I didn't brand this kid as a bad escort solely because he insisted on condoms for oral (even though he didn't even bother to provide them). Notwithstanding the condoms-for-oral business, if misrepresenting yourself as a "bi" escort who's comfortable with man sex and an inability to generate any sexual or erotic excitement whatsoever (no kissing, topping, bottoming, cumming, body contact other than a lukewarm massage etc.) is someone's definition of "professional," I shudder to think what an unprofessional escort would be.

[Guest JON1265]

>This is odd... before a bareback fucking escort was dragged

>through the mud. Yet, when another escort makes decisions

>on what he will and will not do he branded as a bad escort.

> For him, the risk from hiv via oral sex is enough to make

>him use condoms.

 

 

For the record...I have NO PROBLEM with ANY escort creating boundaries such as this...my problem is HE SHOULD post that in his description...

 

This is the first time I have EVER been asked to do this and I have been hiring for years...

 

That was not the reason for his negative review though...

 

>

>Quite the same as the other guy that chooses how he will

>have sex.

>

>It's about personal choice.

 

I agree it is...but again...if an escort has boundaries it is up to said escort to let clients know before hiring him...I think that is worthy of letting people know...

 

>

>If you really want to be certain about not getting hiv,

>don't have sex.

 

I couldn't agree more...

 

 

>

>I am sure all the guys for safe sex also realize somewhere

>along the list of men they have had, a good percentage were

>hiv poz.

 

I have no doubt about it...

 

 

>

>If someone tells you he is negative you should not base your

>actions on his assurances of hiv status. Many guys lie,

>many don't know.

 

You are right...the only way to know for sure is to abstain for a period of time (3-6 months - depends on who you talk to) and then get tested...I did just that a year ago...I was negative thank the stars. But that was a year ago...

 

>

>People claim they are negative, and they have some written

>result. That is a stupid proof as well, unless he has not

>had any sex since then

 

 

You are right on...and I have never received any "proof" after my test...they just said "negative" and I left the building...

[Paul Revere]

This whole oral with a condom is an interesting question.

 

I respect escorts boundaries, and if they insist on, and provide a condom for oral, then I usually go with it and see what happens. I was a little disappointed and surprised the first time it happened, but if you go with it, sometimes it works out fine. If you automatically assume that a condom will mean a bad blow job, then it probably will be bad for you.

 

The last time that an escort insisted on a condom for oral, I got the best blowjob of my life. I was pleasantly surprised and had a great time, so if you let the escort do his job, and he is good, you may just surprise yourself and have a great time.

 

P.S. I think that the excellent blowjob escort is appearing at the Gaiety this week. Unfortunately, I can't make it to NYC. And of course I can't vouch for any "chemisty" thing that may go on with an escort. What works for me may not work for others.

[DaninWA]

>

>>I fully realize that this is how the escort biz

>>works with agencies. They're naturally going to

>>hyper-promote the new hot commodity while neglecting full

>>"disclosure."

>

>Sounds like a stupid business practice to me. Might make

>them a few bucks in the short term but I would think it

>would cost them big time in the future 'cause clients would

>get the idea that their "product" can not be relied upon.

>

>Thunderbuns

 

The same can be said about quite a few (non-escort) companies. Why do so many businesses continue the practice?

 

Dan

[Guest icon513]

One of the best bj's I've ever had in my life was one with a condom on -- and I didn't even realize it until it was all over! The guy hid the condom in his mouth and slipped it over my cock with his lips.

[DallasTony]

Paul Revere, Spill the Beans who is the excellent Blow Job Escort at the Gaiety this week, and how about a pic and contact, we all dont live in NYC and get to The Gaiety every week, we need Web pics and phone contacts to set up appointments. There's 8 million in NYC but 263 Million elsewhere,

 

Tony DFW

[Guest Traveler]

Like I wrote in one of the recent barebacking strings, you shouldn't assume anything the escort/agency doesn't advertize. If an escort writes "great top" and can't get hard, then I have a problem with it, especially if he doesn't offer a discount. This happened with me and Talvin Demacchio once, when he specifically offerred himself as a top and couldn't. However, if the guy doesn't mention his oral talents, and you don't mention your needs to the agency, I think it's unreasonable to assume he will do whatever you want, how you want it.

When I hire an escort, kissing is a requirement. I will need some kind of assurances before I hire an escort that he's a kisser, hopefully an enthusiastic one. The wise escort advertizes what he likes to do. I will hire those who I know have preferences compatible with mine. Oral-genital activity, for example, does little for me, so I don't care about that aspect.

It turns out that getting fucked with a condom is similar in risk than sucking without a condom with respect to HIV infection. Obviously some diseases are quite easy to transmit by sucking without a condom, and these have already been mentioned (gonorrhea, herpes, syphillis, and so on).

My suggestion is that in the future, if getting sucked without a condom is important to you, that you seek escorts who advertize such activity, and that you let your needs be known. Every escort has the right to limit his activities the way he sees fit. I wouldn't complain about an escort's refusal to kiss if he didn't promote himself as a kisser. And kissing is less risky than sucking without a condom.

[Guest BigSquirt]

However, if the guy doesn't mention his

>oral talents, and you don't mention your needs to the

>agency, I think it's unreasonable to assume he will do

>whatever you want, how you want it.

 

Fair enough. But let's be honest. Although escorts frequently advertise themselves as a top, bottom, kisser etc. and state their limitations, how many will state up front that they require condoms for oral? Precious few--I've never encountered one. We all expect and require it for anal activity and I'm savvy enought to read between the lines about most escort's limitations based on their descriptions, but condoms-for-oral as a fundamental practice is definitely an anomaly for me.

 

I hire my share of escorts and have no hesitation about asking specific questions--whether an escort kisses, bottoms, is masculine etc., but I've never (until now) even thought about asking whether an escort requires a condom for oral sex. Had I known this up front, I'd have looked elsewhere (and I'll bet the vast majority of other clients would, too, and would have felt just as ripped off by Adam as I did) From now, on, I suppose this will have to be part of the standard repertoire of questions to ask prior to an appointment.

[Rod Hagen]

>From now, on, I suppose this will have to be part

>of the standard repertoire of questions to ask prior to an

>appointment.

 

As long as you've learned something, that's what's important.