paying an escort in advance

[Bilbo]

One thing that I often do with my clients who are just coming out of the closet, have never had a relationship or dated very much, is that after six months or so I let them know that I do really hope that they keep coming to me but that I think that it is time for them to experiment with a little variety. ("If you love something, let it go, etc.") I am happiest when the client both retains an ongoing relationship with me and starts trying other escorts that we can talk about his reactions to. My point being that it is high time for you to, yes, "start researching". But, if I were you, I would try this time to wind up seeing two regulars and the occaisional variety stud. True, you won't see any one of them as often, but I think that you are ready for this next step on your road.

[Bilbo]

That said, I myself am about to try to find five clients who will each pay me in advance per month for $200 worth of services with a fairly firm commitment to keep doing so. I figure that that way I can rent an apartment seperate from my own living quarters and make it into one fine dungeon where I could give my leather clients more of what they're really looking for than I can in my living room. (I had a multipurpose room that converted to a dungeon for many years but last Christmass time a fire in a neighbor's apartment made me have to move to smaller quarters.)

[Bilbo]

That said, I myself am about to try to find five clients who will each pay me in advance per month for $200 worth of services with a fairly firm commitment to keep doing so. I figure that that way I can rent an apartment seperate from my own living quarters and make it into one fine dungeon where I could give my leather clients more of what they're really looking for than I can in my living room. (I had a multipurpose room that converted to a dungeon for many years but last Christmass time a fire in a neighbor's apartment made me have to move to smaller quarters.)

[Donnie]

>the escort in

>question is a close friend of Nice Guy's.

 

>I should add that this escort has since retired from the

>business.

 

So you're talking about Brett Silvers? I thought he was supposed to be someone of such high caliber that other escorts should all be compared to him. I guess I was wrong. If this story is correct, it sounds like he is/was a true hustler.

[Donnie]

>the escort in

>question is a close friend of Nice Guy's.

 

>I should add that this escort has since retired from the

>business.

 

So you're talking about Brett Silvers? I thought he was supposed to be someone of such high caliber that other escorts should all be compared to him. I guess I was wrong. If this story is correct, it sounds like he is/was a true hustler.

[phage]

>It would have never crossed my mind, as time passed with our business relationship,

>that trust and friendship were not there on both our parts.

 

It’s a mistake that many softhearted clients make – especially those just coming out who don’t have a frame of reference. You’ve got to remember that this is almost ALWAYS business for these guys, and unless you are seeing them off the clock…they are not your friends. They may be very friendly escorts, but they are NOT your friends. Do you pay ANYONE else in your life to be part of it? I’m glad the money doesn’t hurt so you can write this off as a lesson learned.

[phage]

>It would have never crossed my mind, as time passed with our business relationship,

>that trust and friendship were not there on both our parts.

 

It’s a mistake that many softhearted clients make – especially those just coming out who don’t have a frame of reference. You’ve got to remember that this is almost ALWAYS business for these guys, and unless you are seeing them off the clock…they are not your friends. They may be very friendly escorts, but they are NOT your friends. Do you pay ANYONE else in your life to be part of it? I’m glad the money doesn’t hurt so you can write this off as a lesson learned.

[Guest alanm]

I agree. Except in very rare occasions, escorts are not friends.

This is a subject that has been discussed endlessly on this site, although not lately. I understand your confusion. For someone new to client-escort relationships, the escort behaves in many ways that resemble friendship. After a year, I guess you thought he really was your friend. My advice is to see one escort only or as many as you want, BUT NEVER FORGET : IT IS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP ONLY.

[Guest alanm]

I agree. Except in very rare occasions, escorts are not friends.

This is a subject that has been discussed endlessly on this site, although not lately. I understand your confusion. For someone new to client-escort relationships, the escort behaves in many ways that resemble friendship. After a year, I guess you thought he really was your friend. My advice is to see one escort only or as many as you want, BUT NEVER FORGET : IT IS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP ONLY.

[Losgatan]

>BUT NEVER

>FORGET : IT IS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP ONLY.

 

True, but depending on the people involved, there can be trust between the parties in a business relationship. In fact, it's often easier and cleaner than dealing with a friend.

 

For me, trust is a prerequisite to a satisfactory experience with an escort. Both client and escort must trust each other to honor the business arrangement, to respect each other's limits, to deliver what's promised and expected.

 

Would I pay for a year of appointments in advance? Hell no. Would I ever schedule a repeat session with an escort I couldn't trust? Not on your life. It's just like any other business relationship.

[Losgatan]

>BUT NEVER

>FORGET : IT IS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP ONLY.

 

True, but depending on the people involved, there can be trust between the parties in a business relationship. In fact, it's often easier and cleaner than dealing with a friend.

 

For me, trust is a prerequisite to a satisfactory experience with an escort. Both client and escort must trust each other to honor the business arrangement, to respect each other's limits, to deliver what's promised and expected.

 

Would I pay for a year of appointments in advance? Hell no. Would I ever schedule a repeat session with an escort I couldn't trust? Not on your life. It's just like any other business relationship.

[Boston Guy]

I'm sorry you lost your money. I'm even sorrier that it was through this kind of experience that you discovered that most escort/client relationships are not true friendships.

 

Lending money to anyone will put a strain on the relationship, no matter what kind of relationship it is. Lending money to an escort -- which is what an advance payment really is -- can seem like a big favor to the guy. But it also builds an immediately obligation on the part of the escort and some escorts might have trouble following through.

 

Some clients like to advance money to clients in order to build a kind of "hold" over the escort. I think they should try to stand a bit taller and work on their own self-respect; we shouldn't need to try to control other people. Escorts who find themselves involved with such clients would be well-advised to steer clear of them.

 

This doesn't seem to have been the case with you, however, and you simply learned an age-old lesson about being a lender. It's sad when that lesson comes at the hands of someone we are fond of.

 

But please don't use this example to think badly of all escorts or to mistrust the next one you meet: each guy merits his own good beginning. :-)

 

BG

[Boston Guy]

I'm sorry you lost your money. I'm even sorrier that it was through this kind of experience that you discovered that most escort/client relationships are not true friendships.

 

Lending money to anyone will put a strain on the relationship, no matter what kind of relationship it is. Lending money to an escort -- which is what an advance payment really is -- can seem like a big favor to the guy. But it also builds an immediately obligation on the part of the escort and some escorts might have trouble following through.

 

Some clients like to advance money to clients in order to build a kind of "hold" over the escort. I think they should try to stand a bit taller and work on their own self-respect; we shouldn't need to try to control other people. Escorts who find themselves involved with such clients would be well-advised to steer clear of them.

 

This doesn't seem to have been the case with you, however, and you simply learned an age-old lesson about being a lender. It's sad when that lesson comes at the hands of someone we are fond of.

 

But please don't use this example to think badly of all escorts or to mistrust the next one you meet: each guy merits his own good beginning. :-)

 

BG

[sdg]

I am a firm believer that you don't loan money, co-sign, etc. for anyone unless you are totally willing and able to walk away from the situation without any regret or loss. Which is usually pretty impossible to do but sometimes worth it for a good friendship or relationship. In your case you took the gamble and it didn't work out. I suggest you walk away, forget it, move on. There are tons of good escorts, guys you can trust (within realistic expectations) and be happy with. Consider yourself lucky that now that you are not so attached to this "ONE" escort you can enjoy the others.

 

sdg

[sdg]

I am a firm believer that you don't loan money, co-sign, etc. for anyone unless you are totally willing and able to walk away from the situation without any regret or loss. Which is usually pretty impossible to do but sometimes worth it for a good friendship or relationship. In your case you took the gamble and it didn't work out. I suggest you walk away, forget it, move on. There are tons of good escorts, guys you can trust (within realistic expectations) and be happy with. Consider yourself lucky that now that you are not so attached to this "ONE" escort you can enjoy the others.

 

sdg

[Guest alanm]

I've been seeing the same escort for a long time and know a lot about

the escort world from his experiences. Boston Guy is exactly right about clients who pay in advance. Unusally expensive gifts, pricey health club memberships etc. are also a sign that the client has an agenda. I can predict from my "friend's" reaction that the relationship with the new client isn't going to last much longer.

[Guest alanm]

I've been seeing the same escort for a long time and know a lot about

the escort world from his experiences. Boston Guy is exactly right about clients who pay in advance. Unusally expensive gifts, pricey health club memberships etc. are also a sign that the client has an agenda. I can predict from my "friend's" reaction that the relationship with the new client isn't going to last much longer.

[Guest IM_Moore]

this is such a stupid thread and a subject matter that has been neaten to death. i have read your post and cannot understand why u even started it. if u want to pay an escort in advance do it, if not then don't. are u that stupid

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[Guest IM_Moore]

this is such a stupid thread and a subject matter that has been neaten to death. i have read your post and cannot understand why u even started it. if u want to pay an escort in advance do it, if not then don't. are u that stupid

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[Guest Piltdown Man]

>I agree. Except in very rare occasions, escorts are not friends.<

 

It's true. You can't trust them as far as you can drag them by the hair.

[Guest Piltdown Man]

>I agree. Except in very rare occasions, escorts are not friends.<

 

It's true. You can't trust them as far as you can drag them by the hair.

[Guest Piltdown Man]

>Then add to that my lack of concern for reading every nuance or trying to interpret the indirect meaning of something someone says.<

 

There in lies the potential for future miscommunications. I think it's important to understand what people mean before taking offense. Concern is good. Don't sell it short.

 

>I am sorry that I misread you, do apologize for it and I do thank you for taking the time to enlighten the ignorant, always a noble deed.<

 

Ah, sarcasm, the friend of all.

 

>...and do you think lawerence welk was gay?<

 

Maybe bi, but he spawned way too many offspring to be a total cocksucker.

 

Happy Holidays to everyone.

[Guest Piltdown Man]

>Then add to that my lack of concern for reading every nuance or trying to interpret the indirect meaning of something someone says.<

 

There in lies the potential for future miscommunications. I think it's important to understand what people mean before taking offense. Concern is good. Don't sell it short.

 

>I am sorry that I misread you, do apologize for it and I do thank you for taking the time to enlighten the ignorant, always a noble deed.<

 

Ah, sarcasm, the friend of all.

 

>...and do you think lawerence welk was gay?<

 

Maybe bi, but he spawned way too many offspring to be a total cocksucker.

 

Happy Holidays to everyone.

[sdg]

Kinda of a bitter statement!

 

I'm a firm believer in you get what you project.

 

sdg

[sdg]

Kinda of a bitter statement!

 

I'm a firm believer in you get what you project.

 

sdg