HOW ESCORTS AND CLIENTS TREAT EACHOTHER....

[Guest rippedgymrat]

Its always a pleasant experience when both escort and client can be respectful to one another. Here is an instance when things can go horribly wrong, and hopefully a lesson can be learned by the the client and escort.

I had a client last night, visiting my city from out of town. Our appointment was at 7. I showered, brushed my teeth, and drove to the hotel at 6:30. I parked, and went up to his room. As I stepped off the elevator, I looked at my watch. It was 6:50....and I decided that it was not inappropriate to show up. I knocked, he came to the door in boxers. I said "Hello, how are you?" As I walked in, he barked, "youre early." I understand that it may have inconvenienced him, so I said, " Im sorry about being 10 minutes early, would you like me to come back in ten minutes?" He said " youre a hell of a lot earlier than 10 minutes." I showed him my watch. He said that he was gonna take a shower, and he wanted me to join him. I said that I had showered just 20 minutes prior, and that he was more than welcome to wash, as I was fine to just sit on the couch and read a magazine. He began to mutter something about me having to call the agency I work for,( something I never do). I had on a backward baseball hat. He told me I needed to take that off, because I looked like one of his daughters friends. He then reached over and touched my face, commenting on my 5 oclock shadow. He then asked if I workout......(um....good god......only 6 days a week). He began pacing, going on about how he expected an escort to give him a long slow fuck, because he didnt want the pressure of having to be a top, and how he expected them to cum, and he also expected them to have a good time. At that, I got up and said " this will not work," and left.

I do not accept any responsibilty in this call going bad. Im a very good looking guy. I dress neat, casual, and masculine. My grooming is pristine, and I have had many clients who were petrified in the first few minutes of a call....and I have always been able to make them feel comfortable. That is my responsiblity as a paid escort.

It IS NOT my responsiblity to be groped, barked at, and judged all within the first 5 minutes of walking in the door. It is a PRIVELAGE that we are able to spend time with eachother, and no amount of cash guarantees that my penis will be up your ass. I want to say to everyone out there......cash exchanging hands means that you have an hour of my time. You may have hopes of what can happen. You may have ideas of what can happen. But its also YOUR RESPONSABILITY as a client to make the escort feel comfortable to some degree. That can be anything from a smile, a handshake, a moment of pleasant conversation. Treat them like a human being in other words. Thats not a lot to ask.

[Guest FLsweetguy]

I would think situations such as that could be avoided with enough up front communication. I am frankly surprised when escorts set up an appointment without ever learning anything about the client or what he expects.

[trilingual]

I guess I'm missing something here. In escorting, the customer may not always be right, but he should be unless he's seriously out of line. This particular encounter might have gone better, but the complaining escort doesn't mention that the client did anything particularly terrible. The client was obviously a little jittery about the early arrival, but a good escort should be able to put the client at ease. After that, according to the escort:

 

"He said that he was gonna take a shower, and he wanted me to join him. I said that I had showered just 20 minutes prior, and that he was more than welcome to wash, as I was fine to just sit on the couch and read a magazine." If showering together is what the client would like to do, that seems to me well within the range of what an escort should be willing to accommodate. This escort needs to pick up better on what his clients are looking for.

 

"He began to mutter something about me having to call the agency I work for,( something I never do)." Again, if the client wishes to speak to the agency because something doesn't seem to be going well, I think it's incumbent on the escort to do as he's asked. He's there providing a service not only on behalf of himself, but on behalf of the agency he works for or which represents him.

 

"I had on a backward baseball hat. He told me I needed to take that off, because I looked like one of his daughters friends." Different looks work differently for different folks. In this case our escort's look apparently wasn't working for his client. Removing the cap and asking "Is this better?" would have been a better response.

 

"He then reached over and touched my face, commenting on my 5 oclock shadow. " Did the client comment favorably or unfavorably? Touching or caressing the face of an escort isn't exactly "groping," and this is the only physical contact mentioned in the escort's complaint. "

 

"He then asked if I workout......(um....good god......only 6 days a week)." Obviously, the client was trying to make conversation when he was feeling awkward.

 

"He began pacing, going on about how he expected an escort to give him a long slow fuck, because he didnt want the pressure of having to be a top, and how he expected them to cum, and he also expected them to have a good time." The pacing was probably nerves. The rest seems perfectly appropriate for a client to discuss with an escort. I hardly think a client's telling an escort that he expected them to have a good time is a terrible thing!

 

The escort's response to all this was to walk out. My reaction to this tacky little scene and aria is that this escort isn't ready for prime time yet. There definitely seems to be room for improvement in the client relations and customer service departments. By the way, I am NOT the client in question. If I had been, though, I would have considered the escort to be at best inexperienced and at worst way too into himself and his ownneeds, instead of his client's. Either way, such treatment of clients isn't the path to success. This escort might want to read the reviews of escorts like Michael Brandon or Braeden Casey or the many other well-reviewed escorts on this site to pick up some tips on what makes these guys worth the money, the experience, and the repeat business.

[Losgatan]

I side with "Ripped" on this one. A client who makes no effort to put the escort at ease is doomed to unsatisfactory encounters -- even if the escort decides to go through with the session.

[Guest 7Zach]

Clearly, the client wasn't very polite, though he probably was just pissed that he wasn't ready and/or caught off guard. The boxers bit, that always surprises me that people are offended when someone wears boxers to lounge in. I guess since I wear them a lot, others do too. What is it that makes escorts believe that someone in boxers is not showing respect? And for the record, I wear shorts over my boxers when getting ready to receive guests...

[Guest cp8036]

I would side with ripped as well. The guy sounds like an ass.

 

With all the talk about how angry clients are with late arrivals, you would think being 10 mins early is a good thing.

 

Perhaps some of the things the client said were not so bad, but the way it was said (per ripped's description) was off base.

 

I am nervous as well when first meeting, and most escorts can detect this and make some effort to be calming. Nervous or not, I would not insulting.

 

I am glad you walked out and kept your dignity.

[+ Charlie]

I reserve the right to terminate an encounter if I am really uncomfortable with an escort's behavior. I think he has the same right, as long as he doesn't expect to be paid nevertheless. It may be a business transaction, but an escort is not simply a piece of meat to be manipulated.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

trilingual,

 

You make about the best case for the defense that could be made IMHO and it is not inadequate. However, based on rippedgymrat's representation I have to say that the client wreaked poor attitude from the start. (However, I believe rippedgymrat should have called to ask if arriving 10 minutes early would be ok -- maybe that would have circumvented the whole episode, maybe not.)

 

There was an ongoing sequence of attitude issues as I see it. Some my have overlooked it but I don't think I would have. I do not see clients and escorts, I see people who happen to be in the client or escort role. So I analzye this as the interaction between two people who just met for the first time for a common purpose though not necessaily from a common perspective. In this context I find the 'clients' attitude wanting. Maybe due to being neverous maybe not -- nevertheless, it struck me as inappropriate at best and insulting at worst and certainly far from gracious.

 

I can't blame anyone for not wanting to spend an intimate hour or longer with someone under those circumstances -- particularly in a physcially demanding role that requries having one's head into it.

 

Guess this points out my shortcoming as escort material. Unfortunately, I have never been good at taking bull shit from people -- one reason I have avoided sales for a living. I don't expect anymore from people than I can give.

[BgMstr4u]

It sounds to me as though the client was looking for a reason not to continue. This client was obviously upset, depressed or angry about something, and I'll bet it wasn't the escort who caused it. Probably if the bell boy had appeared with room service he would have chewed his head off too. I have found that when this sort of self-generated anxiety or inappropriate emotion is present, a kind word sometimes brings the person back into the frame and with apologies etc. often the encounter is even better than it might otherwise have been, because of an attempt to make it up. But if it goes on, there is no point in continuing. It will just get worse.

 

I think the escort did about the right thing. He made several attempts to cool the guy down, and the client just got angrier. Who knows why. Maybe he was off his meds, or needed them. At any rate, I think he was right to leave. It could have got much worse had he stayed. It might even have become dangerous.

 

One other possibility: this guy may get his sexual jollies by abusing people. If so, there is a fairly well developed sexual specialty which employs abuse. He might check this out and find an escort who enjoys that scene. But without warning to pile it on some poor working lad just walking in the door -- NOT.

[Guest rippedgymrat]

Ready for the big time? I escorted for 2 years.....and have well over 30 positive reviews. I have traveled the world in this profession, and invested my finances.

I simply stated what happened. I FULLY realize that there are 2 sides to everything. The client may have a totally different take. What I am saying is that I walked into that room in a great mood. I had every good intention. I KNOW where I was at mentally. I was fully prepared to have a great time. Like I stated in my post, I am fully capable to take a situation where the client is nervous as hell and make them feel better. In fact, I excel at that. I have been with men who can barely form a sentance, and by the end, we are sharing storys about our childhood, or mutual interests, our travels. This man came at me with such ugly negativity.....every nuance, every word. Trilingual thinks that the client was just making conversation? How about..."how are you?". How about "Its nice to meet you." Barking orders within 60 seconds of meeting, doesnt lend itself to a hot, friendly session. Someone being caught off guard, I can handle. Someone being nervous, I can handle. Someone being a cocky, abusive, disrespectful bastard, I WILL NOT HANDLE. So, if having self respect and removing myself from the situation is tacky.....if trying to put this on here for people to learn from sounds like me throwing a little tantrum....then I feel sad for the escort who is on the receiving end of Trilingual's phone call.

[trilingual]

There are undoubtedly two sides to every story, and I'm sure that's the case here. I agree that escorts and clients should treat each other respectfully and graciously (unless, of course, they've agreed to something else!). Still, there is also a client/customer relationship involved, and I think the customer is always right unless he's being genuinely unreasonable, is drunk/dirty/drugged, etc. None of that was described in this scenario. This just sounds to me like a client who was very nervous, maybe without much experience with escorts, and a bit unnerved at the early arrival (although that certainly isn't a sin; it's not like rippedguy got there half-an-hour early, or more).

 

Compared to some of the horror stories escorts have told on the site (which I'm sure are true) this seems like nothing. In this encounter, it's very possible the chemistry just wasn't right, and there's nothing wrong with that, but when the client asked to speak to the agency when things didn't seem to be going well and the escort refused that sent a red flag up for me. And, as I said earlier, nothing so far has convinced me that this escort isn't a bit too caught up in his own needs and his own fabulousness, instead of focusing on making his clients feel fabulous, which is what the very best escorts succeed in doing.

[Guest jeffOH]

Hey Ripped,

 

After 10 years in this business, I've seen pretty much everything. I

realized a long time ago that most of the time, IT'S NOT ME! I am the one who has made a good living for the past decade adapting myself to

all types of men and scenes. It sounds to me like this client wasn't

treating you as a human being, but as an object. The main reason I won't see a client again is because of their attitude, not because of how they look.

 

Yeah, it sucks, but it is a part of this business. Just don't take it personally. When something like that happens, just take the time to reread all those positive reviews you have.:-)

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest WetDream]

"when the client asked to speak to the agency when things didn't seem to be going well and the escort refused that sent a red flag up for me."

 

Tri: I think you may have misread this. In the original post client said something about the escort having to call the agency (to check in and start the clock rolling before the client was ready? who knows?). Since the escort said he doesn't do that, this is not necessarily a reason for the red flag.

 

That said, the 'scort did seem to want to get out of there pretty quickly. Five minutes isn't really a long time...unless the vibes were really bad. If that was the case, it can seem to be an eternity. Also, he didn't ask for any money.

[Guest oralbtm4top]

As I see it, everyone has the right to decide who to be intimate with. I've hired several escorts and try to make it clear what I'm looking for upfront. I don't blame Ripped for his exit. Intimacy includes mutual respect.

[Guest 7Zach]

Ripped, you offer an extremely personal service; he wasn't polite, he wasn't kind, you had the feel that he wasn't someone you wanted to do business with, so just leave. A lot of people believe that you're to make the most of a bad situation, but I always felt that either side can take a pass if they feel strongly about it. I do think he was nervous, caught off-guard, but that doesn't excuse the basics of friendliness. Manners are nothing more than a way to show basic courtesy in making people comfortable. So, get over it...it is always your choice in following through or not, just as it is his. I know you do this for income, but clearly you felt that the money wasn't worth it. Your call.

[Guest rippedgymrat]

<sigh>....I cannot feel anger when reading these posts from Trilingual...just pity. My sincere hopes that he finds some understanding. And thank you to all the clients AND escorts who see past the exchange of $, and recognize the humanity in eachother. Happy holidays guys.....;-)

[+ Lucky]

Maybe rippedrat should have tried harder to see the humanity in this client who he is trashing. Maybe by letting the client in on the existence of this post so he can give his own view...

[Guest chaz49wm]

Well the key to the whole experience is what type of commucations that you have with your escort. I think I have had two of the best in Las Vegas and we spent lots of time on email and phone to plan the whole thing and also to get to know them. LIkes and Dislikes. Stef and Vegas Boy Dave go out of there way to ensure that you are having a good time and that there are no surprises. So SOunds like you should spend some time getting to know them and appreciating them for who they are. "Money talks and Bull shit walks my Friend" WE have to be careful to not think because we are the client we can call all these unreasonable requests. I wouldn't dream of it. Chuck

[mmk]

Just out of curiousity Ripped, where are you posted on this site or do you have a website?

[sdg]

Hey ripped seems to me that you put this guy on the defensive and maybe could have moved him over to your side had you maybe took the shower with him, or tried to understand why he thought 10 minutes was "much early" then you had booked. Maybe in his head he though you were coming at 8pm, you will never know cause you didn't ask just showed him your watch which might have confused and annoyed him more. Thing about calling the agency is also confusing did you ask him why he though you should call them, again did you ask him anything concerning why he was acting as he was or did you just respond accordingly. Belive me I have the upmost respect for escorts, think most do a damn good job and agee both sides have the right to terminate the session within the first 5 minutes with no questions asked but that not how it works most times. Anyway you of course were within your rights to do just what you did but not sure if what you did reflects totally bad on the client.

 

sdg

[trilingual]

Well, I sure seem to be in the minority on this thread! :-) I don't know rippedgymrat myself, so I can't speak about his services from personal experience. If he's been successful and has lots of positive reviews, good for him. I've seen nothing in this exchange of posts, though, that demonstrates to me that this was any more than a case of nerves/insecurity on the part of the client and/or bad chemistry between the two of them. It still isn't clear to me that the client was being awful, except for supposedly "barking" at ripped that he was early. Inviting him to take a shower together, stroking his face and asking him whether he worked out all sound to me like ways the client was trying to be ingratiating. Evidently it didn't work out, but none of this really justifies "trashing" the client on this board. I still don't see anything in ripped's posts explaining what he tried to do to salvage the situation, except for his initial apology for being early and offering to come back in ten minutes.

 

In any case, it's just as well ripped declined to go ahead, because given his feelings towards the client, it wasn't likely to have been a great encounter.

 

As for my own escort experiences, nobody's ever complained to my knowledge. As far as I can tell, my partners almost always have enjoyed themselves. (Some parts of this are hard to fake!) Also, I ALWAYS treat people courteously and respectfully, whether they're escorts or anyone else. In fact, on occasion in South America I've been surprised -- and disheartened, in a way -- when local guys tell me how much they appreciated my treating them respectfully, because many foreigners don't, and neither do a lot of South Americans (it's a class thing). Fortunately, I was brought up differently, and I guess that 55 years later it's stuck! So, please, don't cry for me, anyone! I've had wonderful experiences over the years, and am still friends with some of the more memorable guys I've met! :-)

[Guest sdmuscl4hire]

As I leave these wonderful halls of fame, I again have to state one more time for the record, not that it will do any good.

 

IT WORKS BOTH FUCKING WAYS>

 

Show me respect, even a smidgen, and i will make you the happiest man alive. Show me the attitude expressed by most here on this site and I will have kicked your ass out the back door so fast you wont know what hit you.

 

Parting thoughts and words from an ex hooker, hasta boys

[Guest Jason Reardone]

this escort isn't ready for prime time yet. <<

 

Well I will admit the escort could have conceded a bit more to the wishes of the client or at least not have been surprised by the request if he had not first spoken to the client. I NEVER see a client before first talking by phone AND corresponding via email. I will not put myself in a situation with someone that I cannot first judge their intent both in spoken AND written word, THIS IS IMPERATIVE.

 

With that said....

 

I have, after all my "screening" process, experienced just such a client. Often times they, like many women after you put a ring on their finger, turn into a demon from hell at the drop of a hat. The source of such animosity is usually a result of anxiety and the apparent inability to completely control their environment.

 

THE KEY LIES in how you (the escort) can counter that response and MAKE the client feel comfortable, wanted and sexually attractive. The ability to do this separates the escorts from the hustlers.

 

Often times I will offer (don't laugh) a 'hug' just to break the ice. IT WORKS 99% of the time, sounds stupid but if the dialogue is heading south then turning things over with a manly hug and a seat together on the bed almost always turns the tide.

 

Once I received an email from a client, OK repeated psycho email from a client. I admittedly was not forthcoming to him about my hesitations about meeting him. Instead I avoided him and patronized him during our phone calls. Red flags went off in my head everywhere that this guy was bad news. One Sunday evening while off duty I received a phone call from this guy. He told me that he had read my articles and my reviews and could wait no longer to meet me. He had driven 3 hours unannounced to Los Angeles and was at a restaurant waiting for me to show up. He begged me to meet him.

 

His first words to me after that were "You're Late!". Now tell me how is that I'm late to an appointment that we never had? I tried every trick in the Jason Reardone Making a Client Relax Book , including a drive around the block in my car to take the edge off. This guy was completely different than he was on the phone with me. Although I had red flags when talking with him, he never indicated that he was the ass-wipe he turned out to be. After a few comments while laying naked underneath him I jumped out of bed, dressed and left. He tried to restrain me and the usual, imaginable comments were said. Till the end I tried to keep my composure and did so while refusing his gesture to pay. My point....he was nervous. His way of dealing with the anxiety was to be domineering, insulting, egotistical and an overall "shit-ass".

 

You have to expect these types of responses in some people and although it's not fair it was his way of dealing with anxiety. When talking about Hustlers and Escorts, pinache and tact are the differentiating characterstics between them. I'm taking neither side on this issue, you would have to have been there to properly judge BUT here is some thoughts.... <jr>

[OceanTraveller]

I think that Ripped tried to show a good attitude , but was faced with a testy client and the situation went downhill no matter what was said or done. When I hire I always hire for at least an overnight . I try to do whatever I can to make the escort feel comfortable and it helps me also to get over any nervousness. My most recent encounter was for a weekend . I cooked a nice slow cooked meal to be ready for him when we got home. I had the house immaculate and decorated for Christmas. I served the meal with my best place settings and after the meal I took 3 gifts from under the tree and gave them to him to wish him a Merry Christmas. These were nice , but in-expensive. I had tried to relate them to our prior conversations. The time that we spent together was very relaxed and the weekend was stellar !!!!Being decent , considerate , and kind on both parts is the only way to go ... it has its rewards all the way around. In my case I made a new friend . :-)

[Guest alanm]

I am mostly with Ropped on this also. He was there and, while each individual action by the client seem not all that bad, in total the atmosphere in the room told Ripped it was time to leave.

 

However, I thought initially that the postings was from a relatively new escort, not someone who has been escorting for 2 years. Was this the worst experience that Ripped has had in 2 years? If so, he has

been lucky. Since Ripped works for an agency, he probably didn't talk to the client beforehand. Therefore, waiting outside until the appointment was supposed to start does make sense. Most experience escorts would have agreed to the shower. Even the cap worn backwards was probably a mistake. Most escorts try to dress as conservatively as possible, until they get to know the client.

 

But, a decent client would have overlooked these minor things, especially if Ripped is as goodlooking as he says. The client was in

a bad mood that didn't get any better. Leaving was the correct decision.