Jeremy Red

[Guest pacwriter]

Anyone have any info on an escort named Jeremy Red in the San Diego area? Saw his profile on the American Male site.

 

Thanks,

Pac

[Guest jc92103]

I hooked up with him via AOL. I did not post a review of him because of the Escort agency crap that I went through on this site. Anyway, he is very cute! He has a nice dick and is quite the anxious bottom. He seems to be only interested in getting fucked though. His hair is very red which does not come across on his pics. He has no car and asks to be picked up at his North Park Apt. The day I contacted him he seemed to be pretty desperate for cash and seemed to not have his shit together too much. He was a nice enough kid though. I have no interest in hiring him again. If you read the ads in Update, I hired Jay the other night and had a great time! Will be calling him again this weekend. If you need further details about Jeremy you can E-mail as I refuse to post any further reviews. Thanks

[+ deej]

OK, you've piqued my curiosity.

 

What "escort agency crap" did you go through that was the fault of this site? Last I heard, this site was not an agency.

 

Why do you refuse to post further reviews and how is that related to "escort agency crap" and how is it helpful to anyone?

 

You've left a lot unsaid.

[Guest jc92103]

How easily they forget. Some time ago a message was posted asking for details on a specific agency. I replied with my comments. My comments were very general and without much detail. The comments were well within the guidelines of the forum. I was quickly scorned and shut down by those who rule on this site. The only conclusion I could draw from this was the fact that the agency in question is an advertiser. This is a review site and a review is what I offered. I was very offended that I was not allowed to post further responses to the situation. I have as much of a right to submit an opinion as anyone on this site...even against an advertiser. Hooboy can do whatever he wants on his own site, however, accepting paid advertisements from those who are being reviewed is a conflict of interest. This puts all reviews related to the escorts employed by these agencies in question.

 

Why do I not submit further reviews? Why should I after the way I was treated when I did? Do you want an honest review or one that only states what you want to hear?

 

I have much to contribute to a forum such as this. It is the only place where guys can discuss this topic and not be scorned. In my 45 years I have employed hundreds of escorts from all corners of the world. What I have done and seen should be shared with those who seek the information. It seems as if we simply can not go against the populace on this site. If we do, we are labeled as liars or troublemakers. This site contains many "Hooboy Legends" as I call them. These are escorts who have achieved some sort of cult status. I would venture to guess that the majority of the guys who chat about them have never actually been with them! I would also go as far as stating that the majority of the reviews are of events that only occurred in the imaginations of those who submitted the review. Personally, I have been with many of these "Hooboy Legends" and can safely say that most of these guys fall very short of the review they have "earned." I must clarify that the term "Hooboy Legend" certainly does not imply that he made these guys up. It is a term that I made up to refer to these escorts who are discussed here. What would happen if I submitted a bad review of one of the "legends" discussed on this site? I would be labeled a liar and a fake instantly!

 

I very much enjoy and appreciate the discussion forums (except when that dcescortboykellygirl corrects peoples spelling) but the entire review thing is nonsense.

[HooBoy]

Earlier tonight I think this guy wrote me.

 

I wrote him back saying I couldn't locate reviews he claimed to have submitted.

 

We have NEVER not published a review because it was a negative on an advertiser.

 

My advertisers will attest to that.

 

If this is not the guy who wrote me, I apologize, but I stand by our policy.

 

There is NO QUID-PRO QUO.

 

HooBoy

Email: HooBoy@male4malescorts.com

[+ deej]

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinions. I see HooBoy has chimed in on the quid-pro-quo issue.

 

It is unfortunate that you choose not to participate in the review process, more so that you then choose to bash it. It's sort of like complaining about GW Bush when you didn't vote.

[Guest jc92103]

I did not write to HOOBOY. I have submitted past reviews under the screen name redcardaddy.

[+ deej]

A search shows one review from redcardaddy.

 

From that experience, you've decided the whole process is useless?

[Guest jc92103]

At what point did I suggest that my "reviews" were never posted? What I spoke of were my replies to the escort agency situation that were part of the message center. These replies were not released by whomever. The replies were within the guidelines of the message center rules. What happened to them? As for the reviews, I have submitted three, two have been pulled. I have submitted reviews of Tomas, Brian and Josh. All in San Diego. Only Tomas remains. Deej, you asked me a question and I answered it. You don't like my answer so you are now attempting to discredit me. If you don't want the answer, don't ask the question. You are only proving my point that those who "control" or wish that they "controlled" this site will not allow anyone to speak poorly of the beloved "hooboy legends." Aloow to pose this scenario to you; what would be said of me if I were to submit a negative review of Stef Lacoste? I'm trying trying to cause problems here, I enjoy this forum very much. I only want it to be fair for those who it is intended for...the client.

[Guest bottomboykk]

>What I spoke of

>were my replies to the

>escort agency situation that were

>part of the message center.

>These replies were not released

>by whomever. The replies were

>within the guidelines of the

>message center rules. What happened

>to them?

 

I don't know what happened to them, but I'm nearly 100% positive that they weren't deleted by a moderator. We discuss questionable posts, and leave them in the queue for Hooboy to make the final decision on.

 

So what happened to them? Well, a guess is that you hit the Preview button not the Post Message button, and then didn't do a final posting. It happens a lot, even with us moderators; it's an easy mistake to make. All I can say is that is the most likely scenario; only thing else I can think of is that it's one of those glitches that do happen on occasion with no explanation.

[Guest IM_Moore]

> This site contains many

>"Hooboy Legends" as I call

>them. These are escorts who

>have achieved some sort of

>cult status. I would venture

>to guess that the majority

>of the guys who chat

>about them have never actually

>been with them! I would

>also go as far as

>stating that the majority of

>the reviews are of events

>that only occurred in the

>imaginations of those who submitted

>the review.

 

I tend to agree with you in the above point. I too have been with some of these "super 'scorts" as I call them, only to find they are no better than the countless other escorts I have hired. In some cases they were quite less and I DID submit negative reviews and NOT a one appeared. It should be note that ALL of my other reviews HAVE appeared.

 

I also recall the thread you are speaking of relating to the San Diego escort agency that also runs ads on this site. While my experience with them was not the same as your negative one I felt you made a valid point and it should have been accepted.

 

HooBoy does sleep with the enemy at times. I guess it is a perk of owning the site. After all this is not consumer reports

[Guest jc92103]

>At what point did I suggest

>that my "reviews" were never

>posted? What I spoke of

>were my replies to the

>escort agency situation that were

>part of the message center.

>These replies were not released

>by whomever. The replies were

>within the guidelines of the

>message center rules. What happened

>to them? As for the

>reviews, I have submitted three,

>two have been pulled. I

>have submitted reviews of Tomas,

>Brian and Josh. All in

>San Diego. Only Tomas remains.

>Deej, you asked me a

>question and I answered it.

>You don't like my answer

>so you are now attempting

>to discredit me. If you

>don't want the answer, don't

>ask the question. You are

>only proving my point that

>those who "control" or wish

>that they "controlled" this site

>will not allow anyone to

>speak poorly of the beloved

>"hooboy legends." Aloow to pose

>this scenario to you; what

>would be said of me

>if I were to submit

>a negative review of Stef

>Lacoste? I'm trying trying to

>cause problems here, I enjoy

>this forum very much. I

>only want it to be

>fair for those who it

>is intended for...the client.

[Guest jc92103]

What I meant to say above was that I am NOT trying to cause problems. That was a typo.

[+ deej]

>At what point did I suggest

>that my "reviews" were never

>posted?

 

I'm sorry. Perhaps your use of the word REVIEW below is what I stumbled over:

 

This is a review site and a review is what I offered.

 

>What I spoke of

>were my replies to the

>escort agency situation that were

>part of the message center.

>These replies were not released

>by whomever.

 

Actually, I think you're talking about the whole thread that was wiped out (along with some reviews) when multitudes of posters complained that the agency in question seemed to be posting false reviews. That allegation has since been proved false, but there's no undelete on this message center. They're gone. Poof.

 

Moderators DO NOT censor on this board. (Although some days we'd like to. }>) The only messages that get deleted in the queue are duplicates or SPAM advertising for paid websites. ALL questionable messages are left in the queue for HooBoy's final decision.

 

>Deej, you asked me a

>question and I answered it.

>You don't like my answer

>so you are now attempting

>to discredit me. If you

>don't want the answer, don't

>ask the question. You are

>only proving my point that

>those who "control" or wish

>that they "controlled" this site

>will not allow anyone to

>speak poorly of the beloved

>"hooboy legends."

 

As I said earlier, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. (I didn't dream saying that did I?) I'm just trying to understand why you're so openly hostile towards a process you claim not to use.

 

As for this message center, you're certainly free to offer a dissenting opinion but you don't seem to think others are allowed to disagree with YOU. Don't you see the fallacy there? You can say whatever you want but nobody better disagree!

 

>Aloow to pose

>this scenario to you; what

>would be said of me

>if I were to submit

>a negative review of Stef

>Lacoste?

 

You can do that. Personally, I'd shrug and say "Stef had a bad day or a bad client" until a trend showed up. But here again, you seem to be under the impression that you can't do it just because someone might disagree.