Rick Munroe, a Postscript , Escort or Hustler

[Guest Nice Guy]

Mr. Munroe and I may disagree on the fine details of our business arrangement and the details of the events which did not happen...

BUT the final line is quite simple. Mr. Munroe has my $1,200....I do not...

He has offered me $600 in the form of a refund. Keeping the remaining $600 for his valuable time and all the efforts he went to arranging our evening in NYC.... It's funny.. for $600, I could get an overnight by some less.... honorable men.

If I ever see a refund from Mr. Munroe, This SITE will be the first to hear. In all honesty, I doubt if i will ever see a dime.... and that is indeed why he will have pulled off a $1,200 HUSTLE!!

Final word.

Nice Guy

[Guest Nice Guy]

Mr. Munroe and I may disagree on the fine details of our business arrangement and the details of the events which did not happen...

BUT the final line is quite simple. Mr. Munroe has my $1,200....I do not...

He has offered me $600 in the form of a refund. Keeping the remaining $600 for his valuable time and all the efforts he went to arranging our evening in NYC.... It's funny.. for $600, I could get an overnight by some less.... honorable men.

If I ever see a refund from Mr. Munroe, This SITE will be the first to hear. In all honesty, I doubt if i will ever see a dime.... and that is indeed why he will have pulled off a $1,200 HUSTLE!!

Final word.

Nice Guy

[Guest TruthTeller]

Mr. Williams,

 

How come you promised to furnish the e-mails between you and Rick to anyone who requested them, but when I e-mailed you 4 days ago requesting that you make good on your promise by sending them to me, I got nothing but silence? Is that because you're lying about the content of the e-mails and furnishing them would expose you?

 

>BUT the final line is quite simple. Mr. Munroe has my

>$1,200....I do not...

 

Had you not acted like an extortionate thug, you would have had your $600 by now. You admit he offered to pay that to you. Rather than accepting or negotiating as an honorable person would, you tried to destroy his business and reputation - just as you threatened to do. Between the time of his which you squandered away with your neuroses, and the blackmailing conduct in which you engaged, I would say that you owe him money.

 

>If I ever see a refund from Mr. Munroe, This SITE will be

>the first to hear. In all honesty, I doubt if i will ever

>see a dime.... and that is indeed why he will have pulled

>off a $1,200 HUSTLE!!

 

To describe it as a "hustle" shows what a manipulative liar you are. He did not even want your money; a hustler would have. Your friend, GentleDude, just recently posted that he offered to send Rick money up front for an appointment, but Rick made clear he wouldn't accept it because it's not his policy.

 

He only took it because YOU insisted that he do so, and only retained it when you, due to your severe mental illnesses, kept consuming his time, making plans, cancelling, promising to make more plans, cancel those, etc. You have nothing because that's what you deserve, and that's what you are.

 

>Final word.

 

A scheming liar always wants the "final word" because he knows that discussion of his statements will expose the lies. Unsurprisingly, you declare yourself entitled to it; apparently, you're not getting it.

 

You obviously came back for more posting because you are so frustrated that your conduct has done nothing to Rick or his business, but has exposed you to be the neurotic, pathetic, self-absorbed lying pig that I'm sure everyone in your life already knows you to be. Posting again and again won't alleviate that; it will only make it worse.

[Guest TruthTeller]

Mr. Williams,

 

How come you promised to furnish the e-mails between you and Rick to anyone who requested them, but when I e-mailed you 4 days ago requesting that you make good on your promise by sending them to me, I got nothing but silence? Is that because you're lying about the content of the e-mails and furnishing them would expose you?

 

>BUT the final line is quite simple. Mr. Munroe has my

>$1,200....I do not...

 

Had you not acted like an extortionate thug, you would have had your $600 by now. You admit he offered to pay that to you. Rather than accepting or negotiating as an honorable person would, you tried to destroy his business and reputation - just as you threatened to do. Between the time of his which you squandered away with your neuroses, and the blackmailing conduct in which you engaged, I would say that you owe him money.

 

>If I ever see a refund from Mr. Munroe, This SITE will be

>the first to hear. In all honesty, I doubt if i will ever

>see a dime.... and that is indeed why he will have pulled

>off a $1,200 HUSTLE!!

 

To describe it as a "hustle" shows what a manipulative liar you are. He did not even want your money; a hustler would have. Your friend, GentleDude, just recently posted that he offered to send Rick money up front for an appointment, but Rick made clear he wouldn't accept it because it's not his policy.

 

He only took it because YOU insisted that he do so, and only retained it when you, due to your severe mental illnesses, kept consuming his time, making plans, cancelling, promising to make more plans, cancel those, etc. You have nothing because that's what you deserve, and that's what you are.

 

>Final word.

 

A scheming liar always wants the "final word" because he knows that discussion of his statements will expose the lies. Unsurprisingly, you declare yourself entitled to it; apparently, you're not getting it.

 

You obviously came back for more posting because you are so frustrated that your conduct has done nothing to Rick or his business, but has exposed you to be the neurotic, pathetic, self-absorbed lying pig that I'm sure everyone in your life already knows you to be. Posting again and again won't alleviate that; it will only make it worse.

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

TT spoken like a true smart ass! I couldn't have said it better myself. I think I'm going to write a book and title it "John's Stalkers and Freaks". Mr Williams you're lucky it wasn't me you sent money to and canceled three time. Not only would you not get a dime of that deposit back, I'd have charged you more. And for trying to blackmail me and ruin my business I would have called some buddies of mine in Palm Springs to hunt you down and KICK YOUR ASS!

[Guest WorldEscrt Sean]

TT spoken like a true smart ass! I couldn't have said it better myself. I think I'm going to write a book and title it "John's Stalkers and Freaks". Mr Williams you're lucky it wasn't me you sent money to and canceled three time. Not only would you not get a dime of that deposit back, I'd have charged you more. And for trying to blackmail me and ruin my business I would have called some buddies of mine in Palm Springs to hunt you down and KICK YOUR ASS!

[Guest BenDover]

KNOCK IT OFF. WE'RE ALL SICK OF THIS SHIT. STOP.

[Guest TruthTeller]

>KNOCK IT OFF. WE'RE ALL SICK OF THIS SHIT. STOP.

 

Don't read it then. I hate a lot of the threads that you start or participate in. I don't intervene to tell you to STOP - I just skip over what I don't want to read. Why can't you do the same thing?

 

And your screeching should really be directed at John Williams, not at Sean. Nobody was discussing this any longer. John Williams came back to spew more filth at Rick. When he does that, I'm going to answer him whether or not it pleases you. My guess is, if he were spewing it at you, you wouldn't be so dismissive.

[Traveller]

>And your screeching should really be directed at John

>Williams, not at Sean. Nobody was discussing this any

>longer. John Williams came back to spew more filth at Rick.

> When he does that, I'm going to answer him whether or not

>it pleases you. My guess is, if he were spewing it at you,

>you wouldn't be so dismissive.

 

Exactly. JW started up the engine again. T2 is responding because to do otherwise could lead a person to the conclusion that JW is correct. I don't claim to know even remotely who is right, but JW should stick to composing. The soundtrack to ET tugged so at my heart.

 

Later.

 

PS. Can't you play some tennis or golf or shuffle board and get off of this merry-go-round.

[bluenix]

>I hate a lot of the threads that you

>start or participate in. I don't intervene to tell you to

>STOP - I just skip over what I don't want to read.

 

Such a crock. You're jumping in all the time to tell people their posts are worthless (c.f. "Star Shining Brightly" in the Lounge). At least you know what to aim for.

[guyinsf]

I didn't chime in on the original thread. In fact, I didn't even read it until it had so many hits that my curiosity got the better of me.

 

I cannot believe that you are attempting to resurrect this issue from the beginning by starting a new thread.

 

Like others have stated, there is considerable disagreement about what refund, if any, you are entitled to receive. Personally I would say "none" because (a) you are the one who repeatedly cancelled offered services and ultimately failed to make a date that you did keep; and (b) you waited two years to request a refund. I don't even think that most department stores would refund a deposit that a customer gave to them two years ago when that customer behaved as you did (refused delivery when promised on more that one occasion and did not attempt to receive a refund within a reasonable time). Beyond that, your attitude and threats would make me less likely to want to be nice to you and give you any kind of refund, if I were in Rick's position. I think it's quite generous that he was willing to refund half of the deposit you paid, under the circumstances.

 

It sounds like you did not have any discussion with Rick in advance about what his cancellation and refund policy would be, if you ultimately wanted your money back instead of attempting to reschedule to see him. Just because you ASSUMED that a certain refund policy should apply doesn't mean you're right. True, a "store" posts their refund and return policies (or prints them on their receipts) so there can be no dispute about the circumstances under which a consumer can get a refund. I recently returned something to a store whose policy is to only issue store credits -- no refunds at all. The credit slip indicates that it is only good for one year and that it cannot be replaced if lost. These policies are clearly printed on the credit slip and on a sign by the cash register, but this clearly indicates that some businesses have refund policies that are not in line with what you think is proper. Of course an escort doesn't have a store or receipt on which to post any such policy. It really is the consumer's responsibility to inquire about such a policy if he has even the most remote inkling that he may not want to follow through with the deal.

 

I believe that you said you had written your "final word" on this subject in the other thread. Now, after a brief pause, you are bringing this up again. I really think that you are going after this the wrong way. Not that there is much hope of actually fulfilling your original commitment (I would hope that Rick would be unwilling to meet with you after all of this nonsense), but the reasonable way to proceed would have been to have actually made a date with Rick and then kept it. If your first move after waiting 2 years had been to remind Rick that you had paid him $1,200 two years ago, had not yet met him, and that you wanted to arrange to do so, he probably would have scheduled another time for you. Then both of you could have been satisfied. Now you have created a situation where you feel cheated and Rick is being unjustly maligned. It really didn't have to turn out like this. At the very least, hopefully you learned a lesson that you should commit to booking an escort's time until you know that you actually want to see him.

 

What's most upsetting to me personally, however, is that you have created a thread about which I agree with TruthTeller, something I never thought would happen and something I'm not entirely comfortable with, given TT's previous postings.

[duke37]

I was one of those people who were hoping for a positive outcome for this dispute. That apparently isn't meant to be.

 

Nice Guy you had your say. Unless you have some new "indignity" to describe posting this again is just piling on.

 

I still haven't heard anything yet to make me change my mind how I do business with Mr. Munroe or any of the other well reviewed escorts on this site. Im sorry if you weren't such a flake this would have been over long ago.

[Guest WetDream]

RE: It's deja vu all over again

 

Let sleeping dogs lie is the phrase that leaps to mind, Nice Guy.

[Guest Hungman9]

>In my

>mind, one of the key issues in this dispute was the fact

>that RM had weeks' notice each time.

 

I never read anywhere where Rick said this. Rick never said how much notice he was given. You said this same thing many times in the other thread but it isn't based on anything other than John Williams' post. You're biased.

 

>That being said, I agree with what people have been

>posting lately, namely that it is disingenuous

>for NG to again bring up a discussion which has been hashed

>to death. NG has had his say.

 

And so have you, repeating yourself numerous times in that thread and now again. You've had your say, too. You're just as bad.

[BewareofNick]

You already had your opportunity to see half your money back. Instead, you acted like a horse's ass and you blew it. Rick owes you NOTHING! In fact, he ought to send you a bill for the damage you have tried to do to his reputation.

[MiamiLooker]

I see your sense of humor in your choice of a user name.

[Guest neverbeenhad]

I have it! I've been agonizing over how I could help resolve this.

Since obviously the well is poisoned between these two guys and therefore sex is out of the question between them, I would be willing to act as a surrogate for NG, fly out to see Rick, with full instructions from NG as to what he would have wanted to do if he had been able to get together with Rick in the past two years. I then would write a ten to twelve page report on the experience, and e-mail it to NG with a digital photo of me with Rick in flagrante, to show I had indeed performed my duties. This would ensure that NG got what he paid for, albeit via internet, and Rick would have this all behind him.

Deal?

Anyone that wants to contribute to my airfare to perform this public service is welcome to contact the site

[Guest Dirktex]

After lurking for quite a while, I am motivated to write...

 

As an attorney, I am often called upon to prepare for meetings that subsequently get cancelled. I still bill my clients for my preparation time, and if they cancel repeatedly, I will inform them that, to the degree that I have cancelled or delayed other work, they may be responsible for the time we would have spent in the meeting. I have often billed against a retainer in this context.

 

Similarly, hotels charge for a night even if you cancel sometimes, because of their lost opportunity costs. Theatres don't reimburse if you miss a show for which you have purchased tickets for the same reason.

 

If we who are clients are going to view escorts as the professionals that many of them are, we must expect that our financial dealings with them must also be professional. Remember, they are serious when they say that $ is for time, not sex. If not, the contract would be per se unenforceable.

 

Under these standards Rick would be entitled to bill against all or some of the "retainer" he recieved from Nice Guy.

 

I do not doubt that Nice Guy feels wronged, but I cannot agree that his expectations are/were reasonable under the circumstances.

 

D.

[+ Unicorn]

>Similarly, hotels charge for a night even if you cancel

>sometimes, because of their lost opportunity costs. Theatres

>don't reimburse if you miss a show for which you have

>purchased tickets for the same reason.

>

 

I'm afraid I have to take issue with your analogies. With few exceptions, hotels will not charge you if you cancel within 24 hours of the anticipated check-in date. More often than not, you can cancel by 4 PM on the day of arrival without penalty. This is because most hotels get enough last-minute business (as do escorts) to fill any vacancies. As for theater tickets, they are always very careful to state the no-refund policies upfront. Although theaters are unusual in the business world in their no-refund policies (other than As-Is used car dealers), I suspect they get away with it as they will typically have a monopoly on that particular show in any given town.

 

Nevertheless, if you have enough leeway, you can usually sell your ticket if you have enough notice. Sometimes you can even sell your tickets for more than you paid. In my mind, one of the key issues in this dispute was the fact that RM had weeks' notice each time. I therefore cannot believe he actually lost business. He should have been compensated for his time spent, but from both accounts, it wasn't a whole lot.

 

That being said, I agree with what people have been posting lately, namely that it is disingenuous for NG to again bring up a discussion which has been hashed to death. NG has had his say. People have had ample opportunity to make up their minds as to how much of a refund, if any, he would have been entitled to. Bringing this up at this time only evinces the bad judgment he showed in getting into this mess in the first place.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Unicorn,

 

I agree with your fact analysis... I think it correct and to the point. As for the last paragraph, I take no position on either NG or Rick posting what they want -- its a free and open board.

[+ Unicorn]

>And so have you, repeating yourself numerous times in that

>thread and now again. You've had your say, too. You're

>just as bad.

 

I didn't repeat a thing. I responded to what I felt were bad analogies to the situation. Just because I haven't changed my mind doesn't mean I'm repeating myself.

[Guest Nice Guy]

TruthTeller

I have not been back to the site since i placed my original post and one day later..... I then decided to make one last attemmpt... I did NOT get your email.... SO pleae email me again and i will provide the information you requested....I will ONLYsend it toyou..because I, TOO have had it with this site and some very troubled people... Who on one hand don't trust an Escort as far as they can throw him and on the other somehow find it necessary to find a man of honor..... So please email me again and i will respond..

Best Regards, NG

[Traveller]

>TruthTeller

>I have not been back to the site since i placed my original

>post and one day later..... I then decided to make one last

>attemmpt... I did NOT get your email.... SO pleae email me

>again and i will provide the information you requested....I

>will ONLYsend it toyou..because I, TOO have had it with this

>site and some very troubled people... Who on one hand don't

>trust an Escort as far as they can throw him and on the

>other somehow find it necessary to find a man of honor.....

>So please email me again and i will respond..

>Best Regards, NG

 

You take the big long stick and hold the side without the funny looking half circle. That side you put against the ground and push the thingamabobs that look kinda like discs. Push hard and go for the really high numbers. Check your pace maker first.

 

Later.

 

PS. Have fun in your really, really big house in Palm Springs. Some of us with money hike to 18,000 feet in the Andes, white water raft in Patagonia and don't fuck with people like this. Have a nice day.

[Guest Hungman9]

>Just because I haven't

>changed my mind doesn't mean I'm repeating myself.

 

You've typed the phrase "Rick had weeks' notice each time" ad infinitum in almost every one of your posts on these 2 threads. Go back to the original thread & count them. And read Rick's post #46 again. He never mentions how much notice he was given.

[Guest tmbg]

I'll ask the same question others have, why start a new thread on this topic? I believe you have received every person's opinion and in my case you haven't changed it. My conviction to Rick is even stronger as you clearly have a deeper agenda that isn't being shared with us.

 

Cheers! Ritchie